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RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Gen Santa » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 03:04

what? 26 to 3 is actually a respectable score line especially since germany is considered weaker compared to espana, rusia, rumania... if they keep the score line close at home, they will have a chance in the repechage

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 03:08

35-3 at half time.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 03:54

Full time 66-15. Samoa didn't play great but showed far more intensity. Big lesson for the Germans to learn.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 03:56

Final score 66:15 for Samoa. Glad we scored two tries, but Samoa is simply a class or two above us. Especially after they already had 4 weeks together preparation time.
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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Sick » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 05:34

Gen Santa wrote:what? 26 to 3 is actually a respectable score line especially since germany is considered weaker compared to espana, rusia, rumania... if they keep the score line close at home, they will have a chance in the repechage


No. They don't.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Blurandski » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 09:21

Sick wrote:
Gen Santa wrote:what? 26 to 3 is actually a respectable score line especially since germany is considered weaker compared to espana, rusia, rumania... if they keep the score line close at home, they will have a chance in the repechage


No. They don't.


Kenya, HK, Germany all seem to be fairly even to me. Canada *should* qualifying easily.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Thomas » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 10:17

Just watched the first half replay and done some quick analysis, : Looks Painful, Samoa are still a Rugby Nation above and beyond European T2 teams no question.

Plenty of positives for Germany and haven't seen the 2nd Half but they need to think 4 years into the future. This was a good exposure to the higher levels of the game and where they should be aiming. Defensively shocking, too many missed tackles or not tackling low.

They held the Scrum well in my opinion and when they got ball in hand Germany were good but squandered at least 2 clear chances.

* 2nd Half, looks like their fitness is gone.. unlike the first half their Energy is spent regardless of conditions their S & C is severely lacking. I didn't know their coach was from Uruguay, explains some of the tactics.
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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby amz » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 10:58

Depends which EU T2, Romania defeated Samoa last November so did Georgia recently.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby dwpeate » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 11:00

Blurandski wrote:
Sick wrote:
Gen Santa wrote:what? 26 to 3 is actually a respectable score line especially since germany is considered weaker compared to espana, rusia, rumania... if they keep the score line close at home, they will have a chance in the repechage


No. They don't.


Kenya, HK, Germany all seem to be fairly even to me. Canada *should* qualifying easily.


This is undoubtedly the best time for all of these teams to be playing Canada. November looks to be very interesting indeed

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Thomas » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 11:30

That is true, but on current form last night, Samoa were concentrating.

The coach Lemoine who I just found out is in Europe is using old style tactics.. not sure if they suit the German style. Great first try love it, moving the ball. Still think they need to work on their base fitness for the repechage to take it seriously.


PS: Who hired the marching band, sounded like dying cats through the stream.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 15:21

http://en.espn.co.uk/scrum/rugby/match/299065.html

PROBABLY they think that Repechage is situated somewhere ... in Germany
+ they could NOT determine WHO played 12 10 3 19 for the HOSTS

Are NOT en.espn.co.uk a bit un-professional | arrogant ?

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Sick » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 16:59

Thomas wrote:Just watched the first half replay and done some quick analysis, : Looks Painful, Samoa are still a Rugby Nation above and beyond European T2 teams no question.

Plenty of positives for Germany and haven't seen the 2nd Half but they need to think 4 years into the future. This was a good exposure to the higher levels of the game and where they should be aiming. Defensively shocking, too many missed tackles or not tackling low.

They held the Scrum well in my opinion and when they got ball in hand Germany were good but squandered at least 2 clear chances.

* 2nd Half, looks like their fitness is gone.. unlike the first half their Energy is spent regardless of conditions their S & C is severely lacking. I didn't know their coach was from Uruguay, explains some of the tactics.



You mean Tier 3 european teams. Germany is T3.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Thomas » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 17:44

A matter of semantics, Samoa where focused, a couple of debatable calls in the first half but TMO seem on the pulse, either way Samoa is still a strong Rugby Nation.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Sick » Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 20:07

Thomas wrote:A matter of semantics, Samoa where focused, a couple of debatable calls in the first half but TMO seem on the pulse, either way Samoa is still a strong Rugby Nation.



Nobody in doubt about that. Just about their oposition.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Raven » Thu, 05 Jul 2018, 21:12

Amazing how the heat of this topic is now gone after the bulky result in Samoa... haha.

Is there any chance H. Schulte shows up this time? might be more of a game for C.W-Dow or even Carlos Soteras too... I like Liebig, but not as a center.

Still no news on why Poppmeier isn´t called for these play offs.

I know 3 guys won´t make a massive difference, but could add a bit of depth to a squad of 23 that feels the changes within a game.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby qwerty » Thu, 05 Jul 2018, 23:31

I'm not sure what people were expecting. Samoa, despite its problems, is one of the best T2 teams, Germany isn't even a full T2 side.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Thomas » Sun, 08 Jul 2018, 11:02

I know Samoa will win this match, stands to reason but I am hoping that Germany will provide a stronger squad and provide a competitive match. it seems many people have gone off topic even on other sites but lets be realistic is a big learning curve for Germany and need to take their chances.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Canalina » Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 04:27

Neither a poster (=affiche, billboard) for this match? I can't find it on the web. This should be the peak of the german rugby history, or something near it

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Thomas » Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 09:50

There are a couple of things on the German website: they are promoting it, but you are right I haven't seen a poster either

http://www.rugby-verband.de/

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 21:00

Word on the street is that this is sold out?

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 12 Jul 2018, 08:11

TheStroBro wrote:Word on the street is that this is sold out?


Word on google translate is that it sucks translating German. The seats are outsold, but plenty of space in the stands.
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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 13 Jul 2018, 19:44

German lineup against Samoa tomorrow.

1 Julius Nostadt
2 Mark Fairhurst
3 Samy Füchsel
4 Eric Marks
5 Timo Vollenkemper
6 Sebastian Ferreira
7 Jaco Otto
8 Jarrid Els
9 Sean Armstrong
10 Hagen Schulte
11 Marcel Coetzee
12 Raynor Parkinson
13 Mathieu Ducau
14 Rafael Pyrasch
15 Christopher Hilsenbeck
16 Mika Tyumenev
17 Luke Dyckhoff
18 Jörn Schröder
19 Mathias Schösser
20 Marcel Henn
21 Tim Menzel
22 Nikolai Klewinghaus
23 Florian Wehrspann

Kickoff 4pm Live-Stream World Rugby (Facebook and internet page) in Germany DAZN.
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 13 Jul 2018, 19:47

Samoa team to play Germany:
Starting XV:
1. Logovii Mulipola
2. Motu Matu'u
3. Paul Alo-Emile
4. Joe Tekori
5. Brandon Nansen
6. Tupa'i Chris Vui (c)
7. Jack Lam
8. Ofisa Treviranus
9. Melani Matavao
10. Patrick Fa'apale
11. Sinoti Sinoti
12. Lemalu Tusi Pisi
13. Paul Perez
14. Ed Fidow
15. Ah See Tuala

Bench:
16. Seilala Lam
17. Jordan Lay
18. Viliamu Afatia
19. Mat Luamanu
20. TJ Ioane
21. Ionatana Tino
22. Rodney Iona
23. Alofa Alofa
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby Neptune » Fri, 13 Jul 2018, 20:24

All the best to Germany as they face the Pacific Islanders tommorrow. Looks like an up hill task, but anything can happen within the grid in 80 minutes. Win or Loss, the rugby world will still be proud of German rugby's growth in the past 5 years. :)

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Re: RWCQ Europe/Oceania Play Off

Postby argie » Sat, 14 Jul 2018, 11:50

Canalina wrote:Neither a poster (=affiche, billboard) for this match? I can't find it on the web. This should be the peak of the german rugby history, or something near it

Only this unofficial banner.
https://twitter.com/jankonie/status/1017317694654287873
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And this other.
https://twitter.com/DAZN_DE/status/1014503680551325696
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