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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 06:43

Copied here for reference, not sure how many teams progress to the next stage, just the winner?

Canalina wrote:Sierra Leone and Togo forfeited from Regional 7s tournament in Ivory Coast; 8 teams confirmed, included the almost debutant Guinea

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 09:02

It looks like we should not hope for much success for the Guinea-Conakry team in the Africa Regional 7s. Even one win could be a major triumph over adversity...

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L'équipe nationale de rugby à 7 de la Guinée par manque de terrain est en train de nettoyé la plage de ratoma en plus sous une forte pluie pour préparer le tournoi régional de rugby qui aura lieu en côte d'Ivoire du 15 au 16 septembre. C'est ça les réalités du sports Guinéen.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 10:02

All that plastic from the beaches of almost all the Third World (and partially from those of the First World) finishes in the water. We are raping the oceans

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Figaro » Tue, 04 Sep 2018, 11:17

Armchair Fan wrote:My concern is rather that if England needs a good result in Paris Sevens to be Top 4 in Sevens World Series and plays against Wales or Scotland... will the latter players tackle and run as if nothing was at stake? Will they risk their chances of going to the Olympics?


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NedRugby wrote:Makes me wonder whether you've met any Welsh or Scottish people. There is nothing they like better than beating England, and they probably think any GB 7s team would be 90% English anyway.


^^This, though actually the more high profile players in 2012 were Welsh and Scottish.

I know a lot of Welsh & Scottish (not to mention Northern Irish) people (I'm definitely one of them) that are very unhappy about GB entering a team at all. That's why there will not be a GB football team again.

I do agree though that it's unfair if any country gets to enter multiple teams to a competition, so if GB are entering they shouldn't get two teams.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Mon, 10 Sep 2018, 12:17

Resume of next intense weeks. Anyway I believe that just the african and asian tournaments are, indirectly, part of the Olympic Qualifying path. North America and Oceania have not a second category where the teams risk to be relegated, so all their nations are already sure to have the right to play in next year's olympic qualifying

14/15 september: ASIA 7s first stage (men and women) in Hong Kong
M: Japan, Sri Lanka, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Philippines, Malaysia
W: Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Thailand, Kazakhstan, China, Singapore, Sri Lanka

15/16 september: AFRICA regional 7s (men) in Abidjan, Ivory Coast
M: Algerie, Benin, Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast, Guinea, Mali, Niger [Sierra Leone and Togo forfaited]

22/23 september: NORTH AMERICA 7s (men and women) in St.James, Barbados
M: Mexico, Guadeloupe, Bermuda, T&Caicos, T&Tobago, S.Lucia, Cayman, S.Vincent & G., Jamaica, British Virgin Is., Guyana, Curacao, Barbados, Dominican Rep.
W: Mexico, Barbados, Guyana, S.Lucia, Jamaica, Curacao, T&Tobago, Bahamas, Dominican Rep., Bermuda

29/30 september: ASIA 7s second stage (men and women) in Incheon, South Korea
M, W: as stage one

29/30 september: AFRICA regional 7s (men) in Bujumbura ?, Burundi
M: Burundi, Congo Brazz., Congo Kins., Gabon, Lesotho, Malawi, Namibia, Rwanda, Swaziland

13/14 october: ASIA 7s final stage (men and women) in Colombo, Sri Lanka
M, W: as stage one

9/10 november: OCEANIA 7s (men and women) in Suva, Fiji
M: Australia, Cook, Fiji, Nauru, New Caledonia, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, Samoa, Niue, Solomon, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu
W: Australia, Cook, Fiji, Nauru, New Caledonia, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, Samoa

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Mon, 10 Sep 2018, 20:17

Canalina wrote:Resume of next intense weeks. Anyway I believe that just the african and asian tournaments are, indirectly, part of the Olympic Qualifying path. North America and Oceania have not a second category where the teams risk to be relegated, so all their nations are already sure to have the right to play in next year's olympic qualifying


15/16 september: AFRICA regional 7s (men) in Abidjan, Ivory Coast
M: Algerie, Benin, Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast, Guinea, Mali, Niger [Sierra Leone and Togo forfaited]

+ Nigeria

29/30 september: AFRICA regional 7s (men) in Bujumbura ?, Burundi
M: Burundi, Congo Brazz., Congo Kins., Gabon, Lesotho, Malawi, Namibia, Rwanda, Swaziland

It appears that Namibia and Swaziland have renounced

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 11:32

There is some sort of coverage from Abidjan, but only a video that is more of a series of stills!

https://www.facebook.com/Federation-Ivo ... 849091574/

Looks like CIV had an easy win first game against Guinea-Conakry

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 14:25

Some results

Côte d'Ivoire 26 - 0 Guinea
Burkina Faso 12 - 0 Mali
Nigeria 24 - 0 Niger
Algeria 17 - 7 Benin
Côte d'Ivoire 22 - 05 Mali
Burkina Faso 40 - 5 Guinea
Nigeria 31 - 00 Bénin
Algeria 17-00 Niger
Côte d'Ivoire 19 - 7 Burkina Faso
Nigeria 12 - 0 Algeria

Best source today is https://www.facebook.com/F%C3%A9d%C3%A9 ... 046304615/

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 15 Sep 2018, 18:11

Well naturally we have some different versions of the final scores...

CI-Guinée : 26-00
Burkina Faso -Mali : 12-00
Nigeria -Niger : 26-00
Algeria -Benin : 17-07

CI -Mali :20-05
Burkina Faso -Guinée : 40-05
Nigeria -Benin : 36-00
Algeria -Niger : 15-00

CI-Burkina :19-07
Mali -Guinée 15-05
Nigeria -Algeria :10-00
Bénin -Niger :07-19


Pool A

1st Ivory Coast: 9 points
2nd: Burkina Faso: 7 points
3rd: Mali: 5 points
4th: Guinea: 3 points

Pool B

1st Nigeria: 9 points
2nd Algeria: 7 points
3rd Niger: 5 points
4th Benin: 3 points

Cup Semi-Finals
Côte d’Ivoire v Algeria
Nigeria - Burkina Faso

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 16 Sep 2018, 12:37

Côte d’Ivoire beat Algeria either 12 - 7 or 10 - 7 (whether that was a score or a result...?)

Nigeria beat Burkina Faso 17 - 7

So the final is Côte d’Ivoire v Nigeria

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 16 Sep 2018, 14:41

7th / 8th: Benin 24 - 0 Guinea
5th / 6th: Mali beat Niger score unknown
3rd / 4th: Burkina Faso beat Algeria score unknown
Final: Côte d’Ivoire beat Nigeria sudden death in extra time ( 17 - 17 at full time, CIV came back from 2 tries down )

Côte d’Ivoire winners, I presume they are the only ones to progress from this zone to the next stage.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 16 Sep 2018, 16:54

From Rugby Afrique

Well done Cote d'Ivoire Federation Ivoirienne de Rugby, Regional Sevens Champions and promoted to next year's Olympic Qualifier tournament!


Latest info suggests now 4 teams only in the southern feeder competition with Gabon, Malawi and Rwanda the latest opt outs.

Ce tournoi s'inscrit dans le cadre des préparatifs pour le Tournoi régional du rugby à 7 qui se déroulera à Bujumbura les 29 et 30 Septembre prochain entre les équipes nationales du Burundi, du Lesotho, du Congo Brazza et de la RDC.

https://www.africa-newsroom.com/press/r ... -7?lang=fr

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 11:29

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:7th / 8th: Benin 24 - 0 Guinea
5th / 6th: Mali beat Niger score unknown
3rd / 4th: Burkina Faso beat Algeria score unknown
Final: Côte d’Ivoire beat Nigeria sudden death in extra time ( 17 - 17 at full time, CIV came back from 2 tries down )

Côte d’Ivoire winners, I presume they are the only ones to progress from this zone to the next stage.


A bit of crowd, like 200-250 people
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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 11:46

Not a big crowd but very noisy and judging by the cheers when Burkina Faso were playing not just Ivoirien fans.

All results now up on the Rugby Afrique site at http://www.rugbyafrique.com/regional-se ... 8/?lang=fr

I'm glad that Guinea scored a couple of tries despite losing every game.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 17:04

ScrumQueens digged the details of the Olympic women's qualifications, even if I don't know which is the original source. I suppose the men's ones are the same.
If so, the 12 teams in Tokyo will be

- Japan (hosting nation)
- the best 4 teams of the World Series (the 2018/19 edition, I suppose)
- the 6 winners of the six continental championships 2019
- the winner of the repechage twelve-teams-tournament involving the second and third placed of those six continental championships

A clear path. If you are not part of the World Series you have to finish on the podium of your continental championship, to keep hopes. The only "bug" is: where are the Trophy's, Conference One's and Conference Two's nations in this path? Are they already out?

http://www.scrumqueens.com/news/2020-ol ... -confirmed

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Blurandski » Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 17:34

Canalina wrote:ScrumQueens digged the details of the Olympic women's qualifications, even if I don't know which is the original source. I suppose the men's ones are the same.
If so, the 12 teams in Tokyo will be

- Japan (hosting nation)
- the best 4 teams of the World Series (the 2018/19 edition, I suppose)
- the 6 winners of the six continental championships 2019
- the winner of the repechage twelve-teams-tournament involving the second and third placed of those six continental championships

A clear path. If you are not part of the World Series you have to finish on the podium of your continental championship, to keep hopes. The only "bug" is: where are the Trophy's, Conference One's and Conference Two's nations in this path? Are they already out?

http://www.scrumqueens.com/news/2020-ol ... -confirmed


I could see Rugby Europe repeating what they did last time, where only 2nd in the Grand Prix goes straight to the Repechage, and most of the rest of the Grand Prix alongside top 3 in Trophy, and the winner of C1 going to a tournament to allocate the second place. If that is the case then no-one's out yet.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 18:11

With Ireland in GPS is there any reason to organise a European repechage?

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby sk 88 » Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 19:38

Cynic!

Probably fair tho ...

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby victorsra » Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 20:00

WR has confirmed the Olympics Qualy: https://www.worldrugby.org/sevens-series/news/364051

But dates are still missing for 2019 continental series/tournaments.

It is just like for 2016:

- Host country
- 4 best teams of the 2018-19 SWS (this means in June we'll know 4 qualified teams;
- After the SWS, there will be the 6 continental qualifiers from June to December in 2019, 1 place for each continent. I believe by November we'll know all as South America (that was the last one to organize a tournament for 2016) will now be the first one, with a tournament in June 2019 (TBA). This means:
- 1 global repechage tournament in June 2020;
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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Sables4EVA » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 06:13

Canalina wrote:
Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:7th / 8th: Benin 24 - 0 Guinea
5th / 6th: Mali beat Niger score unknown
3rd / 4th: Burkina Faso beat Algeria score unknown
Final: Côte d’Ivoire beat Nigeria sudden death in extra time ( 17 - 17 at full time, CIV came back from 2 tries down )

Côte d’Ivoire winners, I presume they are the only ones to progress from this zone to the next stage.


A bit of crowd, like 200-250 people
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Taken in context this is a great crowd for a low tier country in Africa, actually encouraging numbers.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 07:43

victorsra wrote:WR has confirmed the Olympics Qualy: https://www.worldrugby.org/sevens-series/news/364051

But dates are still missing for 2019 continental series/tournaments.

It is just like for 2016:

- Host country
- 4 best teams of the 2018-19 SWS (this means in June we'll know 4 qualified teams;
- After the SWS, there will be the 6 continental qualifiers from June to December in 2019, 1 place for each continent. I believe by November we'll know all as South America (that was the last one to organize a tournament for 2016) will now be the first one, with a tournament in June 2019 (TBA). This means:
- 1 global repechage tournament in June 2020;


Once again an extremely tough road for European teams, I doubt we will ever see somebody not from Europe or Oceania taking the 12th spot. But well with just 12 teams, and the absolute need of global representation in the Olympic games. That's the way it is.

Based on the ranking from the W7S 17/18 (if not enough teams than regional series) it would be:

Africa: South Africa, Kenya
Europe: Britain
Oceania: Fiji, New Zealand, Australia, Samoa
Americas: USA, Argentina
Asia: Japan, Hong Kong
Repechage: 1 out of: Spain, France, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Papua New Guinea, Cook Islands, Canada, Jamaica, Chile, Uruguay, South Korea, Sri Lanka
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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby rey200 » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 08:39

What about Canada? The way you calculated the outcome they actually should be favorite for the 12th place ;)

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 08:47

rey200 wrote:What about Canada? The way you calculated the outcome they actually should be favorite for the 12th place ;)


My money is on Spain/France/Ireland/Germany/Russia ;-)
But yeah with basically all good Oceania teams already qualified in my scenario (I doubt 3 Oceania teams will make the top4 in 2018/19 again), Canada could also be a team to consider...
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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 08:56

Let's see first if Canadian 7s doesn't implode.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby rey200 » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 08:57

Well, that's the problem with basing predictions on past results :)

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