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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Rumpelstilzchen » Fri, 12 Jul 2019, 15:04

Day 2 will start at 11:00.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Sat, 13 Jul 2019, 18:09

Tomorrow's quarterfinals in Colomiers, even if I have some doubt: Italy should be placed ahead of Germany, so I think Italy and Germany should be switched (Ireland v Italy, England v Germany)

Edit: no, I see now in the Flidta Risxva previous page' scheme that there are pre-defined slots also for the teams second placed in the pools. I thought it was counted a sort of internal ranking between the three teams second placed but I was wrong. So the Rugby Europe draw here below is correct

To note the anticipated elimination of Russia

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 09:42

Big failure by Spain in the quarters against Portugal. Congrats to our neighbors.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 10:33

ALREADY OUT of TOKYO 2020
YESTERDAY: HUN UKR LTH RUS
THIS MORNING: GEO SPN ITA GER

FOUR REMAIN: FRA v IRE, POR v ENG
WINNER gets DIRECT PASS, 2ND & 3RD go to REPS, 4TH OUT

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Thomas » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 13:52

PORTUGAL 12-29 ENGLAND

FRANCE 19-12 IRELAND

3rd Place

Portugal v Irelan

Final

France v England

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 15:01

Do we know if at the Olympics the GB team would play as a pure English select or as a true British team?

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Thomas » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 15:09

Canalina wrote:Do we know if at the Olympics the GB team would play as a pure English select or as a true British team?


It should be a British team like last time. However how many from the other home nations are selected is the question.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 15:43

Thank you; I just wanted to know if they are open to calling welsh and scottish players

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Thomas » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 16:08

Ireland through to the repechage Beat Portugal 26-10

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Neptune » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 17:59

Thomas wrote:Ireland through to the repechage Beat Portugal 26-10


Which team won the final between England and France?

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Sun, 14 Jul 2019, 18:08

England: 31-7 in the final game, I think

Our italian blog's resume (you have to scroll a bit to read the final rankings)
http://www.rugby.it/news/2019/07/14/add ... -al-cielo/

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Edgar » Thu, 22 Aug 2019, 09:36

Further evidence NZ just isn't taking 7s very seriously any more? Australia ceased to do so a long time ago, having dominated the abbreviated version with Fiji in the pre-World Cup era, winning 4 of the first 10 Hong Kong finals. But they have not won again in over 30 years, nor even made the final since 1994, while Fiji has won the last 5 titles straight. & if this attitude is shared by other major playing nations, might that place the sport's continued involvement at the Olympics in jeopardy? Inclusion in the Olympic program has resulted in government funding for rugby in many parts of the globe where it is still struggling to get off the ground. China is a notable example, to say nothing of the huge boost Olympic success has given the nation of Fiji. Hopefully we will see Samoa qualify for Tokyo and do well. & while I agree XVs must remain the priority, and do not follow 7s too closely myself, I would've thought Olympic gold was the second biggest prize in the sport, behind winning the World Cup. Surely it merits the strongest teams possible, which is obviously what the fans want to see.

WELLINGTON, Aug 22 (Reuters) - New Zealand's team bidding for a rugby sevens gold medal at next year's Tokyo Olympics will not include any All Blacks after several approached declined to be involved.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rugby-blacks ... 30284.html

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Thomas » Thu, 22 Aug 2019, 10:05

Edgar wrote:Further evidence NZ just isn't taking 7s very seriously any more? Australia ceased to do so a long time ago, having dominated the abbreviated version with Fiji in the pre-World Cup era, winning 4 of the first 10 Hong Kong finals. But they have not won again in over 30 years, nor even made the final since 1994, while Fiji has won the last 5 titles straight. & if this attitude is shared by other major playing nations, might that place the sport's continued involvement at the Olympics in jeopardy? Inclusion in the Olympic program has resulted in government funding for rugby in many parts of the globe where it is still struggling to get off the ground. China is a notable example, to say nothing of the huge boost Olympic success has given the nation of Fiji. Hopefully we will see Samoa qualify for Tokyo and do well. & while I agree XVs must remain the priority, and do not follow 7s too closely myself, I would've thought Olympic gold was the second biggest prize in the sport, behind winning the World Cup. Surely it merits the strongest teams possible, which is obviously what the fans want to see.

WELLINGTON, Aug 22 (Reuters) - New Zealand's team bidding for a rugby sevens gold medal at next year's Tokyo Olympics will not include any All Blacks after several approached declined to be involved.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rugby-blacks ... 30284.html


All very cultural in my opinion. Speaking to countries were 7's is more dominant they see Olympic glory as the ultimate prize irrespective of the sport. I think is unique where Football the world cup is more dominant. in terms of Rugby Union if you grew with the world cup then you see that as the bigger prize.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 22 Aug 2019, 10:08

Edgar wrote:Further evidence NZ just isn't taking 7s very seriously any more? Australia ceased to do so a long time ago, having dominated the abbreviated version with Fiji in the pre-World Cup era, winning 4 of the first 10 Hong Kong finals. But they have not won again in over 30 years, nor even made the final since 1994, while Fiji has won the last 5 titles straight. & if this attitude is shared by other major playing nations, might that place the sport's continued involvement at the Olympics in jeopardy? Inclusion in the Olympic program has resulted in government funding for rugby in many parts of the globe where it is still struggling to get off the ground. China is a notable example, to say nothing of the huge boost Olympic success has given the nation of Fiji. Hopefully we will see Samoa qualify for Tokyo and do well. & while I agree XVs must remain the priority, and do not follow 7s too closely myself, I would've thought Olympic gold was the second biggest prize in the sport, behind winning the World Cup. Surely it merits the strongest teams possible, which is obviously what the fans want to see.

WELLINGTON, Aug 22 (Reuters) - New Zealand's team bidding for a rugby sevens gold medal at next year's Tokyo Olympics will not include any All Blacks after several approached declined to be involved.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rugby-blacks ... 30284.html


I doubt anybody took 7s serious in its true meaning, before it became part of the Olympic games. Apart from that, the opposite will be the case. The biggest problem is the bottle-neck, the HK Qualifier is, if they would have another solution like a tier2 WS with 2 or more set promotion places, the sport will grow. It doesn't matter if a nation like NZ is still as good as before (at least from a non-Kiwi-view). What does matter is how many nations play it competitive overall, and that's a growing number. If you watched Germany win the European championship this year, you probably also saw, that the overall level there is rising a lot. So a small dip at the top combined, with being the only yearly rugby competition which is not a closed shop, will lead to growth.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 24 Aug 2019, 19:30

I have said already that I personally disagree with the unified British team, but it's their choice.

Anyway, if that does happen, there will be extra spots in the Sevens World Series for tier 2 teams.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby victorsra » Sat, 24 Aug 2019, 19:33

What do you mean by "their choice"? IOC only allows Great Britain in the Olympics.
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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 24 Aug 2019, 19:40

I'm referring to the Sevens World Series.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Sat, 04 Jan 2020, 22:50

A quite nice one-minute presentation of the game of Rugby 7s, by the Tokyo 2020 committee


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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby victorsra » Tue, 17 Mar 2020, 16:55

https://www.olympic.org/news/communique ... tokyo-2020

Tokyo 2020 still in the same dates. But the Qualy Tournament will probably be affected.

With this, the last spots in the Olympics might be decided by Rankings. In the case of rugby sevens, I guess they'll award the spots to France in ther men's tournament and France + Russia in the women's tournaments, if they use the 2019-20 SWS standings...

Or, if they use 2018-19 standings, it would be Samoa in the men's tournament, France and Russia in the women's.

If Russia is excluded, it would be Spain (2019-20 season) or Ireland (2018-19 season).
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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby victorsra » Tue, 17 Mar 2020, 17:30

In fact it looks like the Qualy will be cancelled indeed.
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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Wed, 18 Mar 2020, 05:44

My strong feeling is that the Games will be postponed by a year. Yesterday an expert here in Italy wrote: "considering that also after you have reached zero cases you should have to wait (according to the OMS recommendations) around other 30 days before declaring the virus defeated, we will be very very lucky if we will found us out of this by middle of august".
This means that probably the italian athletes can't be able to participate to the Olympics; and that even if they can they would arrive in Japan with a low or very low level of training. This regards specially the team sports, of course

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby thatrugbyguy » Thu, 19 Mar 2020, 13:26

Delaying a year is not a bad option.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Canalina » Fri, 20 Mar 2020, 06:12

In Japan they have just 715 active cases (and with a light decrement, yesterday they were 719); in the surrounding China, Korea and Russia the epidemic seems more or less under control. So the geographical area of the Olympics is relatively safe. But most of the rest of the World is in high emergency. All the things seem saying that the Games will be postponed

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Fri, 20 Mar 2020, 07:58

Everything that should have been this year should just be pushed back to next year.

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Re: 2020 Olympic Games 7s

Postby gambass » Fri, 20 Mar 2020, 13:52

victorsra wrote:https://www.olympic.org/news/communique-from-the-international-olympic-committee-ioc-regarding-the-olympic-games-tokyo-2020

Tokyo 2020 still in the same dates. But the Qualy Tournament will probably be affected.

With this, the last spots in the Olympics might be decided by Rankings. In the case of rugby sevens, I guess they'll award the spots to France in ther men's tournament and France + Russia in the women's tournaments, if they use the 2019-20 SWS standings...

Or, if they use 2018-19 standings, it would be Samoa in the men's tournament, France and Russia in the women's.

If Russia is excluded, it would be Spain (2019-20 season) or Ireland (2018-19 season).


According to today's Midi Olympique, it's exactly what World Rugby has in mind.

Samoa will love it...

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