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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Lobo » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 21:49

Is it possible to see the games live? Thanks.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 21:51

Everything is on World Rugby YouTube channel
https://youtu.be/xZBYY1HUjVU

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Lobo » Fri, 31 Aug 2018, 17:13

Armchair Fan wrote:Everything is on World Rugby YouTube channel
https://youtu.be/xZBYY1HUjVU


Thank you very much!

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby 4N » Fri, 31 Aug 2018, 20:21

Stefan Iancu for Romania is an excellent prospect. He will probably play 10 years for the Oaks and in France.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby amz » Fri, 31 Aug 2018, 21:53

Oaks for Samoa, many players seem to be rested and all back three is out of position Popoaia (FB-> WG), Leica (CT-> FB, really odd choice), Craciun (FB->WG). Hopefully Ioana will come back from injury on WG for HK match.

Pasalan and Murariu are both flankers not locks, all 18 yo halves, Iliuta moved to CT from WG when he made his best matches out wide. I am confused tbh and I don't expect positives from this game.

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4N wrote:Stefan Iancu for Romania is an excellent prospect. He will probably play 10 years for the Oaks and in France.


There are some good prospects and Iancu isn't in top 5 ... I think Hartig (if he fancy a move at hooker), Neculau, Pasalan, Ser, Leica, Sarbu are some good prospects. Also 2-3 good ones among the injured players (Visan, Vulturar, Ballok, Gealapu, Staicu). the 18 yo guys are too early to have a grounded opinion. Among them I quite liked Grigore at SH. He wasn't the quickest but he made some good decisions vs Namibia.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby 4N » Fri, 31 Aug 2018, 22:10

I say Iancu will get 50+ senior caps if he stays healthy. Beast.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 11:45

Another last-minute defeat for Canada, still way above my expectations in this tournament. Uruguay 27-23 Canada

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 12:59

Namibia is beating Hong Kong the way I would have expected from Samoa in Day 1, including their shirts...

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 15:42

Has Romania v Samoa the very same ref as Portugal v Canada? What a utter disgrace, lots of high and no arm tackles. FT 31-17, Samoa wins but still doesn't convince.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 16:08

Help me - POOR OLD GUY - to understand, why
WR does NOT show REF in their LIVE game sheets :?:

https://www.worldrugby.org/match/26377 etc etc etc

Not important :?:
Does not know :?:
Ashamed for some of them :?:
To test fans' patience :?:
Missed by hired developer and nobody can insert from their PRO staff :?:

Further suggestions are welcome

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 17:48

Fiji beats Portugal, so we're close to Pacific Islands final.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby BigG » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 18:08

Armchair Fan wrote:Fiji beats Portugal, so we're close to Pacific Islands final.


I would very much oppose that idea. I believe Namibia is the best team of the tournament.

It would be nice to see another African team at U20 WC 2019.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 01 Sep 2018, 19:03

Namibia looked good but I fear schedule doesn't play in their favour as Samoa will be better prepared. Let's see.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby amz » Sun, 02 Sep 2018, 16:09

BigG wrote:
Armchair Fan wrote:Fiji beats Portugal, so we're close to Pacific Islands final.


I would very much oppose that idea. I believe Namibia is the best team of the tournament.

It would be nice to see another African team at U20 WC 2019.


I think it will be between Fiji and Namibia. The Africans have two excellent players at 10 and 15

Romania played better and despite the defeat there were positives in this match

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 08:33

Yes we are not that bad, but the boys need more competition and real games. Few of those guys can play pro without problems.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby iul » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 10:36

Now imagine if SuperLiga would have followed football's example and mandated each club has to have a couple of U20s on the pitch.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby amz » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 10:48

iul wrote:Now imagine if SuperLiga would have followed football's example and mandated each club has to have a couple of U20s on the pitch.


And where is football now? Cluj was kicked out of European Cup by a Luxembourg team of amateurs. The other team were crap as well. :roll:

I think your issue is you don't follow rugby in fact. Most of the guys who are 20 (Neculau, Pasalan, Tala, Iliuta, Iancu, Hartig) played with their club teams in SuperLiga or DNS. The issue is with 1999/2000 kids who are still in junior clubs or play less with senior teams so the issue is the lack of a better U18-U20 local competition and not the lack of chances with senior clubs for the young U20 players.

On the other hand, some U20 played in King's Cup just before the tournament and got injured e.g. Visan which meant we have only one specialized lock in the team.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby BigG » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 11:03

Bogdan_DC wrote:Yes we are not that bad, but the boys need more competition and real games. Few of those guys can play pro without problems.


Physical strength is there. Other components? I do not want to analyze one by one.
Let me touch such an important part of game as defense. Sorry, but I think Romanian team has no idea what it is about, especially when it comes to group effort.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby iul » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 11:47

amz wrote:
iul wrote:Now imagine if SuperLiga would have followed football's example and mandated each club has to have a couple of U20s on the pitch.


And where is football now? Cluj was kicked out of European Cup by a Luxembourg team of amateurs. The other team were crap as well. :roll:

I think your issue is you don't follow rugby in fact. Most of the guys who are 20 (Neculau, Pasalan, Tala, Iliuta, Iancu, Hartig) played with their club teams in SuperLiga or DNS. The issue is with 1999/2000 kids who are still in junior clubs or play less with senior teams so the issue is the lack of a better U18-U20 local competition and not the lack of chances with senior clubs for the young U20 players.

On the other hand, some U20 played in King's Cup just before the tournament and got injured e.g. Visan which meant we have only one specialized lock in the team.

Well if you're happy with how our junior production line is working it's all good then. I mean, we do have a 3 team U20 championship. :roll:

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 12:07

BigG wrote:
Bogdan_DC wrote:Yes we are not that bad, but the boys need more competition and real games. Few of those guys can play pro without problems.


Physical strength is there. Other components? I do not want to analyze one by one.
Let me touch such an important part of game as defense. Sorry, but I think Romanian team has no idea what it is about, especially when it comes to group effort.


You are damn right. But this is the result of a completely lack of competition on juniors championships. They just don't have enough rugby under their belt, they discover new situations in an international game...that is very bad. What i 'm saying is that if you take some good individuals like Hartig or Ser, Pasalan, Neculau and insert them in a pro environment they could raise their level to the task.
But yes, the team looks awful in key moments like defense, passing or even line outs. I was a lock myself and i cant understand how they make all that bullshit moves in line out when they have players like Iancu over 2m tall...

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby BigG » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 14:10

You are damn right. But this is the result of a completely lack of competition on juniors championships. They just don't have enough rugby under their belt, they discover new situations in an international game...that is very bad. What i 'm saying is that if you take some good individuals like Hartig or Ser, Pasalan, Neculau and insert them in a pro environment they could raise their level to the task.
But yes, the team looks awful in key moments like defense, passing or even line outs. I was a lock myself and i cant understand how they make all that bullshit moves in line out when they have players like Iancu over 2m tall...[/quote]

Agree that lack of experience for certain players matters. Meanwhile in my personal opinion RRF absence of a sound politics towards junior teams. Romania should have much better U20 and U18 team. I believe there are enough talented guys and coaches. Obviously something is going wrong.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 15:38

This was the case few years ago...now we are deeper in the hole. Now it is a matter of surviving. Dream of a few posters over here is closer than never :). I am still optimistic that with some skill we can create a very good squad for 2023 but FRR looks like they are lost.

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 17:15

Uruguay defeated Canada on extra time. :)

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Tobar » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 17:44

amz wrote:
iul wrote:Now imagine if SuperLiga would have followed football's example and mandated each club has to have a couple of U20s on the pitch.


And where is football now? Cluj was kicked out of European Cup by a Luxembourg team of amateurs. The other team were crap as well. :roll:

I think your issue is you don't follow rugby in fact. Most of the guys who are 20 (Neculau, Pasalan, Tala, Iliuta, Iancu, Hartig) played with their club teams in SuperLiga or DNS. The issue is with 1999/2000 kids who are still in junior clubs or play less with senior teams so the issue is the lack of a better U18-U20 local competition and not the lack of chances with senior clubs for the young U20 players.

On the other hand, some U20 played in King's Cup just before the tournament and got injured e.g. Visan which meant we have only one specialized lock in the team.


Wouldn’t Superliga u20 leagues increase the youth competition?

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Re: World Rugby U20 Trophy

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 18:07

First you need players and money. It could be clearly counterproductive to force clubs already struggling financially and socially to build U20 teams that will travel all around the country.

The effort right now must be done on captation way before U20 while FRR does its best to sustain some form with what it currently has, but rugby finds itself with other struggles of Romanian sport than have already been dealt previously on this forum.

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