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Repechege Battle 2018

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Raven » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 12:59

Neptune wrote:WR should come up with a schedule early enough, so that teams also prepare themselves psychologically. But based on the rankings, if things remain as is, ceteris paribas, we should see 1st play 4th, then 2nd play 3rd, which in this case would be Canada vs Germany then Kenya vs Hong Kong.

A plus on WR's side is putting the game on a neutral venue, unlike Rugby Afrique who always give Namibia their toughest games in Windhoek, year in year out.


For this type of tournament and the teams involved it´s a matter of easier logistics with everybody flying in to one place and playing 3 weeks in a row. And (by choosing France) they went for a well prepared venue, used to international events like these and they will for sure have neutral fans showing up, so there will for sure be some sort of return for the host or at least will break even.

I insist, I like the format, teams involved and everything surrounding this Repechage. Now only hope that the team I support qualifies! :lol:

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Neptune » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 13:03

Raven wrote:
Neptune wrote:WR should come up with a schedule early enough, so that teams also prepare themselves psychologically. But based on the rankings, if things remain as is, ceteris paribas, we should see 1st play 4th, then 2nd play 3rd, which in this case would be Canada vs Germany then Kenya vs Hong Kong.

A plus on WR's side is putting the game on a neutral venue, unlike Rugby Afrique who always give Namibia their toughest games in Windhoek, year in year out.


For this type of tournament and the teams involved it´s a matter of easier logistics with everybody flying in to one place and playing 3 weeks in a row. And (by choosing France) they went for a well prepared venue, used to international events like these and they will for sure have neutral fans showing up, so there will for sure be some sort of return for the host or at least will break even.

I insist, I like the format, teams involved and everything surrounding this Repechage. Now only hope that the team I support qualifies! :lol:


Which team is that? Can you state your intentions early enough, You are a fence sitter Raven. :lol: :P

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby qwerty » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 13:04

sk 88 wrote:Side note, politically speaking does anyone know what the view would be in China if Hong Kong qualified? I'd think a symbol of an independent Hong Kong on the world stage wouldn't go down so well?


Hong Kong participates in the Olympic Games, so this isn't new.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Neptune » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 13:05

sk 88 wrote:Canada are obviously the favourites but it will be interesting to see, I think the draw might make a big difference as I can see Canada stuffing up the first game but if anyone else gets into a knockout game with them at the end surely Canada's experience will shine through.

Side note, politically speaking does anyone know what the view would be in China if Hong Kong qualified? I'd think a symbol of an independent Hong Kong on the world stage wouldn't go down so well?


I totally agree with you on this one. I wonder how mainland China will react politically to Hong Kong going it alone.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby sammo » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 13:06

sk 88 wrote:Canada are obviously the favourites but it will be interesting to see, I think the draw might make a big difference as I can see Canada stuffing up the first game but if anyone else gets into a knockout game with them at the end surely Canada's experience will shine through.

Side note, politically speaking does anyone know what the view would be in China if Hong Kong qualified? I'd think a symbol of an independent Hong Kong on the world stage wouldn't go down so well?


HK compete at the Olympics, so them being at the RWC wouldn’t be unique.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Thomas » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 13:22

HK Supports china and supports China's women's team they have been investing heavily into China's programs. No secret.

HK Rugby is not the only National Sport is an interesting symbiotic relationship between China and HK.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby victorsra » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 14:31

Hong Kong played the Womens Rugby World Cup in 2017...
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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby sk 88 » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 18:17

qwerty wrote:
sk 88 wrote:Side note, politically speaking does anyone know what the view would be in China if Hong Kong qualified? I'd think a symbol of an independent Hong Kong on the world stage wouldn't go down so well?


Hong Kong participates in the Olympic Games, so this isn't new.


True but equally they've only won two medals since the handover back to China, both of which were behind Chinese athletes being higher up the podium.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby sk 88 » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 18:22

victorsra wrote:Hong Kong played the Womens Rugby World Cup in 2017...



But let's be serious for a second, hardly anyone watches the women's RWC. I didn't claim it was unique, I asked what the view of the powers that be in China would be for Hong Kong appearing independent at what is a major world event.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 22:56

Hong Kong participates independently throughout world sports. I’m not sure what the issue would even be.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Raven » Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 09:18

China has played (and lost) with HK a few times too, don´t think it´ll make any major impact. Also, not sure (partly due ignorance) if Rugby is a sport with that amount of popularity in China that would create any havoc.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby grande » Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 12:09

After watching the the game vs Castres (and highlights of the game vs Clermont), I've gotta say... I think Kenya's got this. Canada seems to have no desire to tackle, and there's no urgency when they're moving. These weren't our top squads, but there were a lot of players that will be in France in November...

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Raven » Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 12:30

grande wrote:After watching the the game vs Castres (and highlights of the game vs Clermont), I've gotta say... I think Kenya's got this. Canada seems to have no desire to tackle, and there's no urgency when they're moving. These weren't our top squads, but there were a lot of players that will be in France in November...


Castres and Clermont aren´t Uganda, Zimbabwe or Morocco... I dare to say maybe not even Namibia.

Your second string team will also have a good prep playing the second sides of the USA, Tonga, Samoa, and Uruguay, which is a lot better competition than what the other 3 sides will gather in the upcoming months.

That and the RWC experience some of your team will bring is a massive difference, and all the reason why to still consider Canada as the biggest fish in that bowl.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby rugby.change » Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 13:54

It's Canada's to loose I think. They've got the Americas Pacific Challenge to warm up ahead of the Repechage, then they bolster their pros to their squad for the Rep.

Kenya, Germany, Hong Kong will start cold in the first week of the Repechage unless they arrange warm-up fixtures which will be in their best interest.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby JamesWales » Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 14:14

My money is on Canada. I have nothing against them at all, but I think it would be a shame, as the RWC urgently needs fresh blood.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Raven » Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 14:16

rugby.change wrote:It's Canada's to loose I think. They've got the Americas Pacific Challenge to warm up ahead of the Repechage, then they bolster their pros to their squad for the Rep.

Kenya, Germany, Hong Kong will start cold in the first week of the Repechage unless they arrange warm-up fixtures which will be in their best interest.


My point exactly.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby germanbullsfan » Thu, 23 Aug 2018, 15:48

Maybe the old Wild Academy Connections towards SF could make a trainings test match possible between SF and the german XV as a warm up prep.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 08:31

So here is the schedule

Sonntag, 11. November
14:00 Hongkong - Deutschland
16:30 Kanada - Kenia

Samstag, 17. November
14:00 Hongkong - Kenia
16:30 Kanada - Deutschland

Freitag, 23. November
18:00 Kenia - Deutschland
20:30 Hongkong - Kanada

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby amz » Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 08:32

I will probably support Germany. They have a good chance as Canada does not look like can pull its act together

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 08:32

So they went exactly the way I thought 1st vs 4th, 2nd vs 3rd and so on, with 1st vs 2nd being the final game.
I only made the mistake that HK is actually higher in the ranking than Canada :shock:
I absolutely wasn't aware of that.

HK 21st
Canada 23rd
Kenya 28th
Germany 29th
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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Raven » Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 10:46

Uff. Hell of an opener, judging only by rankings one could even argue that HK gets a favorable fixture, playing them in order from bottom - up.

Really, wholeheartedly, can´t wait for it to start.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 13:26

I'm satisfied with that draw, I was worried they were going to play it over 8 days with each team getting only 3 days rest between matches, but WR are giving the tournament the full respect it deserves with a week long break between matches. I must say this Repechage format need to stay for the future, because it brings some much needed publicity to the RWC qualifiers. I'll also add, WR in the last 2 years have done a pretty good job of televising these regional tournaments and RWC qualifying matches on youtube, with the exception of REC/RET games which seem to be controlled by Rugby Europe.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby JLJordaan » Sat, 25 Aug 2018, 11:51

I also hope they keep this format for the Repechage tournament, although I would like 8 teams to compete. That being said, I'd only expand the repechage if the world cup expands to 24 teams.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby Neptune » Sat, 25 Aug 2018, 13:06

JLJordaan wrote:I also hope they keep this format for the Repechage tournament, although I would like 8 teams to compete. That being said, I'd only expand the repechage if the world cup expands to 24 teams.


I don't expect the RWC teams to be expanding any time soon. Maybe 3 decades down the line.

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Re: Repechege Battle 2018

Postby victorsra » Sat, 25 Aug 2018, 13:58

World Rugby contracts depend on the size of the direct market the RWC reaches. There is a decent possibility to see it expanding for 2027.
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