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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby beber » Fri, 05 May 2017, 12:21

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:1st match Georgia U20 55 - 17 Western Province (RSA)
2nd match Georgia U20 11 - 6 Western Province (RSA)
3d match 9th May


I can't find WP Academy squad, but I know the squad include prop JP Botha, born 1995, who also played for Graulhet in Federale1 this season, and hooker Brenton Greaves, born 1996
I don't think the squad includes current U20 baby boks but it still pretty good results against older players (at least for some of them)

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Fri, 05 May 2017, 15:29

3'd test between U20 Lelos and Western Province:
Jaiani will start the match.

1 - Ucha Cheishvili (Montpellier, FRA)
2 - Levan Papidze (Lelo Saracens, GEO)
3 - Guram Gogichaishvili (Lokomotive, GEO)
4 - Lasha Jaiani (Exeter, ENG)
5 - Beka Saghinadze (Lelo Saracens, GEO)
6 - Ilia Spanderashvili (Army, GEO)
7 - Sandro Mamamtavrishvili (TBS University, GEO)
8 - Arsen Machaladze (AIA, GEO)

9 - Gela Aprasidze (Lelo Saracens, GEO)
10 - David Modzgvrishvili (Academy, GEO)
11 - David Meskhi (Army, GEO)
12 - Giorgi Tsiklauri (Jiki, GEO)
13 - Bezhan Gavashelashvili (Lelo Saracens, GEO)
14 - Vladimer Miminoshvili (Batumi, GEO)
15 - Luka Ilurini (Lyon, FRA)

16 - Tengiz Zamtaradze (Lelo Saracens, GEO)
17 - Giorgi Nutsubidze (Jiki, GEO)
18 - Revaz Dugladze (Lelo Saracens, GEO)
19 - Koba Jimsheleishvili (Jiki, GEO)
20 - Giorgi Nutsubidze (AIA, GEO)
21 - Luka Dvalishvili (Armazi, GEO)
22 - Giorgi Gogoladze (Montpellier, FRA)
23 - Akaki Tabutsadze (Lelo Saracens, GEO)
24 - Saba Svimonishvili (Sharks, RSA)
25 - Tornike Jalagonia (Khuligana, GEO)

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby beber » Fri, 05 May 2017, 15:34

[quote="RugbyPUBtbilisi"]3'd test between U20 Lelos and Western Province:
Jaiani will start the match.

Tabidze, Kveseladze and Modebadze did not play a single game against WP, hope they will be fit for the U20 WC

Nice to see Jaiani finally in the starting XV after his minor injury

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Fri, 05 May 2017, 17:38

South Africa's squad for U20 RWC 2017:

Juarno Augustus DHL Western Province Loose forward
Kwenzo Blose* Toyota Free State Cheetahs Prop
Curwin Bosch* Cell C Sharks Flyhalf/Fullback
David Brits DHL Western Province Centre
Jean-Luc Cilliers Xerox Golden Lions Flyhalf
Zain Davids* DHL Western Province Loose forward
Francois de Villiers Cell C Sharks Scrumhalf
Stedman Gans* Vodacom Blue Bulls Centre
Johan Grobbelaar (vice-captain) Vodacom Blue Bulls Hooker
Wikus Groenewald DHL Western Province Prop
Daniel Jooste DHL Western Province Hooker
Rewan Kruger Toyota Free State Cheetahs Scrumhalf
Manie Libbok* Vodacom Blue Bulls Flyhalf/Fullback
Gianni Lombard Xerox Golden Lions Fullback
Len Massyn Xerox Golden Lions Loose forward
Lee-Marvin Mazibuko DHL Western Province Prop
Salmaan Moerat DHL Western Province Lock
Reinhard Nothnagel Xerox Golden Lions Lock
Embrose Papier* Vodacom Blue Bulls Scrumhalf
Yaw Penxe EP Kings Winger
Carlu Sadie* DHL Western Province Prop
Wandisile Simelane Xerox Golden Lions Centre/Wing
Hendre Stassen Vodacom Blue Bulls Lock
Gerhard Steenekamp Vodacom Blue Bulls Prop
Ruben van Heerden Vodacom Blue Bulls Lock
Damian Willemse DHL Western Province Flyhalf
Nama Xaba DHL Western Province Loose forward
Ernst van Rhyn* (captain) DHL Western Province Loose forward
*denotes 2016 World Rugby U20 Championship player

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby beber » Fri, 05 May 2017, 17:51

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:South Africa's squad for U20 RWC 2017:

Juarno Augustus DHL Western Province Loose forward
Kwenzo Blose* Toyota Free State Cheetahs Prop
Curwin Bosch* Cell C Sharks Flyhalf/Fullback
David Brits DHL Western Province Centre
Jean-Luc Cilliers Xerox Golden Lions Flyhalf
Zain Davids* DHL Western Province Loose forward
Francois de Villiers Cell C Sharks Scrumhalf
Stedman Gans* Vodacom Blue Bulls Centre
Johan Grobbelaar (vice-captain) Vodacom Blue Bulls Hooker
Wikus Groenewald DHL Western Province Prop
Daniel Jooste DHL Western Province Hooker
Rewan Kruger Toyota Free State Cheetahs Scrumhalf
Manie Libbok* Vodacom Blue Bulls Flyhalf/Fullback
Gianni Lombard Xerox Golden Lions Fullback
Len Massyn Xerox Golden Lions Loose forward
Lee-Marvin Mazibuko DHL Western Province Prop
Salmaan Moerat DHL Western Province Lock
Reinhard Nothnagel Xerox Golden Lions Lock
Embrose Papier* Vodacom Blue Bulls Scrumhalf
Yaw Penxe EP Kings Winger
Carlu Sadie* DHL Western Province Prop
Wandisile Simelane Xerox Golden Lions Centre/Wing
Hendre Stassen Vodacom Blue Bulls Lock
Gerhard Steenekamp Vodacom Blue Bulls Prop
Ruben van Heerden Vodacom Blue Bulls Lock
Damian Willemse DHL Western Province Flyhalf
Nama Xaba DHL Western Province Loose forward
Ernst van Rhyn* (captain) DHL Western Province Loose forward
*denotes 2016 World Rugby U20 Championship player


Yes, but I don't think these players are currently in Georgia. I think they are in the training camp with others baby boks

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Neptune » Sat, 06 May 2017, 06:58

My money is on an Irish - South African final with Georgia being a wild card team. All the best to the teams, and may the best team win. :)

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby BigG » Mon, 08 May 2017, 10:34

beber wrote:
RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:South Africa's squad for U20 RWC 2017:


Yes, but I don't think these players are currently in Georgia. I think they are in the training camp with others baby boks


Correct, they do not play for WP team in Georgia.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby ormond lad » Wed, 01 Nov 2017, 19:55

Ireland u18 Clubs to play Portugal in Portugal like last year.
Thomas Ahern (Dungarvan RFC/ St. Augustine's Dungarvan)
Connor Beer (Bath Academy/Beechen Cliff School) IQ
Ben Daly (Waterpark RFC/Ard Scoil Na Mhara)
Joshua Dunne (Nottingham Academy/Denstone College) IQ
Marcus Hanan (North Kildare RFC/ Salesians College)
Paddy Harris (Wasps Academy/Henley College) IQ
Joe Henry (Wellington College) IQ
Hayden Hyde (Harlequins Academy/Cranleigh School) IQ
Karl Martin (Boyne RFC / St. Marys School Drogheda)


Padraig McCarthy (Bantry Bay RFC/ Colaiste Pobail Bheanntrai)
Paddy McKenzie (Wicklow RFC / East Glendalough School)
Oran McNulty (Bath Academy/Millfield) IQ
Chris Moore (Beechen Cliff School) IQ
Iarlaith Morrin Laheen (Galwegians RFC/Calasanctius College)
Conor Morrissey (Cork Constitution FC / Mayfield CS)
Shane Murphy (Skerries RFC / St Joseph's Rush)
Evan Murphy (Nenagh Ormond RFC/Nenagh CBS)
Thomas Ahern (Buccaneers RFC/Coláiste Chíaráin)
Mark Nicholson (Wicklow RFC / Colaiste Chill Mhantain)
Conor O'Brien (Nenagh Ormond RFC/Nenagh CBS)
Saul O'Carroll (Buccaneers RFC/Garbally College)
Kevin O'Connor (Cashel RFC/Cashel Community School)
Charlie Ward (Tullow RFC / Tullow Community School)

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby ormond lad » Sun, 05 Nov 2017, 17:46

Ireland beat Portugal 46-27

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby BigG » Mon, 06 Nov 2017, 10:09

Do you know what is going on regarding U20 2018 WC? Due to my last information Argentina will not host the tournament. Meantime France may host next WC. Do you have other info?

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby beber » Mon, 06 Nov 2017, 11:40

BigG wrote:Do you know what is going on regarding U20 2018 WC? Due to my last information Argentina will not host the tournament. Meantime France may host next WC. Do you have other info?


The competition will be played in Narbonne and Perpignan, finals at Béziers

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby BigG » Mon, 06 Nov 2017, 12:06

beber wrote:
BigG wrote:Do you know what is going on regarding U20 2018 WC? Due to my last information Argentina will not host the tournament. Meantime France may host next WC. Do you have other info?


The competition will be played in Narbonne and Perpignan, finals at Béziers


Formidable.
Vive la France.

This is a brilliant opportunity for Georgians from Georgia and across Europe to attend the tournament.

P.S Do you know the dates?

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby IanCleverly » Fri, 17 Nov 2017, 23:33

Current list of countries scheduled to take part in the 2018 Under 18 Rugby Europe Competitions:-

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(From the Ukraine Rugby Website)

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 18 Dec 2017, 19:03

Oh, surprise, Hong Kong will be Asian entrant in World Rugby U20 Trophy:
https://www.worldrugby.org/news/302547

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 21 Dec 2017, 03:43

Not sure if they're playing any matches, but the HSAA and CAN U18s will jointly assemble over Christmas Break here in Arizona.


ETA:

HSAA V. Can U18s 28 DEC 330 PM MST
HSAA V. Can U18s 31 DEC 830 AM MST (fug dat)

I may go to the first one though.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Neptune » Sat, 30 Dec 2017, 12:47

Rugby Afrique has once again come up with their usual "BRILLIANT" ideas. So starting from 2018, the Africa u-20 qualifier for the JWRT trophy will have a final between North vs South. Essentially, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Kenya and Madagascar will all be pooled in the South region, while The North region will comprise of Tunisia, Morrocco and Algeria. Strength of teams was not factored in this decision. Keep in mind that all four teams in the south region were in the U-20 Gold band, while all the the Northern region teams were in the Silver band. This basically means the final will be watered down, as teams from the North can be run rugged by any south team. The games to watch are actually the south region games, rather than the final. As much as this is bringing in affirmative action for all teams across Africa, it feels kind of like a quota system, as the one used in South African rugby, where other factors are considered, and merit is not really put into consideration.

http://ragahouse.com/news/item/odera-ey ... lification

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby victorsra » Sat, 30 Dec 2017, 13:07

Isn't it a simply a matter of $? Probably those travels are payed 100% by the unions and they already saw recently the senior competitions becoming more expensive with more travels.
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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Neptune » Sat, 30 Dec 2017, 13:26

victorsra wrote:Isn't it a simply a matter of $? Probably those travels are payed 100% by the unions and they already saw recently the senior competitions becoming more expensive with more travels.


If that's the case, it would be in Kenya's best interest to join the North region, as the South region is too competitive. I think the same applies in Football, where some countries opt to compete in other regions, to better their chances of world cup competition.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby victorsra » Sat, 30 Dec 2017, 13:32

No, man. It is obviously much cheaper to make Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria to play each other than travelling to the south. And I guess the same for you. Maybe Kenya is an exception, but I don't believe the others have that much money and certainly prefered the idea of playing more regionally. Amateur rugby has to be regional, otherwise you are burning money in travels that is more usefull in delevopment investments.
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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Neptune » Sat, 30 Dec 2017, 13:44

victorsra wrote:No, man. It is obviously much cheaper to make Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria to play each other than travelling to the south. And I guess the same for you. Maybe Kenya is an exception, but I don't believe the others have that much money and certainly prefered the idea of playing more regionally. Amateur rugby has to be regional, otherwise you are burning money in travels that is more usefull in delevopment investments.


I agree with you in terms of costs, but I don't think you understand what im saying in regards to the Quota system. The four teams in Last year's group 1A were
Namibia, Zimbabwe, Madagascar and Kenya with a Kenya - Namibia final which Namibia won and went on to qualify. Group 1B was Tunisia, Morrocco, Senegal and Ivory coast. So, what was the need for the changes, when all these destinations were travel friendly? The new change is just a quota system to boost North African teams which barely make it to the top 6 in terms of African rankings. Problem is that the result of this will be a watered down final not worth watching with any south team that reaches there sure of making a century score in the final.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby victorsra » Sat, 30 Dec 2017, 15:30

I don't think result matters in U20 rugby. What matters is to challenge your young players to become great senior players. Of course the World Trophy is essential, but it is much better for Kenya to have strong matches against your southern neighbours, to help your players to grow. There will be that final against the northern teams that can spoil Trophy ambitions, but if you are concerned about Tunisia ro Morocco you are not good enough for a World Trophy. And the inicial path to be a better team is to beat your neighbours.
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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 30 Dec 2017, 20:03

CAN won both the U16 and U18 matches against the JV and HSAAs. Pretty close but a victory for both the red and white sides.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby grande » Sun, 31 Dec 2017, 13:42

^ I didn't even hear about those games. Our U19 team is also currently in Northern Ireland on a three-game tour. Two losses thus far (23-19 vs Campbell College, 17-7 vs Ards RFC). Third game is Jan 2 vs Ulster U19.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 31 Dec 2017, 21:10

28 DEC HSAA JV 24-25 CAN RED
HSAA 32-29 CAN WHITE

31 DEC HSAA JV 21- 19 CAN RED
HSAA 48-14 CAN WHITE

Even Split in the North American 4 Series. No idea where they came up with that name. Apparently the CAN Red and White Sides will play a match on 2 JAN against each other before heading home.

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Re: Youth Internationals

Postby Scoob » Sun, 31 Dec 2017, 23:44

There is so much ability and promise in Nth America rugby,its frustratingly annoying.I saw brief game highlights of USA high school all americans in there under 18 tournament in Europe in 2017.Individually they were way superior to Portugal,Spain. More line breaks,more individual brilliance. But the European teams performed the basics better and better game knowledge,and looks like they had more time to practice together. You feel with a descent coaching structure{get some NZL coaches over there some how}and you would feel close losses could have been big wins.
Hopefully with major league being successful structures can be put in place from the ground up.

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