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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 14 Feb 2019, 22:41

He did push the player, three times.

The Premiership has chronic eye gougers under contract...please give something better.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Thomas » Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 06:29

All leagues have repeat offenders, the fact remains you and others are in denial that he put the boot in on someone watch the video again. As someone else has stated it looks intentional.

By Him playing in the Premiership I mean knows the level of discipline and enforcement, players get prematch briefings every week. He knows better and then trying to justify it when he was called over.
He got away leniently. In the same way Arata got 3 weeks.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 15:21

I didn't watch lat week's Teros match versus Chile.

Arata should have been suspended for the whole tournament.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 21:15

Thomas wrote:All leagues have repeat offenders, the fact remains you and others are in denial that he put the boot in on someone watch the video again. As someone else has stated it looks intentional.

By Him playing in the Premiership I mean knows the level of discipline and enforcement, players get prematch briefings every week. He knows better and then trying to justify it when he was called over.
He got away leniently. In the same way Arata got 3 weeks.


As I said, don't give me that. The Premiership keeps chronic eye gougers under contract.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Coloradoan » Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 21:18

TheStroBro wrote:
Thomas wrote:All leagues have repeat offenders, the fact remains you and others are in denial that he put the boot in on someone watch the video again. As someone else has stated it looks intentional.

By Him playing in the Premiership I mean knows the level of discipline and enforcement, players get prematch briefings every week. He knows better and then trying to justify it when he was called over.
He got away leniently. In the same way Arata got 3 weeks.


As I said, don't give me that. The Premiership keeps chronic eye gougers under contract.


Give it up man. You're dead wrong on this one and literally the only reason you have this opinion is because he's an American player. Lasike's red and suspension were well deserved.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 22:00

Just to make it clear: it is obviously red. The only thing is that I believe Arata's suspension should be bigger than Lasike's.
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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 17 Feb 2019, 00:10

Lasike's ban has been reduced to one week due to mitigating factors. OK compared to Arata's but it's too lenient for both.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby victorsra » Sun, 17 Feb 2019, 17:01

One week means zero matches, right? That's not a suspension...
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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 17 Feb 2019, 18:38

victorsra wrote:One week means zero matches, right? That's not a suspension...


No, the way this works is that 'Quins had a match this weekend that in theory he would have been eligible for.

I call it the SBW rule.

My personal opinion on this is he just got away with highway robbery. Really weird, would need to read the whole appellate decision to understand why it was further reduced by 75%.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Salta » Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 02:56

Lasike one week and Santiago Carreras three? Did someone see what happened?

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Tobar » Tue, 19 Feb 2019, 15:11

Positive viewership for ARC according to World Rugby. I imagine many of these interactions are from fans in rugby nations.

https://www.world.rugby/news/398762

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby ficcp » Wed, 20 Feb 2019, 03:38

Tobar wrote:Positive viewership for ARC according to World Rugby. I imagine many of these interactions are from fans in rugby nations.

https://www.world.rugby/news/398762


The concepts of Rugby fun, supporter and " person interested in Rugby" are not clearly defined by WR. I accept that many people can watch the ARC matches on TV(broader audience), but I would like to know the attendance to each match and the comparison with previous versions.
In my opinion, the real supporters are those who go to the pitch to watch the matches of their team when it plays at home and follow through TV or streaming the games abroad. The marketing impact is much different between a real supporter and somebody interested in Rugby.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 20 Feb 2019, 04:53

ficcp wrote:
Tobar wrote:Positive viewership for ARC according to World Rugby. I imagine many of these interactions are from fans in rugby nations.

https://www.world.rugby/news/398762


The concepts of Rugby fun, supporter and " person interested in Rugby" are not clearly defined by WR. I accept that many people can watch the ARC matches on TV(broader audience), but I would like to know the attendance to each match and the comparison with previous versions.
In my opinion, the real supporters are those who go to the pitch to watch the matches of their team when it plays at home and follow through TV or streaming the games abroad. The marketing impact is much different between a real supporter and somebody interested in Rugby.


No one is watching the USA matches I can tell you that...#paywall

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 20 Feb 2019, 09:09

ficcp wrote:In my opinion, the real supporters are those who go to the pitch to watch the matches of their team when it plays at home and follow through TV or streaming the games abroad. The marketing impact is much different between a real supporter and somebody interested in Rugby.


The real supporters are those who spend significant amounts of money or time on the game. If they watch the game in a stadium or on a tv doesn't really matter. Real supporters also talk about the game they love a lot and that's especially helpful on social media.

One tends to underestimate what can be changed by just a little group. I.e. rugby at the Olympics wasn't supposed to be broadcasted at all on German tv, but a small group of people started to ask friendly for it on various social media platforms and encouraged others to also do that. At the end, nearly all Olympic rugby could be watched and Germany had the biggest amount of tv viewers worldwide watching the finals.

I think there is no need to think one way or the other is better, but as much as you help the sport to grow, that's great. I still love being in a stadium to watch some rugby though. If you went to a game make sure to let as many people know as possible how much fun you had.
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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 20 Feb 2019, 18:34

For those whom enjoy Spanish language content, EoD's sister show. En La Mele has a new episode covering the ARC: https://soundcloud.com/earfulofdirt/epi ... cha-elm104

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby NaBUru38 » Thu, 21 Feb 2019, 15:11

Stadium attendance can't be the only measure for popularity. USA will play home matches at Austin and Seattle, but there's rugby fans in 50 states.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 21 Feb 2019, 17:40

Dell Diamond isn't Soldier Field...max capacity is 11k. It looks like we won't get even 4k for this one right now...and USAR isn't in the business of giving away tickets to schools for some reason...

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 23 Feb 2019, 20:35

Argentina XV defeated Uruguay 35-10. I watched part of the second half, and the Teros weren't very impressive.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby welshdragon2000 » Sat, 23 Feb 2019, 21:18

NaBUru38 wrote:Argentina XV defeated Uruguay 35-10. I watched part of the second half, and the Teros weren't very impressive.



Weak Uruguay side though so the result is better than I anticipated. I saw Argentina’s last try from the scrum and oh dear is all I can say about that. Uruguay lost the ball from their own feed about 7 or 8 metres out from their line and were pushed over their own goal line. Oh what Uruguay would give for a scrum like Brazil’s.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 24 Feb 2019, 00:29

welshdragon2000 wrote:
NaBUru38 wrote:Argentina XV defeated Uruguay 35-10. I watched part of the second half, and the Teros weren't very impressive.



Weak Uruguay side though so the result is better than I anticipated. I saw Argentina’s last try from the scrum and oh dear is all I can say about that. Uruguay lost the ball from their own feed about 7 or 8 metres out from their line and were pushed over their own goal line. Oh what Uruguay would give for a scrum like Brazil’s.

Considering all of Uruguay's best props are in the US and a lock etc...aka their best players were released to MLR clubs, that's rather impressive of them to play that well.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby Thomas » Sun, 24 Feb 2019, 19:01

Do the ARC have a company like Opta Sports that keeps track and does the statistical analysis?

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 24 Feb 2019, 19:54

Supposedly Stats Insight is doing stats for USAR, but they're not distributing that publicly. I know we use some Gainline Analytics stuff but haven't seen the product. So internally we've got stats, nothing public. Gary Gold measures everything.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby snapper37 » Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 16:47

The final standings will be interesting especially with Brazil playing Uruguay on the last day.


Arentina 5-0----- Chile and Canada
USA 4-1---- Uruguay and Canada
Brazil 3-2---- Chile and Uruguay
Uruguay 2-3---- Yanks and Brazil left
Canada 1-4---- Yanks and Argentina
Chile 0-5----- Doesn't matter.

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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby qwerty » Tue, 26 Feb 2019, 03:46


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Re: 2019 Americas Rugby Championship

Postby 4N » Tue, 26 Feb 2019, 04:10

Did Kessler decide to stay home or was he not picked up by an MLR club? He’s definitely good enough.

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