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Re: RWC 2019

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 14:17

Silver Fox wrote:https://www.world.rugby/news/409350
Apparently I am not the only Dutch rugby fan going to Japan.
According to World Rugby approx. 15,000 tickets have been sold in the Netherlands. :shock:

That should be Heineken guests.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby NedRugby » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 14:58

Yeah, that makes sense. There is no way that 15000 Dutch rugby fans would fly to Japan.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby Suiram » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 15:08

England of all teams has the least to worry about regarding short turnaround matches. They are arguably the deepest squad in the RWC or at least top 3, certainly deepest in the pool. They could start an entirely new first 15 and would not lose much in terms of quality.

Obviously the US is not deep, but I'd say Tonga and Argentina are equally less deep. Argentina really wont have 30 guys who are all used to playing starting matches.

France I am less sure about. In theory they are deep. In practice I dont know.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 15:22

Suiram wrote:Argentina really wont have 30 guys who are all used to playing starting matches.


I think you are way off. They've got the Jaguares, they've got Argentina XV in the Americas, they've got a good national competition + they apparently will chose players from Europe as well.

That's their depth
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/player ... argentina/
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby Tobar » Sat, 30 Mar 2019, 19:49

thatrugbyguy wrote:It's looking more and more likely Japan will be successful, more so than I thought. Which is good news for the tournament, because it means T2 and even T3 nations can seriously consider bidding for the tournament in the future, especially those in Europe.


I would love to see Spain host. They will easily have good attendance from the rest of Europe alone but will have a lot of domestic fans as well, especially if the matches are held near the French border. It would make a ton of sense to have the 2031 RWC there and Spain should fight for that.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby 4N » Sat, 30 Mar 2019, 19:56

Agree Spain would make good hosts. I guess the question would be could they secure government backing to cover the hosting fee?

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby beber » Sat, 30 Mar 2019, 20:55

Tobar wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:It's looking more and more likely Japan will be successful, more so than I thought. Which is good news for the tournament, because it means T2 and even T3 nations can seriously consider bidding for the tournament in the future, especially those in Europe.


I would love to see Spain host. They will easily have good attendance from the rest of Europe alone but will have a lot of domestic fans as well, especially if the matches are held near the French border. It would make a ton of sense to have the 2031 RWC there and Spain should fight for that.


Absolutely. And big stadiums hosted big rugby games, included Top14 final (Nou Camp), EPCR Champions Cup final (San Mames), and various games in Anoeta and Lluís Companys.

12 stadiums that a RWC needs (ordered by size) :

Nou Camp - Barcelona (Catalunya) - 99 354
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Santiago Bernabeu - Madrid (Madrid) - 81 044
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Lluís Companys - Barcelona (Catalunya) - 60 713
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Estadio de La Cartuja - Sevilla (Andalucia) - 60 000
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San Mamés - Bilbao (Basque Country) - 53 289
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Anoeta - San Sebastian (Basque Country) - 39 500
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La Romareda - Zaragoza (Aragon) - 34 496
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José Zorilla - Valladolid (Castile and Leon) - 26 512
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Estadio Ciudad de Valencia - Valencia (Valencian Community) - 25 354
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Carlos Belmonte - Albacete (Castille la Mancha) - 17 524
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Nacional Complutense - Madrid (Madrid) - 12 400
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Estadio Vero Boquete de San Lázaro - Santiago de Compostela (Galicia) - 12 000
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Re: RWC 2019

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 30 Mar 2019, 21:17

Poltiical instability would be the main roadblock. How the hell a hung parliament can approve a 100 M€ check for a sport that even if growing is still 18th in common practice? And once that sorted, football clubs would equally be a hardship to overcome to ensure the use of the sexiest venues...

Given recent development I'd bet on Russia launching a serious bid before we do. They have a union with good political connections, brand new venues without too much use and at least 10 votes from Council secured.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby sk 88 » Sat, 30 Mar 2019, 21:59

I wonder whether a private company (CVC?) might pay the €100m Euro bond on the basis it then takes all the ticket money profit with the "host" union getting only the honour of hosting plus any ancillary commercial benefits?

Not for Spain specifically but for someone given the way rugby administration is going/has gone.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby BigG » Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 11:45

sk 88 wrote:I wonder whether a private company (CVC?) might pay the €100m Euro bond on the basis it then takes all the ticket money profit with the "host" union getting only the honour of hosting plus any ancillary commercial benefits?

Not for Spain specifically but for someone given the way rugby administration is going/has gone.


I believe, CVC was fake news used by six nations while negotiating with the WR on the World League issues.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby sk 88 » Mon, 01 Apr 2019, 17:02

Well they still exist and have still invested £200m in Premiership Rugby, so the vague idea still stands. I wonder what World Rugby would make of it if it were to be a live possibility.

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Re: RWC 2019

Postby rwcinfo » Sun, 21 Apr 2019, 06:10

Thank you for good information...

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