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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Pichulonko » Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 22:48

argie wrote:This is the article we are talking about, with the interview of Ignacio Chans to Daniel Hourcade:
https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/da ... 0194171348

Hourcade: Chilean Rugby is Social, Without Any Commitment
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2019/0 ... ommitment/


I remember that interview I couldn't disagree more with Hourcade. The only thing he said that is spot on is that rugby in Chile and in Argentina are very different but it doesn't take a genius to know that fact.

I don't know who he had been talking to or what places he visited but to have the nerve to say that players have no true commitment to rugby in Chile is laughable. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though. I bet the old man is not up by 6:00 in the morning to see the Cóndores practice before they head off to school/work. And I'm certain he doesn't stay up until midnight to see them finish off their daily training before doing it all over again the next day.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby carbonero » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 00:17

You are describing HP training in the national team. Those 6:00 AM sessions started with Lemoine in 2018. Hourcade is familiar with that commitment because he supervises your program. Read the interview with "El Observador". He was talking about the amateur club scene.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Pichulonko » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 01:03

Healy and Olfos implemented those workouts long before Lemoine landed in Chile, that's why I wonder who did Hourcade visit in Chile though I guarantee you he didn't come close to any of the Top 8 clubs, where players know that if they slack off there's five people on their heels to take their spot.

Anyhow what I criticize about rugby in Chile is the poor infrastructure, a nonexistent referee college and all the young talent lost that end up falling through the cracks due to the lack of support from the unions.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Tobar » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 04:02

Pichulonko wrote:Whatever. I'm not worried about Hourcade praising Colombia, after all their development is his meal ticket. What I criticize him for is that because of the position he holds within SAR he should watch what he says publicly about other unions. For instance Agustín Pichot would never be quoted saying something like that. He has much better judgement.


You seemed pretty upset about it and called him biased because he said something negative about Chile. Are you still saying he’s biased? Or are you shifting to a different argument now that you’ve been proven wrong?

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby carbonero » Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 04:41

Pichulonko wrote:Healy and Olfos implemented those workouts long before Lemoine landed in Chile, that's why I wonder who did Hourcade visit in Chile though I guarantee you he didn't come close to any of the Top 8 clubs, where players know that if they slack off there's five people on their heels to take their spot.

Point taken about Olfos but Lemoine has doubled the workload in the XVs. They didn’t have nine weekly training sessions under Healy.

Also, is there any club in Top 8 that trains three times per week? Because that is the norm for top tier sides in Uruguay/Argentina. And that is a measure of commitment. Hourcade needs to be more diplomatic. It is unfair to paint everybody with the same brush. Nonetheless, in relative terms there is less commitment.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby TuMachNach » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 03:57

The Website Farodeportivo from Chile gives a list of Chilean players in Selknam. It's a list formed by rumours in the Chilean rugby environment.


http://farodeportivo.cl/selknam-lista-d ... -definida/

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Pichulonko » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 05:07

It's not rumors it's simply a partial and unofficial list.

The journalist who broke the story is former Condors first rower Oliver Thompson who still has a close relationship with most of the Chileans on the Selknam roster. He has insider information.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Tobar » Sat, 01 Feb 2020, 17:41

So bizarre how they intentionally choose not to share their roster or even publicize that this team exists. As far as I know, Chile Rugby has only tweeted about them once and that was to say that they will announce the roster soon (weeks ago). Do they want people to come search their games?

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby carbonero » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 03:47

carbonero wrote:According to La Voz, Ceibos will set up base in Palermo Bajo > https://mundod.lavoz.com.ar/rugby/ceibo ... boulevares

The VP of the Córdoba union confirms that Tala RC will host Ceibos > https://canalshowsport.com.ar/la-union- ... o-por-ssn/

No brainer. It is the equivalent of CASI in Buenos Aires. They have stands for around 3.000 fans.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby victorsra » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 03:53

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8FsJWJgyXB ... tn8sdunrrx

SLAR basicaly shaming Corinthians/CBRu.

Never seen anything like this in professional sports.

:? Nobody can say I haven't warned...
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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby victorsra » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 18:19

http://ww2.brasilrugby.com.br/wp-conten ... .12_vf.pdf

Basicaly Eduardo Mufarej himself is in charge of Corinthians project and will probably pay for it.
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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby tryman » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 19:58

victorsra wrote:http://ww2.brasilrugby.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ata-ca-16.12_vf.pdf

Basicaly Eduardo Mufarej himself is in charge of Corinthians project and will probably pay for it.


Fund the team himself? How wealthy is this guy?!

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Pedro1 » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 20:27

Looks like Danza was quite the cowboy.

Sucks to read the situation regarding the stipend the athletes receive. Rocky times ahead in Brazil.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby victorsra » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 21:35

tryman wrote:
victorsra wrote:http://ww2.brasilrugby.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ata-ca-16.12_vf.pdf

Basicaly Eduardo Mufarej himself is in charge of Corinthians project and will probably pay for it.


Fund the team himself? How wealthy is this guy?!

A lot. He made his money founding an asset management venture. Now he launched a "school of politicians" to invest money in the formation of new politicians and he's behind the possible launch of a TV celebrity as Brazilian president for the next elections.
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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby tryman » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 22:35

If he funds the team in the first year to get it off the ground that will be a good start.

Hoping they can be competitive.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby victorsra » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 23:14

Well, they invented the franchise and tried to sell it to a private investor and weren't succesful. Mufarej is the president of the Brazilian Rugby Union. Now it is up to him, "plan B".

And Corinthians won't put anything on it but we non-Corinthians fans will have to support it, which is unbearable. The idea was clearly to use Corinthians' name to ad value to it when they were trying to sell. Now, the majority of rugby fans will be in this ridiculous situation for nothing.

BTW, I already saw many Brazilian rugby fans saying they'll support Peñarol or Olimpia. Congratulation to everybody involved.
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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 23:28

Vamos la Capyvaras

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby victorsra » Mon, 03 Feb 2020, 23:32

:lol: :lol: As Capivaras :D
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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Tobar » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 16:13

Peñarol released season ticket info

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8MKLqNJNLd ... 1y7w1lttj8

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby Canalina » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 16:24

I like capivaras, they would be nice mascots. Are they the symbol of the brasilian franchise?

Anyway they don't seem animals very agguerrite...
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/22/14 ... dfe787.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DinrY-rWkAAYWZc.jpg

We have some sort of capybaras here in my region, but a bit less nice; they a type of little castor, people see them as "big rats" and they are not very loved

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby argie » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 16:51

Here they are called Carpinchos. :)

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby victorsra » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 17:05

Canalina wrote:I like capivaras, they would be nice mascots. Are they the symbol of the brasilian franchise?

Anyway they don't seem animals very agguerrite...
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/22/14 ... dfe787.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DinrY-rWkAAYWZc.jpg

We have some sort of capybaras here in my region, but a bit less nice; they a type of little castor, people see them as "big rats" and they are not very loved

They aren't. It is just an idea that spread inside the community.
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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 17:24

Tobar wrote:Peñarol released season ticket info

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8MKLqNJNLd ... 1y7w1lttj8


Median Household income is $10,000 so $85 ain't the worst. Although not the best given how many games there will be.

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Re: Superliga Americana de Rugby (SLAR)

Postby victorsra » Wed, 05 Feb 2020, 18:03

It looks like Brazilian players will have contracts with the Brazilian Rugby Union, not with Corinthians. So it is realy just a name. It is the Tupis like they are now. The only question is eventual foreign players.
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