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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby dans » Fri, 01 Mar 2019, 23:13

Thomas wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:This is what I think happened:

• Pichot puts the idea of the WL on the table, with the stipulation the 6N implement promotion/relegation
• SANZAAR agree to expansion of the RC to 6 teams, but will to implement promotion/relegation
• 6N baulk at the idea of opening up, say the WL will only be considered if their competition remains closed.
• SANZAAR, wanting the money being offered, unwilling to be the only tournament that has pro/rel, considers simply expanding to 6 teams


One of the best summaries, you probably close to the truth than you think.


Yeap..it does add up!... it seems like an unfinished project ...leaked to the press and killed completely...

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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 00:10

The only group that aren't on board with this are the 6N. So it makes me wonder, if TRC were open to promotion and relegation and the 6N weren't, was this leak done in a way to make SANZAAR look bad? I don't want to go down the road of conspiracy theories but someone clearly wanted this news to come out.

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Re: World Cup boycott

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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 00:58

thatrugbyguy wrote:The only group that aren't on board with this are the 6N. So it makes me wonder, if TRC were open to promotion and relegation and the 6N weren't, was this leak done in a way to make SANZAAR look bad? I don't want to go down the road of conspiracy theories but someone clearly wanted this news to come out.

Saw that theory on twitter...6N source leaks plan to NZ Herald so it looks like it comes from NZRU etc.

So perhaps Daniel Leo should get off twitter and acting like he speaks for the active players whom are in the Pacific Rugby Players Association:
In response to current media conjecture, we would like to provide clarity that the players of Fiji, Tonga and Samoa remain 100% committed and are looking forward to competing at the 2019 Rugby World Cup.

Pacific Rugby Players (PRP) are the official representatives of the players of the Pacific and are currently working alongside International Rugby Players Association to ensure that World Rugby engage in constructive conversations about the next steps for the proposed global competition. The threat of boycott of the World Cup is not currently on the table.

In all forums we are standing strong for the rugby players of the Pacific and continue to represent the best interests of the Pacific Island rugby. The players will be heard.


https://www.facebook.com/pacificrugbypl ... 1817090317
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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby Petelo » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 02:13

I support a boycott. World Rugby are an absolute disgrace if this goes through.

It will without a doubt kill rugby in the pacific.

For Fiji to be ranked 9th in the world and get given the middle finger really takes FIFA-levels of gumption. WR are not even trying to hide their protection racket anymore.

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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 02:14

Petelo wrote:I support a boycott. World Rugby are an absolute disgrace if this goes through.

It will without a doubt kill rugby in the pacific.

For Fiji to be ranked 9th in the world and get given the middle finger really takes FIFA-levels of gumption. WR are not even trying to hide their protection racket anymore.

To be honest, FIFA is corrupt in a whole lot of ways...but at least they keep expanding the World Cup.

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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 02:33

It's badly worded. FIFA keeps expanding the World Cup because it's at the base of its corrupt system. Presidents need the votes of lesser nations, so they progressively make promises of expanding its biggest tournament.

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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 02:43

World Rugby isn't nearly as bad as FIFA, not by a long shot. However, they have a habit of being woefully contradictory. They don't want to go all crazy with expansion like FIFA, and they don't want to regress like what Cricket has, they are stuck somewhere in the middle of trying to please different groups of unions.

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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby victorsra » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 03:16

Armchair Fan wrote:It's badly worded. FIFA keeps expanding the World Cup because it's at the base of its corrupt system. Presidents need the votes of lesser nations, so they progressively make promises of expanding its biggest tournament.


FIFA was born in 1904 already thinking about expansion. It has always thought about global expansion and it was born outside the British Empire. Of course it was born in a Eurocentric world but it changed through time, with a lot of struggle. And eventualy, as already a truly global sport, FIFA killed its own soul with the huge amount of money ciirculating inside the system FIFA itself created. Not that FIFA was pure or anything like this. It was a big field of ideological disputes much before becoming the laundry it is now. But it is deeply rooted in FIFA the idea of being truly global. That is the opposite of rugby or cricket.
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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby victorsra » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 03:32

thatrugbyguy wrote:Brazil add their voice:

https://ww2.brasilrugby.com.br/blogs/ne ... das-nacoes


Good, they are against a closed system. Would be nice if they defended the same inside Brazil :roll:
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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby sk 88 » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 10:50

victorsra wrote:Well, not dumb. They'd give up from RWC money to fight against being left with even less money from 2020 to 2029...


The players hardly make any money from the RWC though.

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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby BigG » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 12:24

What about this?

Brett Gosper (@brettgosper) Tweeted:
Avalanche of media on World League in last 24hrs. Many inaccuracies. World Rugby has pushed for relegation/promotion which is not universally supported. The 2 extra tier 2 teams funded to enter the Rugby Championship will be selected on merit - so no Pacific shut out!

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Re: World Cup boycott

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 02 Mar 2019, 19:15

BigG wrote:What about this?

Brett Gosper (@brettgosper) Tweeted:
Avalanche of media on World League in last 24hrs. Many inaccuracies. World Rugby has pushed for relegation/promotion which is not universally supported. The 2 extra tier 2 teams funded to enter the Rugby Championship will be selected on merit - so no Pacific shut out!

Seems very simple so far to me. Pichot, Beaumont, and Gosper have one position and 6N have another.

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