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Sunwolves out of Super Rugby?

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Re: Sunwolves out of Super Rugby?

Postby 4N » Sat, 30 Mar 2019, 17:56

Sunwolves beat Waratahs in Australia. This move is just looking worse and worse.

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Re: Sunwolves out of Super Rugby?

Postby Sables4EVA » Mon, 01 Apr 2019, 11:15

Further to my earlier post about Australia in Super Rugby and the fans aversion to it.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/latest-t ... wt2PzSEKRM

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Re: Sunwolves out of Super Rugby?

Postby MikeN » Mon, 01 Apr 2019, 20:11

What are the chances of sunwolves not playing super rugby next year?

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Re: Sunwolves out of Super Rugby?

Postby Working Class Rugger » Tue, 02 Apr 2019, 01:08

Sables4EVA wrote:Further to my earlier post about Australia in Super Rugby and the fans aversion to it.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/latest-t ... wt2PzSEKRM


That article actually illustrates the point most Aus fans have in regards to the TT competition. If the games involving Aus/Aus and Aus/NZ were the only games calculated the average would have been 65k. More than 25% higher. The start to this season saw on average more than 20% up on last years start with largely the same block of games. The issue is now we've got games outside our preferred time zones and against opposition people don't identify with. Which drags down our ratings well. A great deal and you can see.

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Re: Sunwolves out of Super Rugby?

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 02 Apr 2019, 08:05

Working Class Rugger wrote:The issue is now we've got games outside our preferred time zones and against opposition people don't identify with. Which drags down our ratings well. A great deal and you can see.


Tokio is GMT+9 (Singapore GMT+8), Brisbane GMT+10, Sydney/Melbourne GMT+11, Auckland GMT+13,
So Japan is actually is two hours behind, while New Zealand is two hours before OZ Eastern time. For Brisbane, Japan is even in a better time-zone than NZ.
(the daylight saving is not an issue as Nz apparently also does that next sunday)

So the issues are the SA teams and not the Japanese one (as long as it doesn't play in Singapore).
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Sunwolves out of Super Rugby?

Postby Working Class Rugger » Tue, 02 Apr 2019, 10:10

RugbyLiebe wrote:
Working Class Rugger wrote:The issue is now we've got games outside our preferred time zones and against opposition people don't identify with. Which drags down our ratings well. A great deal and you can see.


Tokio is GMT+9 (Singapore GMT+8), Brisbane GMT+10, Sydney/Melbourne GMT+11, Auckland GMT+13,
So Japan is actually is two hours behind, while New Zealand is two hours before OZ Eastern time. For Brisbane, Japan is even in a better time-zone than NZ.
(the daylight saving is not an issue as Nz apparently also does that next sunday)

So the issues are the SA teams and not the Japanese one (as long as it doesn't play in Singapore).


The issue, well one of them, is that games in the Republic are in the middle of the night in Australia. The first game of the weekend kicks off at 12 am. The other which is somewhat related to that is even for Rugby fans not seeing these teams at all outside of the tours here makes mustering enthusiasm and a sense of rivalry are really hard sell. When you see names like the Blues, Crusaders, Chiefs etc. people instantly recognise where the are from and that they are NZ teams. So there's a an instant almost sibling rivalry there. Plus, there's usually a bunch of NZ expats there to enhance it. It's just a deeper connection.

The Sunwolves offer something both familiar and different at the same time. There's a history and curiosity around all things Japanese and we also have reasonably significant Japanese expat populations in our major cities. The are compelling to Australian audiences. If that game were played in Sydney as with last year it would have drawn the the Tahs largest crowd for the season or close to it and there would have been a fairly good turning out of Japanese fans.

While there are Sth Africans living in Sydney there's no where near the numbers that are living in Perth.

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Re: Sunwolves out of Super Rugby?

Postby Neptune » Wed, 03 Apr 2019, 04:12

This is very unfair to the wolves and the Japanese rugby community in general. Especially after the wolves had started improving, and had beaten big teams like the tahs just last week. Why should they be forced to pay a fee while other franchise teams didn't pay a single dime? This is just unfair.

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