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HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 08:23

HK 7s World Series qualifier April 5-7 2019

Participating teams:
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Favourites:
Ireland, Russia, Germany, Chile, Hong Kong

Potential dark horses:
Tonga, Zimbabwe, Uganda

Schedule:
https://hksevens.com/match-schedule/2019-match-schedule


With the HK 7s starting in under 10 days, I thought it was a good idea to have a designated thread for this tournament.
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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 08:50

I'll start with the German squad, which was released yesterday

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Probably the toughest selecetion ever for the German national coach Vuyo Zangqa. The on call players Max Calitz and Zani Dembele are both outstanding players, but as it looks like about everyone is actually fit and ready to go at the moment. Even past regulars like Carlos Sorteras Merz or Kain Rix, who was part of the last preparation unit are actually fit at the moment but weren't selected. Only injury I know about is Ben Ellermann.

3 Players to watch: Fromm, Brechenmacher, Heimpel (the German squad has actually a lot of players close to the same level, tough to choose from, but those are the 3 guys I think who can make a difference).
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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 10:04

Tipping Germany for this.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 14:09

Group E has two Asian teas. Group F has two European teams and two Americas teams. Ridiculous.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby Suiram » Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 14:57

Been saying it every year, but Chile looks really impressive in 7s and they have focused on it. Have been very successful in the Americas, far above typical competitor Uruguay. Just not sure they can sustain their play through the whole tournament.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby Raven » Thu, 28 Mar 2019, 16:03

Suiram wrote:Been saying it every year, but Chile looks really impressive in 7s and they have focused on it. Have been very successful in the Americas, far above typical competitor Uruguay. Just not sure they can sustain their play through the whole tournament.


I agree Chile has looked good, but it´s partly due to Argentina sending second string teams to the South American comps to widen up their base (even played with training gear), and Uruguay focusing quite a lot more on XV now with their RWC participation, there are only that many players in the pool to pick from.

That being said, in a 7 v 7 - on the day, Chile won, so no excuses allowed!

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby 4N » Thu, 28 Mar 2019, 16:08

This is Ireland’s to lose IMO.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby Raven » Thu, 28 Mar 2019, 16:14

4N wrote:This is Ireland’s to lose IMO.


I´ll second this :thumbup:

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 30 Mar 2019, 16:20

One more week!

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 07:37

So Germany had two really close victories over Uganda and the Cook Islands. Due to Chile basically trashing those two teams, Germany and Chile are already in the quarter finals.

Germany definitely need to step up their level, if they want to have any chance. With Chile I saw a statistic of 11 passes, when they had already scored 5 tries against Uganda. That's what you call individual skill then. Chile looks like the favourite we all thought they would be. Germany doesn't yet.
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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby rey200 » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 08:21

Ireland - Uruguay 26:26

there we go again...?
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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 08:45

Yeah, Chile are looking good. Looks like Chile, Germany, Russia, Ireland, Uruguay, HK, and Tonga have all qualified. Will come down to Zimbabwe v Philippines and Cook Islands v Uganda for the last 2 places.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby Blurandski » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 09:05

If Russia beat Ireland, and Uruguay beat Jamaica, with the avg winning margin of those two games being 26points then Ireland will be out at the pools.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 09:10

Blurandski wrote:If Russia beat Ireland, and Uruguay beat Jamaica, with the avg winning margin of those two games being 26points then Ireland will be out at the pools.


Nope, Ireland is also already qualified.
Jamaica can't reach them so they are a guaranteed 3rd in their group. Also in the other groups the best third can't have more than one single win, so if Ireland finishes 3rd they are still best 3rd, no matter how they play in the last game.

EDIT:
Oh, I was wrong.
Actually they can still be eliminated, if they lose big time. This 3,2,1 points system sucks tbh.
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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 11:57

What's the odds of Uruguay pressing for that big a win though? Even a loss would secure their path to the quarter finals.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 12:35

thatrugbyguy wrote:What's the odds of Uruguay pressing for that big a win though? Even a loss would secure their path to the quarter finals.


Maybe as high as having five teams scoring exactly 26 points each in just 4 matches :D
But I also see no way that Ireland won't reach the quarter finals.
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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby fridge46 » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 12:41

RugbyLiebe wrote:
Blurandski wrote:If Russia beat Ireland, and Uruguay beat Jamaica, with the avg winning margin of those two games being 26points then Ireland will be out at the pools.


Nope, Ireland is also already qualified.
Jamaica can't reach them so they are a guaranteed 3rd in their group. Also in the other groups the best third can't have more than one single win, so if Ireland finishes 3rd they are still best 3rd, no matter how they play in the last game.

EDIT:
Oh, I was wrong.
Actually they can still be eliminated, if they lose big time. This 3,2,1 points system sucks tbh.


No, you were right the first time. The worse Ireland can finish is 3rd in their group with 6 points (1W-1D-1L)

In the other two groups, the best the 3rd placed teams can manage is 5 points (1W-0D-2L).

So either way, Ireland wont finished below "Best 3rd".

thatrugbyguy wrote:What's the odds of Uruguay pressing for that big a win though? Even a loss would secure their path to the quarter finals.


If Uruguay lose, they are out. They will be bottom of the group with 4 points (0W-1D-2L) compared to Jamaicas 5 points (1W-0D-2L)

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 05 Apr 2019, 12:48

Whoops, my mistake, I was looking at the wrong group.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby Suiram » Sat, 06 Apr 2019, 03:31

WR slow to update their qualifier site so estimating the reseeding myself. I actually like the reseeding idea.

Quarterfinals:

Germany v Uruguay
Ireland v Russia (rematch of pool)
Chile vs Tonga
HK v Philippines

Very good luck for HK. Ireland and Chile both had far better point differentials than Germany or HK. Ireland took a big knock from the draw to Uruguay. I’d say they have a much harder path now (likely beat Russia than best Germany)

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 06 Apr 2019, 12:38

Uruguay lost to Germany in the very last play. Heartbreaking.

Ireland, Chile and Hong Kong won their matches.

By the way, Philippines defeated Zimbabwe, which it a major upset.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby 4N » Sat, 06 Apr 2019, 12:44

Ireland beat Russia 47-0. Wow.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sat, 06 Apr 2019, 17:41

Germany playing like Germany always does. Just enough to win it. But that victory in overtime, with one man in the sinbin was really a nailbiter.
My bet is, that the winner of Ireland vs. Germany will be in the World Series next year.
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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby Thomas » Sat, 06 Apr 2019, 18:55

Germany v Chile final anyone??

Chile actually haven't played bad.. only lost against Germany.

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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby victorsra » Sat, 06 Apr 2019, 21:51

Vamos Chile!!!

It is good for us :)
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Re: HK 7s World Series Qualifier

Postby Blurandski » Sat, 06 Apr 2019, 23:04

Anyone but Ireland. Chile and Germany would both be great additions.

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