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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby payoranger » Sun, 09 Feb 2020, 15:50

Congrats to Georgia, the best team in this championship. I think Spain today has mistaken the attacking plan but obviously the georgians play better with a very good defense. Spain has to improve more for winning this tournament.
Still some good news for Spain, we stood in the field until the end, we have a a lot of players and there was a very good crowd in Madrid today, at least 10-12 thousand
The tournament is going to be very interesting, Romania and Russia have to try to recover from this start. Nice to watch the next matches

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 09 Feb 2020, 16:22

Thomas wrote:What's the crowd numbers?

11,200 according to FER

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 05:54

what's wrong with Rosie WILLIAMS (RFU) :?:

https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/2019-20-reic ... vs-georgia

when delegates from so-called HOME UNIONS learn this sequence:
1) finalize game sheet - 2) go to after match dinner :!:

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 14:36

Good to see a bit of a battle this year. Normally it's Georgia first and Romania challenging, followed by Russia and Spain battling for third and fourth, then Belgium and whoever else fighting against relegation. Am I right in thinking Portugal was the last team to win the REC outside of Georgia and Romania?

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 15:05

You are

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 16:16

This year the REC is truely exciting, I say that as a fan from a freshly relegated nation.
The best thing is, that Portugal reflects, what they did in 2015, when they scared Scotland & Ireland out of the U18 Euro. If rugby was governed like every other serious sport, I would smell a lot of change and upsets in the next years.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Tue, 11 Feb 2020, 18:16

LATE and full of ERRORs, as expected
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/sites/defaul ... eet_v2.pdf

TRUST this instead -- notes taken on fly and then scrutinized via video
http://vue.ge/2019-2020/EVROPA/2-OQMEBI.htm

ADVICE to RE: do not appoint delegates from HOME NATIONS -- they are USELESS en masse

EXTRA note for nerds -- SPN #3 donned on #26 jersey at 26'

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 12 Feb 2020, 01:58

You know what I hate about this competition? Someone has to be relegated. I don't want to see any of the teams relegated.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 12 Feb 2020, 02:26

thatrugbyguy wrote:You know what I hate about this competition? Someone has to be relegated. I don't want to see any of the teams relegated.


Yes, I don't really understand why a team has to be relegated, as the REC is going to be expanded to 8 teams.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby 4N » Wed, 12 Feb 2020, 02:53

Nobody has to be relegated. There’s a playoff.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby victorsra » Wed, 12 Feb 2020, 03:00

Chester-Donnelly wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:You know what I hate about this competition? Someone has to be relegated. I don't want to see any of the teams relegated.


Yes, I don't really understand why a team has to be relegated, as the REC is going to be expanded to 8 teams.

Is it confirmed?
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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 12 Feb 2020, 03:06

victorsra wrote:
Chester-Donnelly wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:You know what I hate about this competition? Someone has to be relegated. I don't want to see any of the teams relegated.


Yes, I don't really understand why a team has to be relegated, as the REC is going to be expanded to 8 teams.

Is it confirmed?


I think I only read that on here. I don't remember seeing a source but I believe it to be true.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 12 Feb 2020, 08:31

thatrugbyguy wrote:You know what I hate about this competition? Someone has to be relegated. I don't want to see any of the teams relegated.


Well, one team is only there, because they got promoted. That's exactly the thrill of promotion/relegation. Teams have incentive to get better. I am sure the Netherlands would add a lot to it as well. And if Germany has solved its problems we will compete as well. It is okay to feel pity for a relegated team, but in the "new blood" always creates more excitement. That's basically soccer's success story.
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 19:19

About the good work of Rugby Europe, here it is the calendar of the 2020 competitions
Considering that the peak of european rugby is west-orientated (home nations and France), I like the fact that the most of the Rugby Europe competitions are hosted by eastern nations

www.rugbyeurope.eu/sites/default/files/ ... _19-20.pdf

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 20:54

Canalina wrote:About the good work of Rugby Europe, here it is the calendar of the 2020 competitions
Considering that the peak of european rugby is west-orientated (home nations and France), I like the fact that the most of the Rugby Europe competitions are hosted by eastern nations

http://www.rugbyeurope.eu/sites/default ... _19-20.pdf


Wow, really targeting the East.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby victorsra » Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 21:05

I'd say the tournaments department is pretty good. The problem seems to be the marketing and comercial departments. The communications department is pretty good doing the basics, but probably needs more $ to have a larger approach. In almost all other continental unions the communications are not doing the basics well. Maybe Asia is, but the Americas, Africa and Oceania aren't.
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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 15 Feb 2020, 00:10

Chester-Donnelly wrote:Wow, really targeting the East.

It doesn't work that way. Hosts need to bid and unfortunately there aren't that many bidders as rarely any tournament if profitable, so persistence is rewarded. Portugal has hosted something like 8 out of 11 last U19/U20 tournaments for example and I don't see U18 moving from Kaliningrad anytime soon. The same could be said about Moscow stop by 7s.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Canalina » Sat, 15 Feb 2020, 06:30

Women U18 7s Championship still to be assigned
And they forgot to insert in this table the Women XV Championship (march/april) and Trophy (may)
They don't mention the Women's world cup qualifying games (september), maybe because they are considered under the World Rugby umbrella and not under the Rugby Europe's one

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 20:23

Georgia bringing a lot of youngster on the field against Belgium

1 - Guram Gogichashvili 1998 (Racing)
2 - Vano Karkadze 2000 (Brive)
3 - Giorgi Melikidze 1996 (Stade Francias)
4 - Lasha Jaiani 1998 (Exeter) Debut
5 - Nodar Tcheishvili 1990 (London Scottish)
6 - Giorgi Tkhilaishvili 1991 (Batumi)
7 - Giorgi Tsutskiridze 1996 (Aurillac)
8 - Beka Gorgadze 1996 (Bordeaux) (C)

9 - Gela Aprasidze 1998 (Montpelier)
10 - Tedo Abzhandadze 1999 (Brive)
11 - Akaki Tabutsadze 1997 (Lelo Saracens)
12 - Lasha Malaguradze 1986 (VVA)
13 - Demur Tapladze 2000 (Lelo Saracens) Debut
14 - Zurab Dzneladze 1992 (Locomotive)
15 - Soso Matiashvili 1993 (Lelo Saracens)

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby 4N » Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 20:47

Tapladze probably best known for his break that set up this try. Will be interesting to see how he goes at senior level.


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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby amz » Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 08:56

Oaks squad for match vs Spain:

First XV:
1. Savin
2. Capatana
3. Pungea
4. Van Heerden
5. Motoc
6. Macovei
7. Ser
8. Chirica
9. Surugiu
10. Plai
11. Onutu
12. Vlaicu
13. Fercu
14. Simionescu
15. Melinte

Subs:
16. Pristavita
17. Cojocaru
18. Poparlan
19. Ion
20. Bratu
21. V. Popa
22. Moa Maliepo
23. Burtila

Interesting bench...

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 10:19

Spain
1. FUTEU, Thierry (Stade Français, Top 14, 6 caps)
2. PINTO, Marco (Béziers, Pro D2, 21)
3. BLANCO, Alberto (VRAC Quesos Entrepinares, DH, 19)
4. GUILLAUME, Lucas (Albi, Fédérale 1, 18)
5. PETERS, Joshua (Blackheath RC, National League 1, 6)
6. QUERCY, Frédéric (Nevers, Pro D2, 6)
7. GIBOUIN, Gautier (Nevers, Pro D2, 43) (C)
8. TAULI, Lionel A. ‘Afa’ (UE Santboiana, DH, 11)
9. RUBIO, Lucas (Soyaux-Angoulême, Pro D2, 8)
10. LINKLATER, Brad (Lexus Alcobendas, DH, 30)
11. CONTARDI, Ignacio (Aldro Independiente, DH, 33)
12. GIMENO, Alvar (Béziers, Pro D2, 18)
13. STEWART, Richard (Lexus Alcobendas, DH, 12)
14. GOIA, Julen (Ampo Ordizia, DH, 27)
15. BELL, John-Wessel (VRAC Quesos Entrepinares, DH, 3)

16. DÍAZ, José (VRAC Quesos Entrepinares, DH, uncapped)
17. DEL HOYO, Vicente (SilverStorm El Salvador, DH, 8)
18. ZABALA, Jon (Anglet, Fédérale 1, 11)
19. SÁNCHEZ, Víctor (SilverStorm El Salvador, DH, 20)
20. GUIDO, Juan Pablo (UBU-Colina Clinic, DH, 4)
21. MUNILLA, Tomás (Béziers, Pro D2, 5)
22. NUENO, Pierre (Pau, Top 14, 1)
23. TAIBO, Baltazar (VRAC Quesos Entrepinares, DH, uncapped)

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 20:03

GEO FOLKS asked me mid-week
about relegation from REC 2020

Answered that there would be a play-off,
as usual in recent years

Then checked the MANUAL and discovered that
RE had deleted certain paras from previous versions

* 102 page long MANUAL 2017-18 had it @ p 11-12 as paras 2.2.1-3

** DITTO for MANUAL 2018-19 whereas

*** 94 page long, revamped MANUAL 2019-20 has only this *wisdom* @ p 9

A pathway exists to either move up or move down from one division to another one,
to accompany the evolution of teams’ performances,
details on this process being determined by Rugby Europe General Assembly on a yearly basis
according to the needs of the competition and the number of participating teams.


# all three docs should still be available at RE site -- if NOT I can upload on my server

ANY THOUGHTS | ASSUMPTIONS about what's going on:
this year is it DIRECT promotion-relegation or via BARRAGE?

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Chester-Donnelly » Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 20:19

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:GEO FOLKS asked me mid-week
about relegation from REC 2020

Answered that there would be a play-off,
as usual in recent years

Then checked the MANUAL and discovered that
RE had deleted certain paras from previous versions

* 102 page long MANUAL 2017-18 had it @ p 11-12 as paras 2.2.1-3

** DITTO for MANUAL 2018-19 whereas

*** 94 page long, revamped MANUAL 2019-20 has only this *wisdom* @ p 9

A pathway exists to either move up or move down from one division to another one,
to accompany the evolution of teams’ performances,
details on this process being determined by Rugby Europe General Assembly on a yearly basis
according to the needs of the competition and the number of participating teams.


# all three docs should still be available at RE site -- if NOT I can upload on my server

ANY THOUGHTS | ASSUMPTIONS about what's going on:
this year is it DIRECT promotion-relegation or via BARRAGE?

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I do know there are plans to expand REC to 8 teams, so maybe there will be no relegation this season.

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Re: Rugby Europe International Championships 2019-2020

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 20:37

2020 Rugby Europe Competitions Calendar released last week stated there will be a promotion/relegation playoff game in June or July:
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/sites/defaul ... _19-20.pdf

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