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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Canalina » Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 11:03

Maybe (just maybe) they could implement the series with a more complex structure, to involve more teams limiting a bit the costs per nation
In this way, for example...: six tournaments, ideally one in every continent, 16 teams per tournament, but every core team have to take part just to four tournaments.
Six tournaments x 16 teams = 96 teams. Let's say eighteen core teams: 18 x 4 tournaments = 72 teams. So there's room for 24 invitational spots, distributed in the various tournaments: four invitations per tournament.
So, in everyone of the six tournaments we would have 12 out of the eighteen core teams plus 4 invited teams, ideally from the same continent. One invited team could play in more than one tournament, but not more than two.
At the end of the circuit the team with the bigger amount of points conquered in its four tournaments wins the promotion.
Maybe it would be more wise to give two promotions, letting two teams relegated from the World Series

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 12:01

Canalina wrote:Maybe (just maybe) they could implement the series with a more complex structure, to involve more teams limiting a bit the costs per nation
In this way, for example...: six tournaments, ideally one in every continent, 16 teams per tournament, but every core team have to take part just to four tournaments.
Six tournaments x 16 teams = 96 teams. Let's say eighteen core teams: 18 x 4 tournaments = 72 teams. So there's room for 24 invitational spots, distributed in the various tournaments: four invitations per tournament.
So, in everyone of the six tournaments we would have 12 out of the eighteen core teams plus 4 invited teams, ideally from the same continent. One invited team could play in more than one tournament, but not more than two.
At the end of the circuit the team with the bigger amount of points conquered in its four tournaments wins the promotion.
Maybe it would be more wise to give two promotions, letting two teams relegated from the World Series


I like the idea of guest teams and I also think that two promotions make way more sense, but dislike that core teams would not play in every tournament. If this could ever be sold to a broadcaster, how would that work, if your nation is not playing in 1/3 of the tournaments?
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Canalina » Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 19:30

Montevideo day 1 live stream, for the not-southamerican countries


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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 12:16

Good news: German squad will possibly only have one change for the tournament this saturday (well tbh there are only have 14 players in SA, so more than 2 changes wouldn't even be possible).

No injuries, but Leon Hees was apparently a bit sick this week. Zani Dembele could replace him and he's a really exciting guy (under contract at Castres Olympique).

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 16:55

I will probably watch no matches, as I'll be on holiday with friends.

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby germanbullsfan » Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 17:48

Ok, then i will watch for you! ;)

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Canalina » Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 13:55

The link I posted yesterday was wrong, it was the sunday's one. Today live is here


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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby 4N » Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 15:09

Italy with an impressive 35-12 win over Zimbabwe.

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Edgar » Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 15:15

4N wrote:Italy with an impressive 35-12 win over Zimbabwe.


Italy have been one of the big improvers since the first-up loss to Uganda in Vina del Mar. Not surprising, given they're the only tier 1 nation involved. So much untapped potential and hopefully they can begin to unearth some talented game-breakers able to make the transition to XVs. That's what these tournaments are all about, of course. :thumbup:

Uganda meanwhile, seem to have gone in the opposite direction - right now looking woeful against Jamaica and lucky they're only down by 5 at the break.
10-0 Jamaica it finished :oops:

Spectators as sparse as they were in Chile too. I'm watching Los Condores play Portugal at the mo. 14-5 HT. 14-10 FT.

Kudos to World Rugby for giving all these teams a chance to shine in the spotlight anyway. Zimbabwe-Paraguay was quite an entertaining match. Sables got to show off their pace and skills, while Los Yacares managed to score a couple themselves. 31-12.

Japan too good for Italy 26-12.

PNG just threw away a match-winning try on fulltime against Mexico. Los Serpientes hang on for a 17-12 win against a disappointing Pukpuks.

Germany too good for Uruguay 26-10.

Tonga needs a late try to sink 6-man Chile. The South Americans had a man sent off for a shoulder charge late in the first half.

I think we'll see Germany up against Japan or Hong Kong in the final

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby 4N » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 00:14

QF:

Germany vs Chile
Japan vs Jamaica
Tonga vs Uruguay
Hong Kong vs Italy

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby victorsra » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 01:51

I believe after day 1 we already have 5 teams qualified for the final tournament: Germany, Japan, Hong Kong, Chile and Tonga. These are the teams that made it to the QFs in both Viña and Montevideo.

The last 3 spots are between Italy, Uruguay, Jamaica, Uganda, Zimbabwe and PNG. Let's see how far they go.

Portugal and Brazil are already out.
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Edgar » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 15:23

Great start to day 2: Brazil seemed on course for an upset with some heroic defence against Zimbabwe, but the Sables struck twice in the last couple of minutes to clinch a 21-15 win. Still, that was one of the Tupis' best games in this series so far, from what I've seen. :thumbup:

Now PNG holds on for a 19-17 win over Portugal. Surely an upset. Last time I watched Pukpuks they lost to Mexico! :shock:

Still little sign of fans in the stands, however. :cry: Hopefully it builds up as the play-offs get underway later.

& now Chile stuns Germany in the quarters! :shock:
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 16:39

Chile downs Germany and Challenger Series are now wide open...

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby victorsra » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 16:42

Edgar wrote:Great start to day 2: Brazil seemed on course for an upset with some heroic defence against Zimbabwe, but the Sables struck twice in the last couple of minutes to clinch a 21-15 win. Still, that was one of the Tupis' best games in this series so far, from what I've seen. :thumbup:

Now PNG holds on for a 19-17 win over Portugal. Surely an upset. Last time I watched Pukpuks they lost to Mexico! :shock:

Still little sign of fans in the stands, however. Hopefully it builds up as the play-offs get underway later.


Yes. Too young squad. We need to start forming a real sevens squad and this might be the proper start. Despite de results, the idea behind is not bad.
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby victorsra » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 18:47

So, how are the maths now for the Top 8?

I believe Uruguay joined as the 6th qualified for the final tournament.
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Canalina » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 19:27

If it may help you in the calculations

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 19:28

I doubt there will be a HK tournament if Japan wins it.
As HK was now also surprisingly eliminated by Italy, everything should go Japan's way.
Only other team with a chance now is Germany, but only if Chile beats Japan. If Japan finishes 3rd and Germany 5th, Germany is still in the lead.
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby victorsra » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 19:35

WR published they are studying the venue. Might not be HK, but they'd find a new place.

If Uganda beats Zimbabwe in the 9th place match and Italy finishes 5th, Italy, Uganda and Zimbabwe would be tied with 19 points. What's is the tiebreak?
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Canalina » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 19:44

They should count the points difference

Sorry to repeat always the same thing but spectators remain a weakness in the T2 world of 7s: when you go out of the main World Series stages you see only almost-empty stadiums

The game vs Tonga will be determinant for Italy: they lose and they are out, they win and they get good chances to go to the third stage

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Canalina » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 20:26

I'd say Germany, Hong Kong, Japan, Chile, Tonga and Uruguay between the Top8
The last two names for a possible third stage will come from Zimbabwe, Uganda and Italy

Out: Jamaica, Papua Guinea, Portugal, Brazil

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby victorsra » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 20:56

TBH, some ARC and Nations Cup matches at the Charrua are that way...
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby 4N » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 21:10

4N wrote:Uruguay had some good moments over the weekend. It will be interesting to see how they do with home field advantage in Montevideo.


Uruguay into the final!

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Canalina » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 23:22

Final ranking to me before the final game, but I could have made some mistakes

1 Giappone (36 or 39)
2 Hong Kong 36
3 Germania 35
4 Cile 30
5 Uruguay (27 or 30)
6 Tonga 24
7 Uganda 19
8 Zimbabwe 19

9 ITALIA 18
10 Giamaica 17
11 Papua Guinea 16
12 Portogallo 9
13 Colombia 9
14 Messico 4
15 Brasile 4
16 Paraguay 4

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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby victorsra » Sun, 23 Feb 2020, 23:33

Uganda and Zimbabwe in the final round.

Top8 by continent:
2 Asia
2 South America
2 Africa
1 Oceania
1 Europe
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Re: 7s Challenger Series

Postby Pichulonko » Mon, 24 Feb 2020, 00:19

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Hong Kong Sevens

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Uruguay
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Hong Kong
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