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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 13:02

After the confirmation that Ford stays as the german national coach, the next breaking news about German rugby.

Apparently Robert Mohr is apparently to get fired at Stade Francais. If my school french is good enough, a fight between Mohr and Heyneke Meyer broke out and Wild had to decide between them. He chose the South African and they started the process of firing Mohr and Dispuy.

As Mohr was one of the key guys in the DRV vs. Wild dispute and very close to Wild, that's a huge and unexpected step.

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/top-14/2 ... tory.shtml
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Re: German rugby

Postby Tobar » Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 13:10

Wow, didn’t think he’d come back. He’s apparently still slated for the Dallas MLR steam in 2021 (which changed owners to the longtime GM of the Mavericks).

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Re: German rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 15:17

Tobar wrote:Wow, didn’t think he’d come back. He’s apparently still slated for the Dallas MLR steam in 2021 (which changed owners to the longtime GM of the Mavericks).


2020 is the word, but seen nothing yet. So dunno.

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Re: German rugby

Postby Tobar » Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 19:06

Yeah, sorry meant 2020. I honestly don’t know what year it is anymore.

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 11:44

Full German squad for the REC 2019

BSC Offenbach: Wynston Cameron-Dow
Heidelberger RK: Jörn Schröder, Dasch Barber, Sean Armstrong, Steffen Liebig, Felix Lammers
RK 03 Berlin: Falk Duwe
RSV Köln: Morne Laubscher
SC Frankfurt 1880: Michael Poppmeier, Marcel Henn, Raynor Parkinson, Samy Füchsel, Marcel Becker, Jens Listmann, Elias Haase, Lukas Deichmann
SC Neuenheim: Oliver Paine
TSV Handschuhsheim: Jaco Otto, Nikolai Klewinghaus, Marcel Coetzee, Marcus Bender, Eden Syme, Felix Martel, Sebastian Kössler
TV Pforzheim: Lee Murray
Aberdeen Wanderers RFC (SCO): Matthias Schösser
Bridgend Ravens RFC (WAL): Jamie Murphy
CSM Bucharesti (ROM): Jarrid Els, Hagen Schulte
Doncaster RFC (ENG): Toby Williams
Houston Sabercats (USA): Ayron Schramm
Southern Kings (RSA): Kurt Haupt
Raiders Worthing RFC (ENG): Jonathon Dawe
RC Vannes (FRA): Tim Menzel, Chris Hilsenbeck
Rotherham Titans RC (ENG): Anthony Dickinson, Mark Fairhurst
SO Chambery (FRA): Sebastian Ferreira
Stade Aurilliacois CA (FRA): Julius Nostadt
Stade Dijonais (FRA): Harris Aounallah, Oti Kafotamaki
Stade Francais (FRA): Emil Rupf
Stade Nicois (FRA): Mika Tyumenev, Julien Fritz
Stade Rochelais (FRA): Eric Marks
UC Carcassonne (FRA): Maxime Oltmann

List of matches:
09.02.2019 – 15 Uhr (CET): Belgien vs Deutschland (in Brüssel)
16.02.2019 – 13 Uhr (CET): Rumänien vs Deutschland (in Botosani)
02.03.2019 – 15 Uhr (CET): Deutschland vs Russland (in Heidelberg)
10.03.2019 – 11 Uhr (CET): Georgien vs Deutschland (in Kutaisi)
17.03.2019 – 13 Uhr (CET): Deutschland vs Spanien (in Köln)

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https://www.rugby-verband.de/gesamtkade ... nominiert/
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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 12:33

Missing players from the repechage:
Heidelberger RK: Timo Vollenkemper
Pforzheim: Carlos Sorteras-Merz
CA Lannemezan (FRA): Mathieu Ducau
Don't know about Vollenkemper and Ducau. Sorteras-Merz is in the 7s lineup.

Players who missed out on the repechage, but played for Germany before
Heidelberger RK: Felix Lammers
RK 03 Berlin: Falk Duwe
RSV Köln: Morne Laubscher
TSV Handschuhsheim: Marcus Bender, Felix Martel
Rotherham Titans RC (ENG): Mark Fairhurst
UC Carcassonne (FRA): Maxime Oltmann
SC Frankfurt 1880: Elias Haase

New players
TSV Handschuhsheim: Eden Syme, Sebastian Kössler
SC Frankfurt 1880: Marcel Becker, Jens Listmann, Lukas Deichmann (not sure if Becker played in the REC 2018)
TV Pforzheim: Lee Murray
Doncaster RFC (ENG): Toby Williams
Stade Dijonais (FRA): Oti Kafotamaki
Stade Francais (FRA): Emil Rupf
Stade Nicois (FRA): Julien Fritz


Syme, Williams and Fritz qualify on heritage. Kafotamaki was born in Berlin. Syme has played 45 games for the South Sydney Rabbitohs U20 in 2014 and 2015. Rupf is an 18-year-old who was just recently signed by Stade Francais from Frankfurt 1880. He also went to play a bit in New Zealand with Anton Segner (who now played for New Zealand Schools team). Lee Murray qualifies through the 3-year-rule.
Rest are home grown.

Edited after Raven's additions.
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Re: German rugby

Postby Raven » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 13:31

RugbyLiebe wrote:Missing players from the repechage:
Heidelberger RK: Timo Vollenkemper
Pforzheim: Carlos Sorteras-Merz
CA Lannemezan (FRA): Mathieu Ducau
Don't know about Vollenkemper and Ducau. Sorteras-Merz is in the 7s lineup.

Players who missed out on the repechage, but played for Germany before
Heidelberger RK: Felix Lammers
RK 03 Berlin: Falk Duwe
RSV Köln: Morne Laubscher
TSV Handschuhsheim: Marcus Bender, Felix Martel
Rotherham Titans RC (ENG): Mark Fairhurst
UC Carcassonne (FRA): Maxime Oltmann

New players
TSV Handschuhsheim: Eden Syme, Sebastian Kössler
SC Frankfurt 1880: Marcel Becker, Jens Listmann, Elias Haase, Lukas Deichmann (not sure if Becker played in the REC 2018)
TV Pforzheim: Lee Murray
Doncaster RFC (ENG): Toby Williams
Stade Dijonais (FRA): Oti Kafotamaki
Stade Francais (FRA): Emil Rupf
Stade Nicois (FRA): Julien Fritz


Syme, Williams, Kafotamaki and Fritz qualify on heritage. Syme has played 45 games for the South Sydney Rabbitohs U20 in 2014 and 2015. Rupf is an 18-year-old who was just recently signed by Stade Francais from Frankfurt 1880. He also went to play a bit in New Zealand with Anton Segner (who now played for New Zealand Schools team). Lee Murray qualifies through the 3-year-rule.
Rest are home grown.


Great summary. Just one addition, Elias Haase played in the REC 2018. * Edit: second note, Kafotamaki was apparently born in Berlin, as his father was based there -in the military-

TotalRugby had unvieled a different list of players, or better said, gave a list of players that had some other names on it too. Also mentioned a friendly with Netherlands as preparation to the Belgium game. But I suppose there no better source than the German Rugby Union that issues the call-ups.

Unlikely that we see the BEST German team on any of the REC games, but at least there has been some ground work done looking for alternatives for when the time comes aim as high as possible. Rupf might be a pleasent surprise, he has a brother who went to NZ with him too. Dembele (who I believe is also in the 7s team set up now) and Luis Ball might be the only names missing in what appears to be the pool of players that can add something to the German National Team.
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Re: German rugby

Postby rey200 » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 13:47

doesn't sound that bad, right?
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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 14:14

Raven wrote:Great summary. Just one addition, Elias Haase played in the REC 2018. * Edit: second note, Kafotamaki was apparently born in Berlin, as his father was based there -in the military-


Thanks for the clarification. Will edit in my text.

Raven wrote:TotalRugby had unvieled a different list of players, or better said, gave a list of players that had some other names on it too.

That was a list of the German based players (and those only) to prepare in Heidelberg for a longer period of time for the REC.

Raven wrote:Unlikely that we see the BEST German team on any of the REC games, but at least there has been some ground work done looking for alternatives for when the time comes aim as high as possible. Rupf might be a pleasent surprise, he has a brother who went to NZ with him too. Dembele (who I believe is also in the 7s team set up now) and Luis Ball might be the only names missing in what appears to be the pool of players that can add something to the German National Team.


I agree. Especially the French based guys will never be there for all 5 games. I expect to see the strongest outfit against Belgium and Spain and the weakest against Georgia and maybe Romania as nearly every year (2017 was a massive exception were they actually aimed for the win against Romania)
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Re: German rugby

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 19:12

JUST UPDATED -- PENDING CONFIRMATION FROM DRV & RE

10.03.2019 – 13 Uhr (CET): Georgien vs Deutschland (in Kutaisi)

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 07:41

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:JUST UPDATED -- PENDING CONFIRMATION FROM DRV & RE

10.03.2019 – 13 Uhr (CET): Georgien vs Deutschland (in Kutaisi)


Makes a lot of sense. I reckon it was a typo. 11:00 CET means 8 am in Georgia....
So 13:00 makes a lot more sense (Still extremely early with 10 am in Georgia)


Apart from that I searched for Otilo Kafotamaki on google. Apparently he has New Caledonian heritage. :shock: As exotic as it gets.
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Re: German rugby

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 08:49

Time-wise GEO is AHEAD of GER -- closer to FAR EAST

11:00 CET meant 14.00 GEO
13:00 CET means 16.00 GEO

The game is on Sunday

It was not a typo but a RE's assumption

Then GEO sent a counter-proposal and now is waiting for approval

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Re: German rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 09:08

Why the need to play the game at the very same day and hour as Spain v Belgium?

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Re: German rugby

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 09:19

I assume nobody checked that -- REIC is a Holy Mess

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Re: German rugby

Postby vino_93 » Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 10:00

RugbyLiebe wrote:
FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:JUST UPDATED -- PENDING CONFIRMATION FROM DRV & RE

10.03.2019 – 13 Uhr (CET): Georgien vs Deutschland (in Kutaisi)


Makes a lot of sense. I reckon it was a typo. 11:00 CET means 8 am in Georgia....
So 13:00 makes a lot more sense (Still extremely early with 10 am in Georgia)


Apart from that I searched for Otilo Kafotamaki on google. Apparently he has New Caledonian heritage. :shock: As exotic as it gets.


There is probably not that much New Caledonians in Germany, but rugby is developping very well there and other French islands Wallis & Futuna.
French federation & clubs invest a lot there, and many youths players are pros now. You'll see more of them in the coming years.

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 12:21

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:Time-wise GEO is AHEAD of GER -- closer to FAR EAST


Sorry, you are, off course, correct.
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Re: German rugby

Postby Caledor » Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 14:56

A decent squad and hopefully Germany can put out their strongest match day squad particularly in the backs. It will be good to see Hagen Schulte getting more regular game time as the okie has been ravaged by injury in the last year.

Other notable players to mention with German passports who could have added to Germany National set up is lock Cameron Lindsay who plays professionally in South Africa. Not been able to commit for various reasons. Another player is a prop named Andrew Peverelle. He is 20 or 21. Played for a top school in South Africa and played for Natal Sharks schools in the national provincial craven week in his final year in high school. He is now playing at Hartpury college in England I think but not sure how well he is progressing. Anyone know of any other potential cracking German eligible players?

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Re: German rugby

Postby 4N » Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 17:10

vino_93 wrote:There is probably not that much New Caledonians in Germany, but rugby is developping very well there and other French islands Wallis & Futuna.
French federation & clubs invest a lot there, and many youths players are pros now. You'll see more of them in the coming years.


I’m sure you know this but for those who don’t - the pro players coming out of NC all have Wallis & Futuna roots. There are more of them in NC than their homeland. The native NC Kanaks mainly play soccer.

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 15:53

The Wild saga continues. According to Le Parisien he thinks about selling Stade Francais.
Totalrugby has a piece on the French article.

Sources:
http://m.leparisien.fr/sports/rugby/cri ... 997178.php

http://www.totalrugby.de/content/view/9731/36/

One of the first comments on this was, if this might actually be a sign that he gets involved more in German Rugby again. The new German president and former Adidas CFO Robin Stalker should be a man he respects.
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Re: German rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 27 Jan 2019, 05:18

RugbyLiebe wrote:The Wild saga continues. According to Le Parisien he thinks about selling Stade Francais.
Totalrugby has a piece on the French article.

Sources:
http://m.leparisien.fr/sports/rugby/cri ... 997178.php

http://www.totalrugby.de/content/view/9731/36/

One of the first comments on this was, if this might actually be a sign that he gets involved more in German Rugby again. The new German president and former Adidas CFO Robin Stalker should be a man he respects.


They're fourth in the Top14 and he's getting mad? Geeze.

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Re: German rugby

Postby germanbullsfan » Sun, 27 Jan 2019, 17:01

Le Parisien ist pro Racing 92 orientated , so i wouldnt take this to much serious !

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 29 Jan 2019, 08:16

Here is Wild's denial.

"I've read the speculations that I want to sell Stade Francais. That's absolutely ridiculous"

https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites ... ixu5GwZfMg
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Re: German rugby

Postby suofficer » Tue, 29 Jan 2019, 09:35

I see Adam Preocanin is still playing for Old Elthamians in National 1. They are very much looking like a side who are going to get promoted and he seems to be featuring a lot.

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Re: German rugby

Postby NedRugby » Tue, 29 Jan 2019, 12:16

Germany is playing Netherlands in Amsterdam this coming Friday. Is there any news about the team? I guess it could be experimental.

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Re: German rugby

Postby Raven » Tue, 29 Jan 2019, 14:10

NedRugby wrote:Germany is playing Netherlands in Amsterdam this coming Friday. Is there any news about the team? I guess it could be experimental.


These are the players called up for that test

BSC Offenbach: Wynston Cameron-Dow
Hannover 78: Rafael Pyrasch
Heidelberger RK: Jörn Schröder, Dash Barber, Sean Armstrong, Steffen Liebig, Felix Lammers, Timo Vollenkemper
RK03 Berlin: Falk Duwe
SC Frankfurt 1880: Marcel Becker, Jens Listmann, Michael Poppmeier, Raynor Parkinson, Samy Füchsel, Lukas Deichmann, Elias Haase
SC Neuenheim: Senzo Ngubane
TSV Handschuhsheim: Jaco Otto, Marcus Bender, Paul Schüle, Felix Martel, Nikolai Klewinghaus, Marcel Coetzee, Eden Syme, Sebastian Kössler, Atu Katoa
TV Pforzheim: Lee Murray

A few of them are featured on the extended squad that could get called to play in the REC, and no foreign based players here.

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