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Re: German rugby

Postby Figaro » Mon, 06 Nov 2017, 15:55

The way they get around it at the moment is that the RFU pay money to the clubs to include a certain percentage of English qualified players in their matchday squads over the year. From what I can tell this seems to get around employment laws by not directly affecting individuals nor directly banning anyone, even if in practice it motivates people to stay English-qualified, even if they have no hope of making the national side. You're right in that Brexit would let them tighten up those laws some more if they wanted, but I doubt they would as the £££ of the clubs will speak.

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Re: German rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 06 Nov 2017, 17:51

Any information about Brazil vs Germany being broadcasted on TV/internet?
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Re: German rugby

Postby zapf321 » Mon, 06 Nov 2017, 18:09

victorsra wrote:Any information about Brazil vs Germany being broadcasted on TV/internet?


A few days ago it was announced on DAZN. But meanwhile this has dissappeared. Now it seems to be shown on Sport1.de as shown below.

Source:http://www.totalrugby.de/content/view/9164/36/


Samstag 11. November, 15 Uhr Bruno-Plache-Stadion Leipzig Deutschland - Brasilien November Internationals Sport1.de / Sport1-Facebook

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Re: German rugby

Postby frakturfreak » Mon, 06 Nov 2017, 21:15

The games are only shown by Sport1 since someone at the marketing company of the German union seems to have fucked up.

Facebook post by German commentator Jan Lüddecke

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Re: German rugby

Postby amz » Wed, 08 Nov 2017, 14:46

German squad for November tests. Many new faces of apparently decent level:

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/1 ... ber-tests/

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 07:51

German lineup against Brazil:
1. Jörn Schröder
2. Dash Barber
3. Samy Füchsel
4. Michael Poppmeier
5. Eric Marks
6. Sebastian Ferreira
7. Jaco Otto
8. Ayron Schramm
9. Sean Armstrong
10. Raynor Parkinson
11. Pierre Mathurin
12. Wynston Cameron-Dow
13. Mathieu Dacau
14. Nikolai Klewinghaus
15. Marcel Coetzee
16. Gilles Valette
17. Anthony Dickinson
18. Julius Nostadt
19. Jarrid Els
20. Marcel Henn
21. Tim Menzel
22. Jamie Murphy
23. Steffen Liebig
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: German rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 13:25

Thread for the match viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1417
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Re: German rugby

Postby CM » Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 16:33

So the conflict between the Wild Rugby Academy and the DRV is still on going.
The team captains Armstrong and Poppmeier have announced that they and a part of the squad will go on strike for the game against Chile.
In their words they want this solved before the ENC.
Let's see how this will end.

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Re: German rugby

Postby cheesus » Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 16:50

do you have a link to the press conference, where they talked about that?
i was searching for it, but couldnt find it anywhere.

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Re: German rugby

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Re: German rugby

Postby cheesus » Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 18:14

thank you.

well...will be interesting to see, which kind of team they will put on the field then on saturday..

i hope, the drv reacts to that and gets this all sorted out already.

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Re: German rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 18:35

I was sent something about the German Rugby team not having a doctor present at the last match...

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Re: German rugby

Postby mulu » Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 21:00

bollocks. We had a team and a match day doctor.

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Re: German rugby

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Re: German rugby

Postby amz » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 11:06

So basically players are unhappy because DRV have DHL as new sponsor instead of CapriSun, this small strike being led by Heidelberger RK players.

This is interesting, I am curious if this is a signal of DHL looking to be involved more in T2 rugby long term because they started recently to sponsor a grass root project in Romania. :!:

LE: sponsoring a local project such as this is first time I heard, it is made without FRR involvement and a rarity among all foreign corporations from here.
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Re: German rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 11:10

And they sponsor Canada.

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Re: German rugby

Postby rey200 » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 11:20

and of course the Stormers SR side

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 11:50

amz wrote:So basically players are unhappy because DRV have DHL as new sponsor instead of CapriSun, this small strike being led by Heidelberger RK players.


I think things are little bit more complicated, but what you wrote above is indeed what makes things worse.
No matter what the outcome is: this is a catastrophy for German rugby in general. Really hope that the DRV and Wild will find a solution together and asap.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
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Re: German rugby

Postby amz » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 11:55

RugbyLiebe wrote:
amz wrote:So basically players are unhappy because DRV have DHL as new sponsor instead of CapriSun, this small strike being led by Heidelberger RK players.


I think things are little bit more complicated, but what you wrote above is indeed what makes things worse.
No matter what the outcome is: this is a catastrophy for German rugby in general. Really hope that the DRV and Wild will find a solution together and asap.


Probably more complicated than my summary, I'm sure. However, might this be just some sort of instrument of negotiation to gain some leverage and they will anyway come on field vs Chile?

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 12:00

amz wrote:
RugbyLiebe wrote:
amz wrote:So basically players are unhappy because DRV have DHL as new sponsor instead of CapriSun, this small strike being led by Heidelberger RK players.


I think things are little bit more complicated, but what you wrote above is indeed what makes things worse.
No matter what the outcome is: this is a catastrophy for German rugby in general. Really hope that the DRV and Wild will find a solution together and asap.


Probably more complicated than my summary, I'm sure. However, might this be just some sort of instrument of negotiation to gain some leverage and they will anyway come on field vs Chile?


Lets hope so. I honestly doubt it.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: German rugby

Postby suofficer » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 12:19

How likely is the fixture against Chile to happen and where will they get their players if it does?

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Re: German rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 13:59

suofficer wrote:How likely is the fixture against Chile to happen and where will they get their players if it does?


DRV statement said, that the 7s coaches Vuyo Zangqa and Clemens von Grumbkow take over for the game, as they don't expect a fast solution for this dispute.
The statement also says that the game definitely will be played.
http://www.rugby-verband.de/?p=12975

As Germany normally doesn't use the 7s players for 15s and basically all of them are not employed at Wild I could see those guys playing. From the player's nominated for the 3 games, if I'm not totally wrong, you could make a full team without the HRK/Wild players.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: German rugby

Postby vino_93 » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 14:12

I'm really sad to see how rugby is poorly managed everywhere. Wild should be happy to see DHL invest and help to promote the game.

He wants more exposure ? So let's try to launch a pro league in germany and neighbour countries... This will be his baby. DRV isn't.

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Re: German rugby

Postby CM » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 14:20

amz wrote:So basically players are unhappy because DRV have DHL as new sponsor instead of CapriSun, this small strike being led by Heidelberger RK players.

This is interesting, I am curious if this is a signal of DHL looking to be involved more in T2 rugby long term because they started recently to sponsor a grass root project in Romania. :!:

LE: sponsoring a local project such as this is first time I heard, it is made without FRR involvement and a rarity among all foreign corporations from here.


That is not quite the point. Basically all the national team players and some players from other clubs are employed by the WRA of Mr Wild, who also owns Capri sun. They basically took care of the whole 15 a side team for a while.
Now the contract with the DRV has run out and the relations are breaking down. The players got paid full time by the WRA in the expectation of training for the national side. But the amount of control the wra wants is apparently one of the issues.
Nothing is all that clear because both sides tend to go for grandstanding and suck at communication.
And the fact that most of this is intra-heidelberg makes it obscure.
The DRV and especially the heidelberg ad hannoverareas tend to go for weird intrigues and club feuds.
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Re: German rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 22 Nov 2017, 14:21

DHL sponsorship is the symptom of DRV-Wild tensions, not the syndrome. They already clashed last Summer during DRV General Assembly if I'm not mistaken.

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