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Re: USA Rugby

Postby welshdragon2000 » Tue, 05 Feb 2019, 09:44

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welshdragon2000 wrote:What do people think of Ruben de Haas so far? For me he’s showing that he’ll displace Shaun Davies very soon. I also heard that there’s another young scrum half, van Schalkwyk, in the squad. I was told that he’s usually seen as a fly half but he’s been listed as a scrum half. Could he potentially be a long term starter at fly half?
And then there’s young Harley Wheeler who was brought into the squad for the ARC. Looking forward to seeing how he gets on, Steve Lewis on Rugby wrap up was singing his praises.


Ruben De Haas will be the long term answer at Scrumhalf. There's another 9 that's playing in the MLR who was also called up for the ARC in Nick Boyer. He's a bit stockier than De Haas, but they're both tall 9s. Van Schalkwyck would be the smallest fly-half battling for a shot at a deep position. I think they wanted to bring him into camp to see what he can do but won't be capped.

Ruben De Haas grew up in Arkansas but is originally from RSA, he's playing in the Cheetahs Academy and will be making his debut in the Pro14 at some point. He's made a few travel squads but hasn't been named yet. If you've not see Nick Boyer, he can get after it as well. Ruben will likely replace Davies as the number one, Boyer comes in at number 2. Van Schalkwyck is an excellent 10, I've never seen him play 9.

Harley Wheeler is a pretty athletic wing that might get a shot during the ARC if we get any injuries.


Thanks, nice analysis. I know who to ask about USA rugby now lol

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Tue, 05 Feb 2019, 17:01

Six Nations: France - Wales: 126 k viewers on NBCSN
Six Nations: Scotland - Italy: 128 k viewers on NBCSN

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Tobar » Tue, 05 Feb 2019, 17:15

Where’d you get these numbers? Any idea on ENG-IRE? I’d imagine it’d be higher.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 05 Feb 2019, 19:22

Tobar wrote:Where’d you get these numbers? Any idea on ENG-IRE? I’d imagine it’d be higher.


I don't know about that...but Six Nations Rugby made it onto Saturday's top 150! http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/s ... -2019.html

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby rey200 » Tue, 05 Feb 2019, 19:29

Looks like that's the source. But I guess then its the England-Ireland game with 128k viewers?
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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Suiram » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 19:23

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MikeN wrote:Please excuse my ignorance and laziness at not looking it up myself but are any of the USA 7s side likely to play in the RWC?


Those guys? None of them have played Club XVs in years. Madison Hughes being parachuted into XVs camp under Mitch was horrible. Fish out of Water. Malon Al Jiboori left 7s Residency so he could play for the Raptors and work himself into the XVs squad. but geeze we've got wealth in the backrow.



Hughes, Iosefo, and Leuta got parachuted into the squad. I'd say Leuta was the only one that looked half way capable out on the wing.

Most of the 7s squad would project to back row or wing which are both positions where the Eagles have plenty of depth these days. The current set up seems to work. Guys spend a couple years doing 7s and decide whether to continue down that path or focus back on 15s.

On Harley Wheeler, he could have potential long term. He is bigger than his Life counterpart, Harley Davidson, but is similarly a contact-loving wing with great vision. Not sure about his kicking but definitely someone to keep an eye on. Watch the MCAA match to see what he can do against senior competition.

On the scrumhalves, agree with the general assessment that Davies may make way for De Haas sooner rather tahn later, while Boyer could eventually supplant Davies at #2 in the next RWC cycle. Still think Yungert will keep his name in contention, more likely for off-year ARC's, especially if his game management improves during his time in MLR. He is the same age as Boyer. At this point, Augspurger seems most likely to be playing wing or utility sub with so many options available.

Another name I havent heard recently, but had been very buzzy a year or two ago was Keanu Andrade at Cal. I thought I heard he was playing very well there, but assume we will all have to wait 4 years for him to finish at Cal before we see him outside of Cal matches.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby MikeN » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 19:49

MikeN wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
MikeN wrote:Please excuse my ignorance and laziness at not looking it up myself but are any of the USA 7s side likely to play in the RWC?


Those guys? None of them have played Club XVs in years. Madison Hughes being parachuted into XVs camp under Mitch was horrible. Fish out of Water. Malon Al Jiboori left 7s Residency so he could play for the Raptors and work himself into the XVs squad. but geeze we've got wealth in the backrow.


Thanks for your answers guys.


And further on these 7s guys, are they able to make a comfortable living off just playing 7s or are they doing other stuff off-season?

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 20:14

Suiram wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
MikeN wrote:Please excuse my ignorance and laziness at not looking it up myself but are any of the USA 7s side likely to play in the RWC?


Those guys? None of them have played Club XVs in years. Madison Hughes being parachuted into XVs camp under Mitch was horrible. Fish out of Water. Malon Al Jiboori left 7s Residency so he could play for the Raptors and work himself into the XVs squad. but geeze we've got wealth in the backrow.



Hughes, Iosefo, and Leuta got parachuted into the squad. I'd say Leuta was the only one that looked half way capable out on the wing.

Most of the 7s squad would project to back row or wing which are both positions where the Eagles have plenty of depth these days. The current set up seems to work. Guys spend a couple years doing 7s and decide whether to continue down that path or focus back on 15s.

On Harley Wheeler, he could have potential long term. He is bigger than his Life counterpart, Harley Davidson, but is similarly a contact-loving wing with great vision. Not sure about his kicking but definitely someone to keep an eye on. Watch the MCAA match to see what he can do against senior competition.

On the scrumhalves, agree with the general assessment that Davies may make way for De Haas sooner rather tahn later, while Boyer could eventually supplant Davies at #2 in the next RWC cycle. Still think Yungert will keep his name in contention, more likely for off-year ARC's, especially if his game management improves during his time in MLR. He is the same age as Boyer. At this point, Augspurger seems most likely to be playing wing or utility sub with so many options available.

Another name I havent heard recently, but had been very buzzy a year or two ago was Keanu Andrade at Cal. I thought I heard he was playing very well there, but assume we will all have to wait 4 years for him to finish at Cal before we see him outside of Cal matches.


Holden Yungert is quite en forme, I have no idea why he hasn't been given a shot. Maybe it's the civil war bear look...I mean Psalm Wooching cut his hair and then he got capped.

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And further on these 7s guys, are they able to make a comfortable living off just playing 7s or are they doing other stuff off-season?


Not really. They get help with housing or live in the Dormitory at the training center...however their wages are small. Our union is not like England or NZ.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby MikeN » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 20:29

Which makes their success even more remarkable. How do they get by then? Have they got part time jobs or sideline things going on?

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 20:41

A few of them have lucrative sponsorships.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 22:11

MikeN wrote:Which makes their success even more remarkable. How do they get by then? Have they got part time jobs or sideline things going on?


Carlin Isles is both a Nike and Red Bull Athlete. He's making some decent money. Madison Hughes is an ambassador or whatever you call it for Penn Mutual so that's a good check. But not sure of many others.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Thu, 07 Feb 2019, 14:05

Yes I take sports TV ratings frmo Showbuzz Daily.

NBCSN aired Scotland-Italy at 12:30 Eastern and Ireland-England at 2:30.

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