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Re: USA Rugby

Postby ihateblazers » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 00:03

Interesting that the Strikers are a new franchise rather than an established club. That should leave the competition with flexibility to select clubs. It will allow teams to be set up in Sacramento and Obetz Ohio as mentioned before if a group of backers were interested.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 04:37

ihateblazers wrote:Interesting that the Strikers are a new franchise rather than an established club. That should leave the competition with flexibility to select clubs. It will allow teams to be set up in Sacramento and Obetz Ohio as mentioned before if a group of backers were interested.


The Strikers will be an interesting case study when it comes to building out an entire organization from professional side to youth outreach.

Although they are not currently a club, did some digging awhile ago and they have an alumni base. The Strikers name is one of a defunct club that was in Houston.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby ihateblazers » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 08:20

TheStroBro wrote:
ihateblazers wrote:Interesting that the Strikers are a new franchise rather than an established club. That should leave the competition with flexibility to select clubs. It will allow teams to be set up in Sacramento and Obetz Ohio as mentioned before if a group of backers were interested.


The Strikers will be an interesting case study when it comes to building out an entire organization from professional side to youth outreach.

Although they are not currently a club, did some digging awhile ago and they have an alumni base. The Strikers name is one of a defunct club that was in Houston.


It could be a model to follow. It could possibly allow USA Rugby to decentralise the development pathways. They could offer elite coaching resources, facilities and possibly funding in the future. I don't think that an official academy​would be needed but a youth programme funneling through the schools and local clubs could eventually Morphy into one, in rugby you don't really need acadmies as long as the local schools and clubs are adequately run.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 11:24

ihateblazers wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
ihateblazers wrote:Interesting that the Strikers are a new franchise rather than an established club. That should leave the competition with flexibility to select clubs. It will allow teams to be set up in Sacramento and Obetz Ohio as mentioned before if a group of backers were interested.


The Strikers will be an interesting case study when it comes to building out an entire organization from professional side to youth outreach.

Although they are not currently a club, did some digging awhile ago and they have an alumni base. The Strikers name is one of a defunct club that was in Houston.


It could be a model to follow. It could possibly allow USA Rugby to decentralise the development pathways. They could offer elite coaching resources, facilities and possibly funding in the future. I don't think that an official academy​would be needed but a youth programme funneling through the schools and local clubs could eventually Morphy into one, in rugby you don't really need acadmies as long as the local schools and clubs are adequately run.


The pyramid model they've made public shows an intent to do something along those lines. It's something every one of the clubs involved should be doing. Looking to muster every High School and College club within their state or region under their banner. A way of doing this would be to actively run clinics for players and coaches alike focusing on skill and game development. Regular contact has a huge effect when drawing interest and support.

This would also include working with these clubs to develop action plans designed around growing their participation numbers.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby ihateblazers » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 15:03

Working Class Rugger wrote:

The pyramid model they've made public shows an intent to do something along those lines. It's something every one of the clubs involved should be doing. Looking to muster every High School and College club within their state or region under their banner. A way of doing this would be to actively run clinics for players and coaches alike focusing on skill and game development. Regular contact has a huge effect when drawing interest and support.

This would also include working with these clubs to develop action plans designed around growing their participation numbers.


http://www.thisisamericanrugby.com/2013 ... e.html?m=1

I knew that Houston rang a bell. I remember reading about this and it is a pretty similar concept. Same idea of collaborating with local clubs and schools. Should also add Rugby Utah as another franchise which is attempting something similar.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 19:10

Tony Ridnell‏ @tonyridnell

The moral crisis I face wrt my @TheRugbyChannel subscription is formidable. Feel obligated to support,but even for $5,what value?@USARugby


https://mobile.twitter.com/tonyridnell/ ... 1365210116

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 20:47

Fair to say I got it completely wrong about Rindell and USAR conspiring together to undermine PRO. Either that or he has had a recent falling out with them? If he is affiliated to the Major league project then he needs to be a bit more professional in his dealings with the union.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 23:42

Tony considers himself a change agent for USA Rugby. He wants our Union to move forward and on a sustainable path to grow the game and be a Tier 1 Nation.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby The Captain's Run » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 23:57

Bruce_ma_goose wrote:Fair to say I got it completely wrong about Rindell and USAR conspiring together to undermine PRO. Either that or he has had a recent falling out with them? If he is affiliated to the Major league project then he needs to be a bit more professional in his dealings with the union.


I don't think Ridnell is associated with MLR in any official way. He's essentially just a blogger, whose writing primarily consists of critiques and attempts to instigate change from USA Rugby. This isn't a falling out; it's par for the course.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Sun, 19 Mar 2017, 02:01

The Captain's Run wrote:
Bruce_ma_goose wrote:Fair to say I got it completely wrong about Rindell and USAR conspiring together to undermine PRO. Either that or he has had a recent falling out with them? If he is affiliated to the Major league project then he needs to be a bit more professional in his dealings with the union.


I don't think Ridnell is associated with MLR in any official way. He's essentially just a blogger, whose writing primarily consists of critiques and attempts to instigate change from USA Rugby. This isn't a falling out; it's par for the course.


Fairly certain while TR has a direct line to those behind the MLR he isn't actually associated with it.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Tue, 21 Mar 2017, 00:28

It's not just Ridnell speaking out. This is from the most famous American rugby coach in history probably, Cal-Berkeley's Jack Clark:

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 21 Mar 2017, 02:23

4N wrote:It's not just Ridnell speaking out. This is from the most famous American rugby coach in history probably, Cal-Berkeley's Jack Clark:

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https://m.facebook.com/tonyridnell/post ... 3902235528


Jack sounds a lot like my college coach, no confidence in the men who run USAR as it is just an old boys club. Same at the SRO level. In another sport Jack's voice would send tremors into the earth.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Tue, 21 Mar 2017, 15:51

RIM has been a huge failure. How many subscriptions to the Rugby Channel can they possibly have? And their handling of events so far underwhelms.

In more positive news, Taufete'e signs a long term deal with Worcester: http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/wr ... _Warriors/

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 21 Mar 2017, 20:45

Coloradoan wrote:RIM has been a huge failure. How many subscriptions to the Rugby Channel can they possibly have? And their handling of events so far underwhelms.

In more positive news, Taufete'e signs a long term deal with Worcester: http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/wr ... _Warriors/


Ridnell is quoting the subscription base at 7-8,000. Which doesn't cover the cost of licensing the 6N live, Aviva, or Super. Aviva's fee for broadcast here was $400k.

ETA: Notes on Collegiate Rugby Championships from Pat Clifton-http://www.rugbytoday.com/college/cliff-notes-thoughts-varsity-cup-d1a-utah-arizona-state

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 23 Mar 2017, 15:39

Local news profile on the Houston Strikers: http://www.chron.com/sports/article/Houston-rugby-league-looking-to-build-a-stadium-11019505.php

At the end of the article Turner notes that there are ten teams, who is the 10th team. And two more, if you get a southern west coast team that would be awesome.

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