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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Thu, 20 Apr 2017, 16:43

Right, but those large squad numbers also extend to the professional level, where football teams have much larger squads. Basketball players are also less likely to be physically broken (multiple concussions, shot knees, whatever else) than football players.

A few years back the AFL (the Australian kind) held a combine for potential basketball crossovers in LA. I'm not sure if that turned into an annual thing or not, but it's something USAR and/or MLR should look into either doing themselves or co-hosting with the AFL.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby sk 88 » Thu, 20 Apr 2017, 16:55

I believe Gorgadze and Castrogiovanni both converted from basketball around 16 too.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Thu, 20 Apr 2017, 17:06

Jerome Thion was in one of France's top basketball academies when Racing-Metro recruited him to play rugby.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 20 Apr 2017, 20:42

Coloradoan wrote:Right, but those large squad numbers also extend to the professional level, where football teams have much larger squads. Basketball players are also less likely to be physically broken (multiple concussions, shot knees, whatever else) than football players.

A few years back the AFL (the Australian kind) held a combine for potential basketball crossovers in LA. I'm not sure if that turned into an annual thing or not, but it's something USAR and/or MLR should look into either doing themselves or co-hosting with the AFL.


The AFL combine still happens from what I know. There was a big noise about a few guys who were brought over after impressing at the most recent event. All Basketballers.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Thu, 20 Apr 2017, 21:46

Working Class Rugger wrote:
Coloradoan wrote:Right, but those large squad numbers also extend to the professional level, where football teams have much larger squads. Basketball players are also less likely to be physically broken (multiple concussions, shot knees, whatever else) than football players.

A few years back the AFL (the Australian kind) held a combine for potential basketball crossovers in LA. I'm not sure if that turned into an annual thing or not, but it's something USAR and/or MLR should look into either doing themselves or co-hosting with the AFL.


The AFL combine still happens from what I know. There was a big noise about a few guys who were brought over after impressing at the most recent event. All Basketballers.


I think you could probably get even better attendance at the event if it was multi-sport. Maybe you get some guys who are mildly interested in rugby and end up being a better fit for AFL and vice versa. It could be a good thing for everyone involved.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Thu, 20 Apr 2017, 23:35

AFL is very much still invested in sourcing US talent, in fact they lifted age limit restrictions last year for foreign players. It use to be you could only sign someone under the age of 22 who was born outside the country.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 25 Apr 2017, 18:21

USAR apparently can't figure out how to crown a women's champion, so they took the regional losers and created a separate championship in Division 1: https://www.usarugby.org/2017/04/eight- ... emifinals/

ETA: Psalm Wooching waiting on PAU to make an offer-http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/19245453/why-psalm-wooching-chose-rugby-american-dream-nfl-draft

ETA1: MLR Fan survey is live- https://sdsubusiness.qualtrics.com/jfe/ ... rce=Austin

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby dropkick » Thu, 27 Apr 2017, 09:20

thatrugbyguy wrote:AFL is very much still invested in sourcing US talent, in fact they lifted age limit restrictions last year for foreign players. It use to be you could only sign someone under the age of 22 who was born outside the country.



One of our best prospects was signed up by an AFL club. Connor Nash is his name. A 6'6" tall fullback who was playing for Ireland U18s when he was 16 and creating a lot of hype.

Apparently Leinster academy couldn't compete with the money Hawthorn were offering so once he turned 18 he moved down under. He was also playing Gaelic football so there was 3 sports after him but i can see why he choose to go down under.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby honestly_united » Thu, 27 Apr 2017, 09:37

As Gaelic football and Aussie rules are quite similar are there a lot of irish players playing in Australia? I can see the appeal as (i am assuming they still are) Gaelic Football was strictly amateur

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 27 Apr 2017, 10:52

thatrugbyguy wrote:AFL is very much still invested in sourcing US talent, in fact they lifted age limit restrictions last year for foreign players. It use to be you could only sign someone under the age of 22 who was born outside the country.


So apart from the yearly Irish recruts from Gaelic football and the odd PNG player, has an AFL club actually signed someone from somewhere else? Hope they don't go the Rugby League route to have events just to pretend that they are an international sport.
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby dropkick » Thu, 27 Apr 2017, 12:26

honestly_united wrote:As Gaelic football and Aussie rules are quite similar are there a lot of irish players playing in Australia? I can see the appeal as (i am assuming they still are) Gaelic Football was strictly amateur



They have scouts here and hold trials etc. I don't know any numbers though but probably a dozen or two if i was to guess. Yeah Gaelic football is amateur so I'm sure many lads would jump at the chance to move down under.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Thu, 27 Apr 2017, 12:34

RugbyLiebe wrote:
thatrugbyguy wrote:AFL is very much still invested in sourcing US talent, in fact they lifted age limit restrictions last year for foreign players. It use to be you could only sign someone under the age of 22 who was born outside the country.


So apart from the yearly Irish recruts from Gaelic football and the odd PNG player, has an AFL club actually signed someone from somewhere else? Hope they don't go the Rugby League route to have events just to pretend that they are an international sport.


Former Canadian Rugby international Mike Pike.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 28 Apr 2017, 23:28

The attached links I've written extensively and discuss the need to re-align collegiate rugby to aid in developing an Elite Collegiate Rugby Pathway for the Men's and Women's Eagles XVs.

https://youtu.be/ybcXZ1CQ-3c

http://thestrobro.blogspot.com/2017/04/ ... nance.html

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Re: USA Rugby

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Sun, 30 Apr 2017, 12:57

jservuk wrote:Just an interesting read.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/gu ... -football/


Cricket is dying out in the West Indies and being replaced by soccer and American sports, particularly basketball. National and regional pastimes can be more fluid than the article suggests. It puts undue focus on the football codes in Australia. It actually reads like a primer for the uninitiated. But it doesn't prove that new sports can't be successfully introduced.

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