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Re: USA Rugby

Postby speculumfight » Fri, 13 Oct 2017, 21:28

TheStroBro wrote:Speculumfight,

NBC will have three matches of the 6N live on the peacock, and an additional match on NBCSN, they will be promoting that, especially the ENG V IRE match on St Patrick's day. All three matches per week will be on NBC Sports Gold. You have to remember that NBC isn't responsible to you or I, they're responsible to the shareholders of Comcast.


The original question is about promoting Eagles players what does 6N have to do with that?
It's BS to say they are not responsible to me. If they want my $60 for Sports Gold or $100 (or whatever it will be) for RWC19 then why can't I express what I would like to see?
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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 14 Oct 2017, 04:21

Promoting the sport of Rugby. NBC currently does not hold the broadcast rights of the Eagles, so why would they promote them? RIM has basically chosen not to have a broadcast partner and because of that it's burning through cash. This is about the growth of Rugby and like it or not, the Eagles aren't a brand for the non-rugby head. But England V. Ireland on the peacock will get the Sport recognitin.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby speculumfight » Sat, 14 Oct 2017, 06:27

TheStroBro wrote:Promoting the sport of Rugby. NBC currently does not hold the broadcast rights of the Eagles, so why would they promote them? RIM has basically chosen not to have a broadcast partner and because of that it's burning through cash. This is about the growth of Rugby and like it or not, the Eagles aren't a brand for the non-rugby head. But England V. Ireland on the peacock will get the Sport recognitin.


Uh, again. Look at the original topic. This isn't about promoting Rugby in the US in a general sense. It's specifically about Eagles players taking advantage of the space the USMNT is vacating since they did not qualify for the WC.
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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 14 Oct 2017, 17:24

I already addressed that. USA Rugby is not in position to exploit the gap due to poor governance for the past ten years. The current strategic vision put together does not allow the current CEO to exploit even a foot.

We need a better board.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Suiram » Sat, 14 Oct 2017, 18:58

Taufetee with a hat trick starting against brive

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby MLB3BB2 » Sun, 15 Oct 2017, 08:40

I'm disappointed that Cima isn't starting against Canada in the APC today. He'd benefit from more playing time, preferably at 10. Or is he considered an established Eagles player and coaches want to give developmental players more playing time in this tournament?

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby jservuk » Sun, 15 Oct 2017, 15:09

thatrugbyguy wrote:Questions for the US posters, is the mens soccer team failing to qualify for the world cup an opportunity for their rugby counterparts to make a bigger name for themselves?


Given that a big part of soccer's fan base comes from various sizeable Hispanic communities and kids love playing soccer, and Rugby is way behind MLS in having a established and stable league, I doubt it.

This is actually an opportunity for US Soccer to get its house in order. I believe they will.

What I like about soccer qualification is that with very few exceptions, qualification is hard fought for, and there are always a couple of big teams that miss out.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 15 Oct 2017, 18:44

CONCACAF Soccer qualification is built for the US and Mexico to just show up. Easierst part of the world to qualify. Unless there is a massive shift I'm unsure why anyone thinks the house will get in order.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Suiram » Tue, 17 Oct 2017, 02:36

MLB3BB2 wrote:I'm disappointed that Cima isn't starting against Canada in the APC today. He'd benefit from more playing time, preferably at 10. Or is he considered an established Eagles player and coaches want to give developmental players more playing time in this tournament?


I suspect they wanted to balanced time for the half backs. And seemed like a strategy to keep at Yungert with McCarthy and De Haas with Cima

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby SDyeti » Tue, 17 Oct 2017, 07:42

http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/jmurph ... -10-clash/

So what are the odds that we don't get Tony Lamborn for November? I imagine he's going to be sitting for a few weeks after this one.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Suiram » Tue, 17 Oct 2017, 12:11

Damn are there any more mitre 10 matches? Could easily get 4-6...hopefully durutalo is available as an alternative.

Edit: To add, I suspect Germihuys and Landry may both get looks on the Eagles tour in the back row. I think the logic with Landry is that he is just such a powerful runner and tackler while we still have other taller pure Lock options. I realize its less of a thing at the top levels, but it seems like by "saving his legs" at 6 he can be even more active around the pitch. Depends on who is available I guess, both back row and at lock. If Manoa or Peterson or available, I guess Landry goes to 6. Assuming Civetta gets the nod definitely, whereas Jensen or Brakeley are probably a step down from Landry.

Hanco is probably benefited by Mitchell's departure since he wanted him to focus on Hooker and it was clearly not ideal (there also isnt really a lack of options at Hookers now with Big Joe, Hilterbrand, and Malcolm all credible plus guys like Vorster. Question is whether Doland or Tameilau are considered for back row or at lock. My guess is Hanco has a chance to make the bench at least.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby MLB3BB2 » Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 11:50

Suiram wrote:
MLB3BB2 wrote:I'm disappointed that Cima isn't starting against Canada in the APC today. He'd benefit from more playing time, preferably at 10. Or is he considered an established Eagles player and coaches want to give developmental players more playing time in this tournament?


I suspect they wanted to balanced time for the half backs. And seemed like a strategy to keep at Yungert with McCarthy and De Haas with Cima

Maybe 12 is the best spot for Cima to get used to if we want him on with MacGinty when (if ever?) the team is at full strength. Scully, Teo and Hughes may be the main options at 15.
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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 13:49

MLB3BB2 wrote:
Suiram wrote:
MLB3BB2 wrote:I'm disappointed that Cima isn't starting against Canada in the APC today. He'd benefit from more playing time, preferably at 10. Or is he considered an established Eagles player and coaches want to give developmental players more playing time in this tournament?


I suspect they wanted to balanced time for the half backs. And seemed like a strategy to keep at Yungert with McCarthy and De Haas with Cima

Well in the end Cima did start - at 12, but in the original line-up I saw he was listed as coming off the bench. Maybe that's the best spot for him to get used to if we want him on with MacGinty when (if ever?) the team is at full strength. Scully, Teo and Hughes may be the main options at 15.

Hughes is definitely too small for XVs. And I don't think he's that good of a FB. Teo can hit like a train. Cima needs to add about 10lbs and I think he could be a very durable 15 for a long time.

When it comes to 7s players being a part of the XVs program, 7s is a talent ID mechanism. We need to move Tomasin, Unufe, Niua into a 15s set up so they can be effective.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby cardiffrcm » Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 18:44

Suiram wrote:Hanco is probably benefited by Mitchell's departure since he wanted him to focus on Hooker and it was clearly not ideal (there also isnt really a lack of options at Hookers now with Big Joe, Hilterbrand, and Malcolm all credible plus guys like Vorster.


Chad Gough could become the best of the lot

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 18:54

cardiffrcm wrote:
Suiram wrote:Hanco is probably benefited by Mitchell's departure since he wanted him to focus on Hooker and it was clearly not ideal (there also isnt really a lack of options at Hookers now with Big Joe, Hilterbrand, and Malcolm all credible plus guys like Vorster.


Chad Gough could become the best of the lot


Cardiff, can you give a list of uncapped guys you think will make an impact in an Eagles jersey? Thanks. Maybe even a few under 5 caps. :thumbup:

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby cardiffrcm » Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 19:47

4N wrote:
cardiffrcm wrote:
Suiram wrote:Hanco is probably benefited by Mitchell's departure since he wanted him to focus on Hooker and it was clearly not ideal (there also isnt really a lack of options at Hookers now with Big Joe, Hilterbrand, and Malcolm all credible plus guys like Vorster.


Chad Gough could become the best of the lot


Cardiff, can you give a list of uncapped guys you think will make an impact in an Eagles jersey? Thanks. Maybe even a few under 5 caps. :thumbup:


This is based purely on matches that I've seen:-

C.Melphy, H.Yungert, C.Wenglewski, C.Gough, V.Lee-Lo, Malon Al Jiboori & N.Ma'afu

Melphy has so much time on the ball, I presume he will have a year with the 7's squad. I was really impressed by Yungert against Uruguay & Canada; there will be opportunities at scrum half so he, De Haas and Boyer should feature.

The 5 forwards I list all have size and athleticism. Lee-Lo was a beast during PRO, the best scrummaging prop in the comp despite only being 21 at that time. Given the US's travails in this area it is a mystery why he doesn't get selected in any of the representative teams. Gough and Wenglewski are still at college and it will be an interesting to see how Ma'afu develops in Perpignan. AL Jiboori is now full time at Chula Vista, but with Clever's retirement there is no natural 6 replacement other than maybe Quill. He should get capped in the Autumn internationals, along with one of the scrum halves.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 20:10

Ok, was just interested to hear your thoughts. Agree Ma'afu looks solid.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Suiram » Fri, 20 Oct 2017, 02:18

TheStroBro wrote:
MLB3BB2 wrote:
Suiram wrote:
MLB3BB2 wrote:I'm disappointed that Cima isn't starting against Canada in the APC today. He'd benefit from more playing time, preferably at 10. Or is he considered an established Eagles player and coaches want to give developmental players more playing time in this tournament?


I suspect they wanted to balanced time for the half backs. And seemed like a strategy to keep at Yungert with McCarthy and De Haas with Cima

Well in the end Cima did start - at 12, but in the original line-up I saw he was listed as coming off the bench. Maybe that's the best spot for him to get used to if we want him on with MacGinty when (if ever?) the team is at full strength. Scully, Teo and Hughes may be the main options at 15.

Hughes is definitely too small for XVs. And I don't think he's that good of a FB. Teo can hit like a train. Cima needs to add about 10lbs and I think he could be a very durable 15 for a long time.

When it comes to 7s players being a part of the XVs program, 7s is a talent ID mechanism. We need to move Tomasin, Unufe, Niua into a 15s set up so they can be effective.


Agree except for Niua. He had his chance with a Glasgow. Probably could have become a solid 12 but at his age he will probably play out his time in 7s. He is a true specialist these days.

Also I disagree with Cima. He is still a 10 in my view. And the idea that 1 international caliber 10 is enough for the US is flawed. Top nations are top not because they have 1 great player for a position but because they have half a dozen. Considering Cima’s age he seems perfectly positioned to grow into the role

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby SDyeti » Fri, 20 Oct 2017, 04:08

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/wr ... says_Hogg/

Could the Eagles be getting Gold earlier than originally proposed?

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 20 Oct 2017, 17:56

Suiram wrote:
TheStroBro wrote:
MLB3BB2 wrote:
Suiram wrote:
MLB3BB2 wrote:I'm disappointed that Cima isn't starting against Canada in the APC today. He'd benefit from more playing time, preferably at 10. Or is he considered an established Eagles player and coaches want to give developmental players more playing time in this tournament?


I suspect they wanted to balanced time for the half backs. And seemed like a strategy to keep at Yungert with McCarthy and De Haas with Cima

Well in the end Cima did start - at 12, but in the original line-up I saw he was listed as coming off the bench. Maybe that's the best spot for him to get used to if we want him on with MacGinty when (if ever?) the team is at full strength. Scully, Teo and Hughes may be the main options at 15.

Hughes is definitely too small for XVs. And I don't think he's that good of a FB. Teo can hit like a train. Cima needs to add about 10lbs and I think he could be a very durable 15 for a long time.

When it comes to 7s players being a part of the XVs program, 7s is a talent ID mechanism. We need to move Tomasin, Unufe, Niua into a 15s set up so they can be effective.


Agree except for Niua. He had his chance with a Glasgow. Probably could have become a solid 12 but at his age he will probably play out his time in 7s. He is a true specialist these days.

Also I disagree with Cima. He is still a 10 in my view. And the idea that 1 international caliber 10 is enough for the US is flawed. Top nations are top not because they have 1 great player for a position but because they have half a dozen. Considering Cima’s age he seems perfectly positioned to grow into the role


There's a lot of 10s...I'd love to see Connor Mills called up to play for the Selects and then an Eagles Camp. He's a massive specimen, fast on the ball and can hit 50m kicks.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 28 Oct 2017, 18:48

Review of Dave Hodges selections for the Autumn Internationals training squad: https://youtu.be/aCaueET7MgY

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby sk 88 » Tue, 07 Nov 2017, 18:56

CBS (sort of ...) to broadcast Major League Rugby.

https://www.usmlr.com/news/cbs-sports-n ... s-with-mlr

Also team in San Diego ("Legion", what a shit name) seems on the cards now.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Tue, 07 Nov 2017, 19:06

It's not CBS. CBSSN has a good reach though. Available on most cable and streaming packages.

Legion sounds better than SaberCats to me.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby sk 88 » Tue, 07 Nov 2017, 19:16

Yes the nicknames are all a bit rubbish so far to be fair.

I know CBS SN isn't the main CBS but what is the major difference? I was in USA this summer and never really managed to get my head around how the TV channels worked!

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby 4N » Tue, 07 Nov 2017, 19:24

CBS is the main network (others are NBC, ABC, FOX). They each have specialist channels that show most of their sports content (CBSSN, NBC Sports, ESPN, FS1). In the old days, you just needed a TV antenna to pick up the four major networks but everything is digital now obviously. The sports networks are all pay TV, but these days there are some affordable options. You can get most of those channels for about $30/month now, compared to $100+ a few years ago, before OTT options came into play.

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