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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Thu, 11 May 2017, 21:37

NBCSN to broadcast the Ireland match live.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 12 May 2017, 02:22

Houston signed Charlie Hewitt, dude is a monster buried at lock in the English National team system and Worcester has even bigger giants coming up behind him that they let him go. He'll hit the ground for camp and be under the three year residency rule.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Fri, 12 May 2017, 19:21

Summer squad announced. Oof. Lots of players missing. Manoa, Scully, Peterson, Palamo and Ngwenya. Fry also not there but he may have retired from the national team?

https://www.usarugby.org/2017/05/mens-e ... is-summer/

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby cardiffrcm » Fri, 12 May 2017, 20:11

Coloradoan wrote:Summer squad announced. Oof. Lots of players missing. Manoa, Scully, Peterson, Palamo and Ngwenya. Fry also not there but he may have retired from the national team?

https://www.usarugby.org/2017/05/mens-e ... is-summer/


Manoa and Scully injured, Fry has been out of favour some time. The other three are a surprise; maybe Mitch is getting frustrated by them picking and choosing when they are available?

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Fri, 12 May 2017, 20:20

Palamo and Peterson are injured. Not sure about Ngwenya.

I wonder if we will see MacGinty used as a 12 as he was in the ARC.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby cardiffrcm » Fri, 12 May 2017, 20:41

Coloradoan wrote:Palamo and Peterson are injured. Not sure about Ngwenya.

I wonder if we will see MacGinty used as a 12 as he was in the ARC.


I hope not, but Eloff's exclusion might suggest this as a strong possibility. Kiwi's have always loved a 2nd 5-eighth (with good reason).

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 12 May 2017, 22:20

Also no James Bird, which is interesting. But he comes off of a busted appendix and may not be at the fitness level Mitch desires after an season with Old Blue.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Suiram » Mon, 15 May 2017, 19:03

All the big missing players are injury related except Ngwenya. But he could very easily be retired from internationals or at least avoiding any loss of earnings at the end of his club career. A bit surprising still as do not seem that deep at wing. I'd guess first choice wings are Teo and Hume since Brache was commented as being focused on center. I guess another pure winger is a bit of a waste when Brache, Augsperger and Matyas are also proven as capable wingers while Ngwenya is really a specialist.

Some great younger forwards in the mix too which is important as long as they can succeed at this level. A lot of fitness-oriented selections as everyone keeps mentioning.

With MacGinty, maybe putting the best backline available on the pitch means getting Cima or Magie in at 10. that would fit with the goal of having a 2nd 5/8. At the same time, I would think some combo of Campbell, Brache, & Iosefo would be a pretty exciting center pairing although none are great distributors.

May see a few experiments, especially against Georgia, with the best side played for Canada at the end. My guess for the first choice squad:

1. Titi
2. Taufetee
3. Baumann
4. Civetta
5. Brakeley
6. Dolan
7. Lamborn
8. Durutalo
9. Augsperger
10. AJ
11. Hume
12. Iosefo
13. Brache
14. Teo
15. Hughes (or Cima/magie?)

16. Hilterbrand
17. Purpura
18. Waldren
19. Tameilau
20. Clever
21. Davies
22. Cima (possibly a 6th forward if Cima/Magie are in at 15, like Jensen)
23. Campbell

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby kearnc25 » Tue, 16 May 2017, 12:02

http://rugbylad.com/surprise-name-inclu ... and-squad/

Ireland squad for Japan/US tour. Eight uncapped players and twenty with under 10 caps, you lads might think about a win against such an inexperienced team.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Tue, 16 May 2017, 16:46

Steady on there! The Irish have a whole lot of depth.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Tue, 16 May 2017, 17:56

If we had Blaine Scully, Thretton Palamo, and Samu Manoa available I'd say we could put on an epic match. I think this squad will give us a solid chance to play a competitive match.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:18

Here I recap the Club/MRC season and give a review and what I think is the way forward based on the most recent signings in Major League Rugby:
https://youtu.be/mPyM9WvzDwc

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Thu, 18 May 2017, 16:51

Andrew Durutalo to Ealing Trailfinders (Championship, effectively 2nd division in English rugby)

Ealing Trailfinders have signed USA Eagles back rower Andrew Durutalo for the 2017-18 Championship season.

Durutalo, 29, has played 15 times for his country, and made three appearances at the 2015 World Cup.

He also represented the US sevens side at the Rio Olympics and played Super Rugby for the Japan-based Sunwolves.

"I've always wanted to experience rugby in the UK," said Durutalo. "I'm very humbled and privileged to have this opportunity."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39961453

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby HMFCalltheway » Thu, 18 May 2017, 20:19

Personally I think Andrew could do better than play in the English Championship from what I've seen from him. It really is a league that only ever has a 1 or 2 horse race and doesn't have the investment and competitiveness of Pro D2.

However this really shows that Ealing are an ambitious team as they've already made a few big signings for next years Championship season and their wealthy owner has made noises about eventually targeting promotion to the Premiership (they won't challenge Bristol for the moment though). They are a small, relatively new club though so there is a lot of work to do.
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Re: USA Rugby

Postby sk 88 » Thu, 18 May 2017, 21:44

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:Andrew Durutalo to Ealing Trailfinders (Championship, effectively 2nd division in English rugby)

Ealing Trailfinders have signed USA Eagles back rower Andrew Durutalo for the 2017-18 Championship season.

Durutalo, 29, has played 15 times for his country, and made three appearances at the 2015 World Cup.

He also represented the US sevens side at the Rio Olympics and played Super Rugby for the Japan-based Sunwolves.

"I've always wanted to experience rugby in the UK," said Durutalo. "I'm very humbled and privileged to have this opportunity."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39961453


I'm really surprised he couldn't find a deal with a Premiership club to be honest. Seems a top 7 to me.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Suiram » Fri, 19 May 2017, 01:19

Don't know why people don't respect his time at Sunwolves. He was their starting 7 and hung well in Super Rugby. Statistically (not that those work great for rugby) one of the few forwards that ranked from Sunwolves.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Fri, 19 May 2017, 02:04

Suiram wrote:Don't know why people don't respect his time at Sunwolves. He was their starting 7 and hung well in Super Rugby. Statistically (not that those work great for rugby) one of the few forwards that ranked from Sunwolves.


I'm surprised the Sunwolves let him go. Looked very comfortable at that level. Easily one of their best. The Championship isn't where he should be plying his trade.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby The Captain's Run » Fri, 19 May 2017, 04:29

Working Class Rugger wrote:I'm surprised the Sunwolves let him go. Looked very comfortable at that level. Easily one of their best. The Championship isn't where he should be plying his trade.

My theory is that the Sunwolves were always meant to be fully made up of Japan-eligible players (as they are now) and players like Durutalo were brought in to be the "training wheels" for the team in year one. There really wasn't any other reason to let him go, and I don't think he would have given up that opportunity just to play sevens.

This is definitely a steal for Ealing. I'd rather see him playing at a higher level or anchoring an MLR team next season, but it's good to have him playing 15s on a regular basis again.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby ihateblazers » Fri, 19 May 2017, 04:51

I would have personally liked to have seen him come to the Ospreys as a replacement for Sam Underhill.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby Suiram » Fri, 19 May 2017, 16:51

Maybe it'll just take some time in the UK to get noticed.

Only critique I'd say is that while he did well in Super Rugby he is more of a fitness and clever-poaching oriented 7. He may be lacking a bit for physicality in the UK when they are playing slow winter rugby.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby sk 88 » Fri, 19 May 2017, 18:51

I was wondering whether it was a visa-related thing? Get his visa on his USA test caps and then when here he counts as Kolpak on his Fijian one. When we brexit he'll then already be here and keep his rights etc.

Alternatively his options were Ealing on £40k or Newcastle on £60k and he preferred London/his partner can get a job to bridge that gap in London?

All speculation of course

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Fri, 19 May 2017, 20:09

sk 88 wrote:I was wondering whether it was a visa-related thing? Get his visa on his USA test caps and then when here he counts as Kolpak on his Fijian one. When we brexit he'll then already be here and keep his rights etc.

Alternatively his options were Ealing on £40k or Newcastle on £60k and he preferred London/his partner can get a job to bridge that gap in London?

All speculation of course

What Visa? He was born in NYC.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby sk 88 » Fri, 19 May 2017, 20:58

So will need a work visa in the UK.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby tryman » Sat, 20 May 2017, 05:22

sk 88 wrote:I was wondering whether it was a visa-related thing? Get his visa on his USA test caps and then when here he counts as Kolpak on his Fijian one. When we brexit he'll then already be here and keep his rights etc.

Alternatively his options were Ealing on £40k or Newcastle on £60k and he preferred London/his partner can get a job to bridge that gap in London?

All speculation of course


Someone please tell me he's on more than 40k which seems so little for an experienced player.

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Re: USA Rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sat, 20 May 2017, 16:47

tryman wrote:
sk 88 wrote:I was wondering whether it was a visa-related thing? Get his visa on his USA test caps and then when here he counts as Kolpak on his Fijian one. When we brexit he'll then already be here and keep his rights etc.

Alternatively his options were Ealing on £40k or Newcastle on £60k and he preferred London/his partner can get a job to bridge that gap in London?

All speculation of course


Someone please tell me he's on more than 40k which seems so little for an experienced player.

That's towards the higher end for RFU Championship contracts.

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