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Re: USA Rugby

Mon, 09 Sep 2019, 15:47

amz wrote:is there any list of US squad available? I find news was released but no roster


http://www.usa.rugby/2019/09/usa-mens-n ... apan-2019/

Props- Ainuu, Fry, Kilifi, Lamositele, Mullen
Hookers- Fawsitt, Hilterbrand, Taufete'e
Locks- Brakely, Civetta, Landry, Peterson
Backrows- Al Jiboori, Dolan, Germishuys, Lamborn, Pinkelman, Quill
Scrum-halfs- Augspurger, Davies, De Haas
Fly-halfs- MacGinty, Magie
Centers- Brache, Campbell, Lasike, Palamo
Wings- Iosefo, Scully, Te'O
Fullback- Hooley

Re: USA Rugby

Mon, 09 Sep 2019, 17:41

Ideal 23? For me:

Fry
Taufetee
Lamositele
Civetta
Landry
Quill
Lamborn
Dolan
Davies
Macginty
Scully
Lasike
Campbell
Brache
Hooley

Fawsitt
Ainuu
Mullen
Peterson
Germishuys
De Haas
Magie
Iosefo
Last edited by Coloradoan on Mon, 09 Sep 2019, 19:04, edited 1 time in total.

Re: USA Rugby

Mon, 09 Sep 2019, 18:03

That's 22

Re: USA Rugby

Mon, 09 Sep 2019, 19:04

Thanks, fixed.

Wouldn't be shocked to see Gold, given his comments and his squad split, go with a 6/2 split on the bench, though.

Re: USA Rugby

Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 02:53

David Ainu'u is out for the remainder of the World Cup. Chance Wenglewski has been called up to replace him.

Re: USA Rugby

Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 17:34

TheStroBro wrote:David Ainu'u is out for the remainder of the World Cup. Chance Wenglewski has been called up to replace him.

Thanks for the update. Any word on whether Hooley might need to be replaced? Looks like he's at least out of the France game based on comments by Gary Gold.
I was surprised Chance wasn't included from the outset. Since he's coming over late, I expect Fry and Kilifi to play vs France.
I assume Mikey Teo will start at FB in that match, which is fine by me since I think he's an exciting player. With Hooley concussed, Magie should make the bench to backup AJ.

Re: USA Rugby

Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 20:56

Hooley won't be. He's in return to play protocol. I suspect Brache will start at FB and Campbell at Outside Center.

Re: USA Rugby

Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 04:22

What was his injury exactly?

Re: USA Rugby

Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 04:41

thatrugbyguy wrote:What was his injury exactly?

They didn't say, this is pure speculation, but I'd say a grade two ankle sprain. I knew it was a sprained ankle.

ETA: Peter Tiberio has retired from Rugby.

Re: USA Rugby

Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 10:51

Do you have any idea on where did the "Rugby World Cup" 11 M$ revenues that USA Rugby declared in 2018 came from?
https://assets.usa.rugby/docs/about/fin ... 2000744455

Re: USA Rugby

Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 11:07

Armchair Fan wrote:Do you have any idea on where did the "Rugby World Cup" 11 M$ revenues that USA Rugby declared in 2018 came from?
https://assets.usa.rugby/docs/about/fin ... 2000744455


From your link: that's the 7s World Cup. So they made a minus of 750k USD.

"Rugby World Cup 2018, LLC (a Delaware limited liability
company) was formed in 2017. Rugby World Cup 2018, LLC (RWC)
is a single-member LLC, with the initial sole member being
USARP. In May 2018, RWC was transferred to USARP's sole
member, USA Rugby. RWC was formed to (a) promote the sport of
rugby and further the purposes that USA Rugby is authorized to
pursue, (b) to host and operate the 2018 Rugby World Cup Sevens
tournament in the California bay area, and (c) engaging in
other activities as may be reasonably necessary to pursue or
accomplish the foregoing (collectively, the Business). The
Business of RWC may be conducted directly by RWC or indirectly
through another company."

Re: USA Rugby

Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 11:08

Thanks, I didn't even think of Sevens, I'm that stupid.

Re: USA Rugby

Fri, 08 Nov 2019, 18:33

French Barbarians to play USA next July 11 in New York:
https://www.lerugbynistere.fr/news/les- ... kS0kn4GEbE

Re: USA Rugby

Tue, 19 Nov 2019, 14:14

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/11/14/ ... blueprint/

Re: USA Rugby

Tue, 19 Nov 2019, 16:34

Overall I thought those numbers were really good when you consider the time for the majority of the games. This was only across the 28 games they showed via linear and doesn't include their NBC Gold package viewership. But I know they exceeded their NBC Gold package sales target by 80%.

Re: USA Rugby

Tue, 19 Nov 2019, 18:39

TheStroBro wrote:Overall I thought those numbers were really good when you consider the time for the majority of the games. This was only across the 28 games they showed via linear and doesn't include their NBC Gold package viewership. But I know they exceeded their NBC Gold package sales target by 80%.


Agreed. Tough time zones and good numbers. Lots of non-rugby friends were texting me about the matches they watched unprompted too. And if NBC is happy that's a good thing!

Re: USA Rugby

Sat, 07 Dec 2019, 13:25

It looks like USA may visit Moscow next July to face Russia: https://rugger.info/news/29917

Re: USA Rugby

Sat, 07 Dec 2019, 16:35

Armchair Fan wrote:It looks like USA may visit Moscow next July to face Russia: https://rugger.info/news/29917


Not likely. We're set to host the French Barbarians in July. However, November in St Petersburg? I wish I was rich, that would be a fun one.

Re: USA Rugby

Sat, 14 Dec 2019, 14:34

USA Rugby to be decentralized or something. The plan is to have all of the people involved with the current setup come up with a new plan on how to fix it. :lol:

https://www.usa.rugby/2019/12/usa-rugby ... ask-force/

It sounds like they would basically be asking a small number of volunteers at local and regional level to take over responsibility for things they have failed to do.

Re: USA Rugby

Sat, 14 Dec 2019, 16:02

4N wrote:USA Rugby to be decentralized or something. The plan is to have all of the people involved with the current setup come up with a new plan on how to fix it. :lol:

https://www.usa.rugby/2019/12/usa-rugby ... ask-force/

It sounds like they would basically be asking a small number of volunteers at local and regional level to take over responsibility for things they have failed to do.


A bit more complicated than that, you have some of the voices out there claiming for this to be decentralized. You mean you want the same people who have been creating the policies at the committee level that the National Office has to enforce to run the community game? We could save a shit ton of money from the community game if we killed national championships for D2 and D3. Then put that money back into youth rugby.

If anything decentralization could lead to the destruction of the sport.

Re: USA Rugby

Sat, 14 Dec 2019, 16:47

The whole thing has been a shitshow for as long as I have been following rugby. I remember the guy who ran Gainline.us doing a good job of exposing what went wrong during the Doug Arnot era but he eventually gave up, probably out of frustration. I think a lot of people could relate to that.

Re: USA Rugby

Fri, 20 Dec 2019, 20:35

Hopefully Roman Salanoa makes his Leinster debut tonight, he’s on the bench and looks like a big unit.

Played U20 for the USA at the 2016 JWR.

Re: USA Rugby

Mon, 23 Dec 2019, 02:49

Would it be beneficial for MLR and USA rugby to bundle tv rights as a package? I just wonder since there would be more on the table as the season is now aligned right through Feb-Nov. I wouldn't want to see an arrangement like SUM in soccer but the high performance side of US rugby closely collaborating with the MLR commercially wouldn't be a bad thing and might be the only way for US rugby to get out of the whole they are in.

On restructuring USA Rugby, this is probably a crazy suggestion but would there be any scope in the MLR clubs setting up new non profit Geo unions and running local rugby or perhaps just taking over the current Geo unions? It would never happen until the MLR is profitable and they would of course be seperated from the for profit MLR clubs. With the shit show that is US rugby, maybe these newly MLR backed Geo unions could do a better job with a more professional approach. It is in their interest to grow the game after all. The US is basically a continent, perhaps a decentralized approach is for the best but not with the current committee organisation.

Re: USA Rugby

Mon, 23 Dec 2019, 14:03

ihateblazers wrote:Would it be beneficial for MLR and USA rugby to bundle tv rights as a package? I just wonder since there would be more on the table as the season is now aligned right through Feb-Nov. I wouldn't want to see an arrangement like SUM in soccer but the high performance side of US rugby closely collaborating with the MLR commercially wouldn't be a bad thing and might be the only way for US rugby to get out of the whole they are in.

On restructuring USA Rugby, this is probably a crazy suggestion but would there be any scope in the MLR clubs setting up new non profit Geo unions and running local rugby or perhaps just taking over the current Geo unions? It would never happen until the MLR is profitable and they would of course be seperated from the for profit MLR clubs. With the shit show that is US rugby, maybe these newly MLR backed Geo unions could do a better job with a more professional approach. It is in their interest to grow the game after all. The US is basically a continent, perhaps a decentralized approach is for the best but not with the current committee organisation.


Well FloRugby paid them like $5 million over 7 years which isn’t a ton but they are desperate for cash. I don’t think MLR has any paid TV deal yet. But yes, I think it will be in the best interest if both can be bundled together (though I can guarantee that USAR will try and show horn itself into trying to get more than they should, messing up discussions).

The way I see it, USAR would clearly benefit from being on a different network than Flo. I don’t mind a paywall but make it something like ESPN+ or premium cable like CBS Sports or Fox Sports. They need to be easily accessible by fans otherwise no one will end up watching their games. And they need to get on this before MLR completely takes over as “the” rugby to watch. Internationals should be the pinnacle of the sport but they are treated like second rate because no one can watch them and they care more about their local club.

MLR would benefit because internationals are great for the sport and really set it aside from many other sports. The timing is also great because the entire offseason is now our test match calendar so there is something to keep the fans engaged and allows rugby to be available almost all the time.

As for the GUs, I think it would be in the MLR clubs best interests to hire a full time community manager whose job is to also assist the GU with administration. This person can attend matches every weekend, build a relationship with the clubs and then use that to help their own MLR club as well as provide feedback to the GU. Plus, having someone who actually works full time for the GU would be a huge win.

Re: USA Rugby

Mon, 23 Dec 2019, 16:53

4N wrote:The whole thing has been a shitshow for as long as I have been following rugby. I remember the guy who ran Gainline.us doing a good job of exposing what went wrong during the Doug Arnot era but he eventually gave up, probably out of frustration. I think a lot of people could relate to that.


Well, he even did a lot during the Melville era. But I think his email was eventually suspended, he was the Men's XVs Media manager (volunteer basis) for a couple of years, and after he moved on or was let go (not sure which), his email account remained active and was still on distro lists for a hot minute.
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