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2023 Rugby World Cup Host

2023 Rugby World Cup host

South Africa
16
23%
Ireland
15
21%
Italy
32
45%
France
8
11%
 
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2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Fri, 12 Dec 2014, 16:08

Following on from the popular "Future RWC Hosts" thread, this poll is about your preference, not your expectations, although the two might coincide...
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby sk 88 » Fri, 12 Dec 2014, 18:49

I've voted Italy. I believe that spreading the game away from English speaking countries should be the next stage of the RWC.

Italy is also breaking new ground without being particularly risky, they have got 70k plus at two different grounds, not to be sniffed at by any nationality, lots of different sized grounds, good sized internal market with rugby having a foothold but huge room for growth plus great time zone for the two biggest rugby markets UK + France.

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby jonny24 » Fri, 12 Dec 2014, 20:10

Based purely on preference, I picked North America. Not that I think it will happen.

Who knows, an impending world cup might be the shove needed to finally get a pro league up and running.
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Pockets » Fri, 12 Dec 2014, 21:57

I'd like to see Italy or the US get it

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Natal » Fri, 12 Dec 2014, 23:13

Knowing WR, I feel they will be tempted to go for a more conservative option in 2023 after giving the 2019 tournament to Japan. Of these options, South Africa and Ireland seem the most likely to be chosen.

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Sun, 14 Dec 2014, 09:50

Natal wrote:Knowing WR, I feel they will be tempted to go for a more conservative option in 2023 after giving the 2019 tournament to Japan. Of these options, South Africa and Ireland seem the most likely to be chosen.


Agreed. As stated, this poll is only about preferences, not expectations. Italy & Argentina are leading the way, unsurprisingly, but I'm pretty sure 2023 will "come home" to the long-established heirarchy, and it only remains to be seen whether good sense will prevail over backroom wheeling and dealings by the various factions within the core committee on this occasion or no.
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Horsehead » Mon, 15 Dec 2014, 12:23

I voted Argentina, a rugby mad country in a continent that hasn't hosted it before. If I had to put those options in order of preference I'd go

Argentina
Italy
Ireland
North America
South Africa

Does anyone know when the decision will be made and if they will be deciding on 2023 and 2027 at the same time much like they did with 2015 & 2019? Personally I'd rather they didn't and just did one at a time

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Mon, 15 Dec 2014, 13:18

My order of preference for 2023 would be:

South Africa :thumbup:
Argentina
North America
Italy
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby paratus » Tue, 16 Dec 2014, 09:10

I voted Argentina, but I think also I would like to see a handful of the pool games played in Uruguay, Chile and Brazil

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby The Do » Tue, 16 Dec 2014, 10:35

Italy
Argentina
USA/Canada
Ireland
South Africa

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Tue, 16 Dec 2014, 11:36

Why the strong opposition to SA, The Do, if I may inquire?
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Buffalo » Tue, 16 Dec 2014, 20:27

Because you asked people's preference and many people would prefer to see the game go to a growing nation with lots of potential like Italy or Argentina. South Africa would be just be giving it to another member of the traditional clique, plus it's a far less attractive travel destination than Italy or even Argentina.

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby grande » Tue, 16 Dec 2014, 21:55

My preference:
Italy
Argentina
USA/Canada
South Africa
Ireland

Italy is new territory, but still low risk.
Argentina is new territory, but a bit riskier.
USA/Canada is even newer territory, and rugby isn't really part of the national "consciousness" there.
South Africa is old hat, but a large country that hasn't hosted in a long time.
Ireland, while never having hosted on their own before, has had it in their back yard several times, and is a small country.

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Tue, 16 Dec 2014, 22:05

Buffalo wrote:Because you asked people's preference and many people would prefer to see the game go to a growing nation with lots of potential like Italy or Argentina. South Africa would be just be giving it to another member of the traditional clique, plus it's a far less attractive travel destination than Italy or even Argentina.


Alright, keep your hair on. I was just curious about THE DO's perspective, is all, and I'll wait for him/her to answer it themself. I'm perfectly aware of the fact that I asked for people's preferences - and all are certainly welcome, naturally. 8-)
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Thu, 18 Dec 2014, 16:29

Italy & Argentina the big favorites here, then. North America not so much. I heard the US were actually more interested in the 2027 tournament anyway, believing the 2023 installment is destined to return to one of the 'traditional' nations. Perhaps they know something we don't . . .
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby 4N » Thu, 18 Dec 2014, 17:05

USA will bid for 2023 in order to secure 2027/2031.

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby vis maior » Thu, 18 Dec 2014, 17:22

I do not believe it will be Italy.
Much more probably USA, maybe in conjunction with Canada

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby The Do » Fri, 19 Dec 2014, 07:29

Rowan wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Because you asked people's preference and many people would prefer to see the game go to a growing nation with lots of potential like Italy or Argentina. South Africa would be just be giving it to another member of the traditional clique, plus it's a far less attractive travel destination than Italy or even Argentina.


Alright, keep your hair on. I was just curious about THE DO's perspective, is all, and I'll wait for him/her to answer it themself. I'm perfectly aware of the fact that I asked for people's preferences - and all are certainly welcome, naturally. 8-)


Buffalo is pretty much on the money on this one. It is not like I don't want South Africa to host a RWC, it is just that I think Italy and Argentina has that Latin zest of life and emotion that would make an event like the RWC something special. I loved and remember fondly the '95 RWC as it was the first RWC that I took more than a casual observation.
I agree with most on this forum that WR need to build rugby worldwide, and I feel having a RWC in Italy, Argentina or North America will help build and strengthen rugby's future presences in those countries. The whole Ireland vs South Africa debate..... Just a personal preference having been to both countries. Having been at the old Landsdown Rd in 2002 when Ireland defeated the Wallabies and seeing the emotions the Irish displayed and the singing they did that afternoon, it is still one of my favourite live rugby experience even despite the loss. Nothing against South Africa, I enjoyed my time there and still have a few mates living there, it just personal preference

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Fri, 19 Dec 2014, 09:24

Thanks for the comments, The Do. Yes, I certainly agree with the sentiments about spreading the tournament around, and I'll personally be delighted if Argentina does win the 2023 event. I thought the 1995 tournament had a fantastic atmosphere though (I wasn't actually there, but that's the impression I got through TV images, etc).
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Fri, 19 Dec 2014, 12:24

Here's what Wiki - a neutral source without any agendas - has to say about it:

Several countries have declared their interest in hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup, both countries that have already hosted RWC matches, and countries looking to host a tournament for the first time. World Rugby may select the hosts for the 2023 and 2027 at the same time (as they did with the 2015 and 2019 tournaments).[1]

Previous hosts[edit]
Among the previous hosts, South Africa is considered one of the frontrunners to host the 2023 competition, having bid unsuccessfully for the right to host the 2011, 2015, and 2019 tournaments.[2][3]

The Irish Government and the Northern Ireland Executive, together with the Irish Rugby Football Union, formally announced on 5th December 2014 their intentions to launch a bid.[4]

France, which hosted in 2007, has reportedly expressed interest in hosting the 2023 tournament.[5]

Certain rugby nations are unlikely to host in 2023, given that the country or the region has recently hosted a World Cup. For example, Australia Rugby Union's CEO Bill Pulver stated that Australia may not host another World Cup until 2039;[6] Australia hosted in 2003 and neighboring New Zealand hosted in 2011.

New hosts[edit]
Several new countries have expressed interest in hosting the 2023 tournament. The United States (possibly co-hosting with Canada) is anticipated to bid to host the 2023 and/or 2027 Rugby World Cup.[7] World Rugby CEO Mike Miller stated in 2010 that the U.S. would host a Rugby World Cup, stating that "it's a question of when, not if."[8]

Argentina has also expressed interest, with Argentina's World Rugby Council representative Agustín Pichot having stated he wants to bring the tournament to Argentina in 2023.[9][10][11] Italy, which lost to England by just three votes on the right to host the 2015 tournament, is also interested in hosting.[12]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Rugby_World_Cup

France? :shock: But Australia dismissed as a recent host . . . :roll:
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby AUCKLANDREUNION » Fri, 19 Dec 2014, 21:51

" A neutral source without any agendas"

Rowan do you not realise that you are applying journalistic credit to an internet site that is compiled by anonymous contributors, from all corners of the globe that do not have to provide proof of qualification, or authority?

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Fri, 19 Dec 2014, 22:09

AUCKLANDREUNION wrote: Rowan do you not realise that you are applying journalistic credit to an internet site that is compiled by anonymous contributors, from all corners of the globe that do not have to provide proof of qualification, or authority?


Just thought it was interesting, is all. Wikipedia is tightly monitored, btw. I'm not sure I applied 'journalistic credit' to them either. My point was that the perspective was undoubtedly neutral, unlike those to be found in the press.
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Sat, 31 Jan 2015, 23:32

Italy followed by Argentina still lead the way.
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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 01 Feb 2015, 03:25

Argentina since you said preference. Not my expectation I have to say. And Italy would be my second preference.

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Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Host

Postby Rowan » Sun, 01 Feb 2015, 08:47

South Africa is my expectation, and probably it has become my preference too. It wasn't at the start of these discussions, but the more I analyze the respective bids the more certain I am that SA is in the best postition to turn on a fantastic World Cup in 2023. Argentina was my initial preference, but I think 2023 is too soon and they should aim for 2031 (2027 I believe it should go north again, hopefully to Italy).
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