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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby victorsra » Sat, 19 May 2018, 11:59

Canalina wrote:Mongolia team for tomorrow's third place final, from https://www.macoocoo.com/index.php?r=gr ... =1303&cid=

1 Natsagdorj Oidovdorj *Loosehead Prop
2 Bataa Nyamdorj *Hooker
3 Enkhbat Dashochir *Tighthead Prop
4 Dulguun Altanjargal *#4 Lock
5 Nyambayar Nergui *#5 Lock
6 Uugankhuu Batbayar *Blindside Flanker
7 Bayarnyam Purenyam *Openside Flanker
8 Khosbayar Ganbold *No 8
9 Munkhdemberel Galbadrakh *Scrum Half
10 Gansaikhan Enkhbat *Fly Half
11 Gangrene Batdorj *Left Wing
12 Banzragch Sukhbat *Inside Centre
13 Dashdendev Gansukh *Outside Centre(C)
14 Otgonbayar Nyamsuren *Right Wing
15 Baterdene Batkhuyag *Full Back

- Greg Hinton (Manager)

16 Bayarmanlai Dorj (Front Row)
17 Unubold Tsolmon (Front Row)
18 Narranbaatar Batsukh (Front Row)
19 Soderdene Bazarsuren


100% Mongolian it looks like.
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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 19 May 2018, 13:31

Last score update was Kazakhstan 48 - 0 Pakistan, a couple of hours ago. The final result naturally doesn't appear to have been posted on the commentary...

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby dwpeate » Sat, 19 May 2018, 13:59

Apparently Mongolia Kyrgyzstan won't be plaued

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Canalina » Sun, 20 May 2018, 05:27

"...our guys outplayed the national team of Pakistan 48:0, thereby winning a ticket to the second division"

Kazakh tries by: Vladimir Chernykh, Baurzhan Shegebay, Anton Makarenko, Alexander Limar, Rustam Kurbanov, penalty try, Nikita Ivanov, Grigory Litvinov. Jalil Muradov converted three tries

"The match for third place should be played by the Kyrgyz and the Mongols, but the first did not show up and they were given a technical defeat"

It's a pity for Mongolia because they probably would have won easily against Kyrgyzstan (Kaz defeated Pak and Mng with the same gap and Pak defeated Kgz 82-0, so...) and perhaps they could have had some chances also against Pakistan, but they just can play versus the by far strongest team of the pool

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 20 May 2018, 12:23

Result from today: Thailand 18 - 12 India

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Canalina » Mon, 21 May 2018, 07:12

India team. The coach should be japanese; the three Khatri backs shouldn't be related, or at least I haven't found news on google about their brotherhood

1 Parvender Singh *Loosehead Prop
2 Suraj Prasad *Hooker
3 Rohit Singh Sivac *Tighthead Prop
4 Surinder Singh *#4 Lock
5 Jitendra Kumar *#5 Lock
6 Suresh Kumar *Blindside Flanker
7 Nitin Dagar *Openside Flanker
8 Neeraj Neeraj *No 8
9 Sujai Lama *Scrum Half(C)
10 Akash Balmiki *Fly Half
11 Roshan Lobo *Left Wing
12 Mohit Khatri *Inside Centre
13 Prince Khatri *Outside Centre
14 Vikas Khatri *Right Wing
15 Gautam Dagar *Full Back

Coach Toru Jinguji

16 Paramjeet Singh Reserve (Front Row)
17 Bhupendra Bokan Reserve (Front Row)
18 Surendra Surendra Reserve (Front Row)
19 Anil Kumar Reserve
20 Shokender Shokender Reserve
21 Deepak Kumar Punia Reserve
22 Rakesh Rakesh Reserve
23 Sourabh Dubal Reserve

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Canalina wrote:Mongolia team for tomorrow's third place final, from https://www.macoocoo.com/index.php?r=gr ... =1303&cid=
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100% Mongolian it looks like.

Also the thai and the indian lines-up seem completely or almost completely "local"

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Mon, 21 May 2018, 08:16

The India squad with clubs or at least regional/services affiliation. All from India and none from any diaspora.

Sujai Lama (captain), Jitendra Kumar, Suresh Kumar, Rohit Singh Sivach, Parvender Singh, Shokender Balyan, Surinder Singh, Divagar Yadav, Paramjeet Singh (all Services-SSCB)
Mohit Khatri, Prince Khatri, Neeraj Khatri, Vikas Khatri, Sourabh Dubal, Deepak Punia, Anil Kumar, Surender Joon, Bhupendra Bokan (all Haryana);
Rakesh Lohchab, Nitin Dagar, Gautam Dagar (all Delhi);
Puspendu Tudu, Suraj Prasad, Akash Balmiki (all West Bengal);
Roshan Lobo (Karnataka),
Pradeep Jadhav (Maharastra).

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby victorsra » Mon, 21 May 2018, 12:00

In which city are the Services based?
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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Mon, 21 May 2018, 14:37

victorsra wrote:In which city are the Services based?

I think it's the centralised control board for the Army, so the players could be from bases all around the country in theory.

There are a few Singhs which suggests they are from Punjab but this just signifies they are Sikhs, who could live/come from anywhere really.

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby gibbs » Mon, 21 May 2018, 15:12

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:
victorsra wrote:In which city are the Services based?

I think it's the centralised control board for the Army, so the players could be from bases all around the country in theory.

There are a few Singhs which suggests they are from Punjab but this just signifies they are Sikhs, who could live/come from anywhere really.


The name Singh doesn't necessarily mean they're Sikhs, Most Punjabi non Sikh's have Singh as their surname.. It was close game, Decent defence from India, No idea how strong Chinese Taipei is this year but most likely Thailand will win the division

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby RugInt » Wed, 23 May 2018, 10:07

Chinese Taipei 34, India 5

I think 60 minutes into the game

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Wed, 23 May 2018, 10:59

Final score was Taiwan 44 - 5 India. *

* at least that was what the match scoreboard said!

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 26 May 2018, 09:56

Result: Hong Kong 91 - 10 Malaysia

Ouch, still such a huge gap in abilities between the top 3 in Asia and the rest

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 26 May 2018, 11:13

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby victorsra » Sun, 27 May 2018, 00:40

Taiwan 28-21 Thailand - FT

But maybe both are promoted as Div I have only 2 teams now.
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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Canalina » Mon, 28 May 2018, 16:29

Following the Kyrgyzstan forfeit (too many injuries, I suppose), Mongolia played two friendlies in Almaty: they lost against Kazakhstan Veterans and they won against Hong Kong Vandals, a touring team which was tragically involved in the Bali bombing years ago. I don't know the exact scores but there are some good galleries on fb https://www.facebook.com/MongolianRugby/

The useful macoocoo page with all the Asia Rugby results, lines-up and scorers https://www.macoocoo.com/index.php?r=gr ... =1303&cid=

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Hong Kong Grass » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 00:18

Given that the Hong Kong team lining up against Korea will only feature one local HK Chinese player at most in the starting XV it really makes a mockery of 'Asian' rugby.

Parallels the Springbok team that was just out of isolation. I was born and grew up in HK but it'd be better for rugby in Asia if Korea made it to the RWC instead (if by some miracle HK ended up doing so), otherwise rugby will further cement its position as the game of gweilos in HK.

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby qwerty » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 00:20

Is the HKRU making any efforts to bring rugby closer to the Cantonese community?

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Fri, 01 Jun 2018, 07:00

qwerty wrote:Is the HKRU making any efforts to bring rugby closer to the Cantonese community?

Well the Hong Kong women's team by contrast is very much wholly or part Chinese with non-Chinese players in the minority, so it should be possible.

https://www.hkrugby.com/national/nation ... tional-15s

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby gibbs » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 10:06

Hong Kong Grass wrote:Given that the Hong Kong team lining up against Korea will only feature one local HK Chinese player at most in the starting XV it really makes a mockery of 'Asian' rugby.

Parallels the Springbok team that was just out of isolation. I was born and grew up in HK but it'd be better for rugby in Asia if Korea made it to the RWC instead (if by some miracle HK ended up doing so), otherwise rugby will further cement its position as the game of gweilos in HK.


Thank you for that.. Finally some one with a view of the larger pic, This issue is not confined to HK, By large Asian Rugby is dominated by teams full of mercenary players.. Look what happened to Malaysia full of Fijians, And these sides arnt new to Rugby either HK and Malaysia has history of nearly a century of International Rugby

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby gibbs » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 10:08

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:
qwerty wrote:Is the HKRU making any efforts to bring rugby closer to the Cantonese community?

Well the Hong Kong women's team by contrast is very much wholly or part Chinese with non-Chinese players in the minority, so it should be possible.

https://www.hkrugby.com/national/nation ... tional-15s


Ofcause it is possible, But Unions and Asian Rugby are only interested in keep the game within the expat elites and keeping the status quo of the people running Asian Rugby from Hong Kong

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby antlat » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 10:49

Hong Kong defeated South Korea 39 - 5.

Will now play Cook Islands over two legs

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Hinato » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 11:20

Les Iles Cook seront une formalité. Hong Kong sera au tournoi de repêchage en novembre en France.

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Hinato » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 13:40

Pour ceux qui me demandent le lieu de naissance des "Dragons". La compo d'Hong Kong ce matin contre la Corée du sud:
- 8 britanniques
- 7 "chinois" (hongkongais et autres)
- 3 australiens
- 3 sud-africains
- 1 français
- 1 néo-zélandais

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Re: Asian 5 Nations & Asian rugby discussion

Postby Hong Kong Grass » Sat, 02 Jun 2018, 15:07

Sure there are Caucasian players that were born in HK, it's an ex British colony after all. However the Caucasian population is less than 1% and given how many of them will go their whole lives without bothering to learn Cantonese it's just indicative of their privileged position. It still makes a sham of 'Asian' rugby and having the administrative headquarters of Asian rugby be based in HK also doesn't sit right. Rugby is inherently an Anglo sport but having this kind of setup does it no favours.

There have been more local Chinese or Eurasians in the starting XV representing HK before in the past, but that never seemed to have been built on and the current status quo feels like a regression.

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