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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Wed, 04 Apr 2018, 16:08

Teams of Russian champ 2018

1 level (Enisei, Krasny Yar, VVA, Kuban, Metallurg, Slava)
2 level (Imperia, Bulava, Narvskaya Zastava, Kuban reserve, Rostov, Kazan)
3 level (Dinamo Moscow, Perm, Yoshkar-Ola, Torpedo Moscow, Varyag, Kaluga, Slava reserve, Storm Peterburg)

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 04 Apr 2018, 16:36

No reserve teams from Krasnoyarsk clubs? Are there regional leagues below national level or their guys after U18 are lost and leave rugby?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Wed, 04 Apr 2018, 16:52

Armchair Fan wrote:No reserve teams from Krasnoyarsk clubs? Are there regional leagues below national level or their guys after U18 are lost and leave rugby?

I think Krasnoyarsk clubs would gladly go their reserve teams at level 2. But the western clubs of the second level simply do not have the money to fly to Krasnoyarsk. Therefore, the Enisei reserve and Krasny Yar reserve play in the amateur championship of the Krasnoyarsk region.
Yes, there is also a regional Federal League (4 level), where about 50 teams in 8 groups. There are also several regional champs (5 level) in Krasnoyarsk, Moscow and Petersburg. In the championship of Moscow several levels.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 04 Apr 2018, 17:01

Which are the regional groups? Which regions are covered? You guys could try to do a map of rugby competitions in Russia, it would be very interesting.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Wed, 04 Apr 2018, 17:13

victorsra wrote:Which are the regional groups? Which regions are covered? You guys could try to do a map of rugby competitions in Russia, it would be very interesting.

West, Center, South, Moscow, Volga-North, Volga-South, Ural, Siberia. But in the Federal League only amateur clubs, which are a age maximum of 5-10 years. These are guys who started playing rugby in 20 age or more. It is hard for them to play even with the Slava reserve, where players learn to play rugby since childhood.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 04 Apr 2018, 17:21

Yes, pretty normal in most countries in the world this situation.

The Siberian group has only clubs from Krasnoyarsk, Novokuznetsk, Novosibirsk, Chita.... or it has clubs in the Pacific Coast too?
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 04 Apr 2018, 17:29

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Armchair Fan wrote:No reserve teams from Krasnoyarsk clubs? Are there regional leagues below national level or their guys after U18 are lost and leave rugby?

I think Krasnoyarsk clubs would gladly go their reserve teams at level 2. But the western clubs of the second level simply do not have the money to fly to Krasnoyarsk. Therefore, the Enisei reserve and Krasny Yar reserve play in the amateur championship of the Krasnoyarsk region.

Could Enisei-STM and Krasny Yar reserve teams afford to play all their games away? Or at least enter a mixed team sharing costs? I'm not saying it's an ideal solution, in fact I know it's kind of stupid to judge from abroad and on a forum what two professional clubs do, but for example it's what VRAC and El Salvador decided three years ago at a smaller scale in Spain: since their regional league is so weak, their U18, U16 and U14 play in Madrid regional leagues and only have home games when the rival club can afford to do so.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Thu, 05 Apr 2018, 07:08

They try to rent several young players to Metallurg, and also sevens teams Enisei and Krasny Yar are made up of young players. And others play in the local amateur championship.
In the Federal League there are no teams from Vladivostok and Khabarovsk. Several teams from Central Siberia.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 06 Apr 2018, 19:46

In Vladivostok there is a command of the Maritime State University.

https://vk.com/msun_rugby?z=video144164 ... 64145_9849

In Khabarovsk they play rugball, local innovation ...

https://vk.com/club106208631
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 07 Apr 2018, 08:29

Russia in the beginning of june plays tests in Canada and US.
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Re: Russian Rugby

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby evil santa » Sun, 08 Apr 2018, 21:06

Curious information here https://rugger.info/news/19463 - the editor of rugger.info and Sports Director of RUR are going to make podcast, planning to invite players and officials. So anyone who understands Russian can listen to them and ask questions.

And in Krasny Yar guestbook someone wrote, that Alekseenko leaves Kuban for Yar. As for me it is quite possible, although I thought they will seek for some foreign coach.

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Re: Russian Rugby

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 17 Apr 2018, 18:49

Krasny Yar v Enisei Continental Shield 2018

21 April 11.00 Moscow Time

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 08:05

Franchise championship involving old Soviet republics and Nations Cup in Russia? https://rugger.info/news/19721

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 08:31

This makes sense if Georgian team will play in the championship.

Otherwise it does not make any sense.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 13:42

Nations Cup in Moscow, Kazan or Petersburg. Maybe in 2019.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 13:48

Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Russian Rugby Federation (FRR) Igor Artemiev said that the organization initiates the creation of the Continental Rugby League. The tournament can start in 2020, and teams from more than ten countries will take part in it.

"We made a decision in principle that we are starting to create a project in rugby-15, similar to the Continental Hockey League and a similar league in basketball," Tass quotes Artemyev as saying. - It was decided to invite clubs from around ten countries, including from Georgia and Romania, we also want to see clubs from Ukraine. Now we are starting to work on this project, we took two years to create it. If we are talking about the amount of 600-800 million rubles (10-12 mil $), and we will find such a sponsor, then this should be enough.

https://www.sport-express.ru/rugby/news ... u-1399188/

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 16:44

"We made a decision in principle that we are starting to create a project in rugby-15, similar to the Continental Hockey League and a similar league in basketball," Tass quotes Artemyev as saying. - It was decided to invite clubs from around ten countries, including from Georgia and Romania, we also want to see clubs from Ukraine. Now we are starting to work on this project, we took two years to create it. If we are talking about the amount of 600-800 million rubles (10-12 mil $), and we will find such a sponsor, then this should be enough.

If he can find the money, that would be massive.


1 level (Enisei, Krasny Yar, VVA, Kuban, Metallurg, Slava)
2 level (Imperia, Bulava, Narvskaya Zastava, Kuban reserve, Rostov, Kazan)
3 level (Dinamo Moscow, Perm, Yoshkar-Ola, Torpedo Moscow, Varyag, Kaluga, Slava reserve, Storm Peterburg)

Now I noticed. What happened to Fili Moscow?
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 17:46

Any details about new international tournament?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby qwerty » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 18:13

I really don't see a Ukrainian team taking part in a Russian-dominated tournament. There aren't even any flights between the two countries! Also, the level of rugby in Ukraine is too low to have a professional team. I do think that a league with Georgian, Romanian and Russian teams could work. The big 4 Russian teams need to play other competitive teams that have the chance fight for the championship against them. Metallurg and Slava simply don't cut it.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby qwerty » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 18:16

victorsra wrote:
1 level (Enisei, Krasny Yar, VVA, Kuban, Metallurg, Slava)
2 level (Imperia, Bulava, Narvskaya Zastava, Kuban reserve, Rostov, Kazan)
3 level (Dinamo Moscow, Perm, Yoshkar-Ola, Torpedo Moscow, Varyag, Kaluga, Slava reserve, Storm Peterburg)

Now I noticed. What happened to Fili Moscow?


I believe they became amateur.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 19:07

qwerty wrote:
I believe they became amateur.

Yes, they play in Moscow championship.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 19:15

RugbyPUBtbilisi wrote:Any details about new international tournament?

One of the key decisions of this Supreme Council was the approval by its members of the idea of ​​creating an open international rugby-15 tournament for professional clubs. The participants of the discussion came to a unanimous opinion that the implementation of this idea will not only increase the competitiveness of our clubs in the international arena, but the main thing is that it will increase the number of interesting matches and promote the popularization of sports in the country. It is clear that the implementation of such a project will require time, the art of diplomacy and significant investments, so the Union decided to form an organizing committee, which will have to work out the problem areas and details of the future championship, hold negotiations with World Rugby, Rugby Europe, the Sport Ministry of Russia and foreign rugby unions. The head of the committee appointed deputy chairman of Russia Rugby Union Kirill Yashenkov.
http://www.rugby.ru/slider-news/vysshij ... bi-15.html

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby beber » Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 20:59

qwerty wrote:I really don't see a Ukrainian team taking part in a Russian-dominated tournament. There aren't even any flights between the two countries! Also, the level of rugby in Ukraine is too low to have a professional team. I do think that a league with Georgian, Romanian and Russian teams could work. The big 4 Russian teams need to play other competitive teams that have the chance fight for the championship against them. Metallurg and Slava simply don't cut it.


I agree. I think it's a very ambitious project, but needs to get a good standard.

I think that kind of franchises could work :

Caucasus Riviera (players from Kuban Krasnodar, Batumi, Aia Kutaisi, Bagrati Kutaisi)
XV-type : 1.Zurab Eristavi (GEO) - 2.Nazir Gasanov (RUS) - 3.Magomed Davudov (RUS) ; 4.Vyacheslav Krasilnyk (UKR) - 5.Sandro Koiava (GEO)
6.Giorgi Tkhilaishvili (GEO) - 7.Tahir Gadzhiev (RUS) - 8.Kvicha Bujiashvili (GEO) ; 9.Zurab Tutberidze (GEO) - 10.Lasha Khmaladze (GEO)
11.Kirill Gubin (RUS) - 12.Beka Urjukashvili (GEO) - 13.Vladimir Ostroushko (RUS) - 14.Evgeny Nepeivoda (RUS) ; 15.Mirian Modebadze (GEO)
(R) 16.Beka Mamrikishvili (GEO) - 17.Alexander Bezverkhov (RUS) - 18.Tariel Donadze (GEO) ; 19.Gela Shalamberidze (GEO) - 20.Dimitri Gritsenko (RUS)
21.Giorgi Rokhvadze (GEO) - 22.Sergey Sugrobov (RUS) ; 23.Zurab Dzneladze (GEO)
more players : Nikolay Serkov, Veaceslav Titica, Arsen Machaladze, Davit Losaberidze, Giorgi Abramidze, Ioseb Kikvadze, Oleg Kobzev, Tedo Abzhandadze, Sergey Yanchy, Bakhva Kobakhidze, Ioseb Kikvadze...
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Georgia East (players from Locomotive, Jiki, Lelo Saracens, Kharebi, Academia, Armazi, Armia)
XV-type : 1.Guram Gogichashvili (GEO) - 2.Shalva Mamukashvili (GEO) - 3.Nika Pataraia (GEO) ; 4.Dachi Kopadze (GEO) - 5.Zurab Khorboladze (GEO)
6.Guram Shengelia (GEO) - 7.Saba Shubitidze (GEO) - 8.Nika Sukhishvili (GEO) ; 9.Giorgi Begadze (GEO) - 10.Revaz Jinchvelashvili (GEO)
11.Anzor Sichinava (GEO) - 12.Giorgi Kveseladze (GEO) - 13.Giorgi Koshadze (GEO) - 14.Sandro Todua (GEO) ; 15.Beka Tsiklauri (GEO)
(R) 16.Giorgi Chkoidze (GEO) - 17.Luka Chelidze (GEO) - 18.Nika Svimonishvili (GEO) ; 19.Ilia Spanderashvili (GEO) - 20.Giorgi Mchedlishvili (GEO)
21.Vazha Khutsishvili (GEO) - 21.Merab Kvirikashvili (GEO) - 22.Giorgi Aptsiauri (GEO)
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Moscow (players from VVA Saracens and Slava)
Bucharest (players from Steaua, Dinamo and CSM)
Nord-Vest (players from Baia Mare and U Cluj)

and 3 clubs :
I think Ensei-STM and Krasny Yar reaches the standard so don't need to merge to create a Siberian franchise. Possibly best players from Metallurg can help Krasny Yar.
Timisoara Saracens are in a very bad shape currently but still a rich club with a strong squad. With a better management they can match the two russian top clubs + no other top clubs in their regions

That's 8 teams, all with a professional standard (maybe the Moscow team a bit weaker than the others)

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