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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 02 Oct 2017, 14:30

STMKY wrote:For a strong championship, we need rich sponsors in several cities. And we need rugby players of high level for 7-8 teams. They are not now. The only way to cancel the lemitore for foreign players, so that 15-20 foreigners can have in the club application for the season as in the TOP-14.

This is a tactic and tactic can be different. A strategy should be one - national championship.

An alternative is a franchise consisting of 50% of foreigners occupying the last place and a squalid national championship.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Mon, 02 Oct 2017, 17:42

Vova12 wrote:
STMKY wrote:For a strong championship, we need rich sponsors in several cities. And we need rugby players of high level for 7-8 teams. They are not now. The only way to cancel the lemitore for foreign players, so that 15-20 foreigners can have in the club application for the season as in the TOP-14.

This is a tactic and tactic can be different. A strategy should be one - national championship.

An alternative is a franchise consisting of 50% of foreigners occupying the last place and a squalid national championship.

For example, in Peterburg was interested rugby and wanted to create a strong Zenit rugby club. Invited former coaches of one of the national teams of 4 nations or 6 nations, invited the best Russian players from Enisei, Yar, Kuban and VVA, Ostrikov and several top foreigners from the southern hemisphere. Where is this club more useful to play in the next 5-7 years? In the Russian Championship or in PRO-14?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 02 Oct 2017, 18:19

STMKY wrote:For example, in Peterburg was interested rugby and wanted to create a strong Zenit rugby club. Invited former coaches of one of the national teams of 4 nations or 6 nations, invited the best Russian players from Enisei, Yar, Kuban and VVA, Ostrikov and several top foreigners from the southern hemisphere. Where is this club more useful to play in the next 5-7 years? In the Russian Championship or in PRO-14?

Bro, we must discuss real things ...
In any case, our only chance is the national league.
The main task now is to atract money.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 02 Oct 2017, 18:30

Who in StPetersburg will attend the matches of this franchise?
I love rugby because the players of "Slava" are my neghbors and they are the same as me.

And on your franchise I will not care ...
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 10:47

Not a franchise, but rugby team in the structure of FC Zenit. By analogy with the basketball and volleyball teams Zenit. That is, the management of FC Zenit, their infrastructure, fans of Zenit. Look how much goes to basket Zenit in St. Petersburg. And rugby will walk.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Boudewijn Vertonghen » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 11:07

Have heard anything about ideas for a professional rugby league with teams from Germany, Russia, Romania, Georgia?

On 15.03.2017 the head coach of the German national Rugby Union team (15s) said in an interview in England (https://rhino.direct/blogs/the-locker-r ... -6-nations): "We've got the finance in place to have a fully professional side," explains Kobus (Potgieter). "We're just waiting for Rugby Europe to give us the go ahead to set up a league playing against sides from countries such as Georgia, Russia and Romania. We're ready to go, we have the training facilities, we have the pitch and ground here in Heidelberg."

In Germany, we were surprised and wanted to know more about that...but half a year passed and we didn't hear anything about that.

Have you heard anything about that?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Bruce_ma_goose » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 11:26

I can only assume it ties in with reference to the Continental Shield becoming a "League" in the next year or two.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 12:03

Most likely it was about the Continental Shield.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 12:13

Yeah, exactly. FPR also mentioned it.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 15:13

STMKY wrote:Not a franchise, but rugby team in the structure of FC Zenit. By analogy with the basketball and volleyball teams Zenit. That is, the management of FC Zenit, their infrastructure, fans of Zenit. Look how much goes to basket Zenit in St. Petersburg. And rugby will walk.

The main thing is not the name of the team. It can be a franchise or a structure of "Gazprom".
The main thing is where she plays.
If "Zenith" finance the "Narvskaya zavstava" or creates rugby "Zenith" to participate in our league i with both hands - for.

If to participate in one of the European leagues is against, as this will destroy our league.

New Zealand or South Africa can create many such projects, but there are no players for this in Russia!
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 15:15

Boudewijn Vertonghen wrote:Have you heard anything about that?

No, i have not heard anything about it. But i like this idea much more.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 15:27

Kill your own rugby championship on the eve of takeoff - a crime!

By the way Tom Petty died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 5BJXwNeKsQ
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 15:58

We have enough players for 1 PRO-14 team + a few top foreigners. But we do not have and will not be in the next 5-7 years exactly players for 7-8 teams at the level of Enisei and Yar. Just look at the results of the children's championships in Russia, where Moscow, Kazan, Krasnodar and others with a large score lose to Krasnoyarsk.
I'm not saying that Zenit should always play in PRO-14, but for the next 5-7 years, and then, if there are several strong clubs in Russia, Zenit can return to our championship.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 03 Oct 2017, 16:29

STMKY wrote:We have enough players for 1 PRO-14 team + a few top foreigners. But we do not have and will not be in the next 5-7 years exactly players for 7-8 teams at the level of Enisei and Yar. Just look at the results of the children's championships in Russia, where Moscow, Kazan, Krasnodar and others with a large score lose to Krasnoyarsk.
I'm not saying that Zenit should always play in PRO-14, but for the next 5-7 years, and then, if there are several strong clubs in Russia, Zenit can return to our championship.

If our team will play in PRO-14 then there will never be teams at the level of Yenisei and Yar in Russia.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Wed, 04 Oct 2017, 18:32

Meeting two Artemievs. Head Rugby Federation and captain Russian team.

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Now all efforts for the first national team. Most likelly after participating in tournament in Hong Kong and rest at the begining of the new year the team will be trained abroad.

There is no other way to prepare for the winter matches .

Do not open the link, everything is in Russian.

http://www.rugby.ru/new/predsedatel-vys ... ornyx.html
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Wed, 04 Oct 2017, 23:11

For the record, they are NOT related (or are they?). But both can be huge in driving Russian rugby forward.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Mon, 09 Oct 2017, 11:09

No Vas in Krasny Yar's challenge cup squad...

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby 4N » Mon, 09 Oct 2017, 11:37

Zhenya_Zima wrote:No Vas in Krasny Yar's challenge cup squad...


Not the player he once was.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 00:25

Or. more likely, the EPCR website is one-player short and, for whatever reason, missed the club and national captain out somehow.
No, wait, that sounds totally, totally far-fetched, man...!
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby 4N » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 02:24

Point remains the same. If only you could tie a classy Abkhazia joke into this somehow...

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Zhenya_Zima » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 09:51

While I would agree he's not quite at the level he once was in some facets, to suggest his demise in form is such that he would be dropped from the club captaincy and out of the wider squad for the lowest-ranked team in the Challenge Cup is somewhat ridiculous.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 14:21

Live | Challenge Cup, round 1| Enisei-STM vs Union Bordeaux Bègles | 13/10 KO 15:00

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 14:29

On October 12, there will be a live broadcast with the director of Enisei-STM and captain of "heavy machine". Krasnoyarsk will answer the questions of the fans.
On the eve of the start of the Siberians in European cups Alexander Pervukhin and Yuri Baranov are ready to tell about everything that interests fans.
Ask your questions in the comments on the link. I think that you can ask questions in Russian or English.
https://rugger.info/news/16667

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 14:05

Enisei-STM line-up:

1 Polivalov 2 Selskiy 3 Zykov 4 Saulite (c) 5 Krasilnik 6 Temnov 7 Orlov 8 Gargalyk 9 Sherban 10 Kushnarev 11 Simplikevich 12 Gerasimov 13 Kacharava 14 Baranov 15 Gaisin 16 Magomedov 17 Morozov 18 Pronenko 19 Rudoi 20 Budychenko 21 Uzunov 22 Mikhaltsov 23 Elgin

Bordeaux Bègles line-up:

1 Paiva 2 Avei 3 Ravai 4 Aliouat 5 Cazeaux 6 Roumat 7 Chalmers 8 Tauleigne 9 Doubrere 10 Jalibert 11 Etcheverry 12 Uberti 13 Dubie (c) 14 Talebulamaijaina 15 Domvo 16 Dufour 17 Poux 18 Tabidze 19 Gayraud 20 Woki 21 Kamikamica 22 Lesgourgues 23 Schoeman

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby 4N » Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 14:35

That's a strong team. Gargalic at 8 is interesting.

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