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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 12 May 2019, 08:06

Five Georgians came to Slava !

Mikhail Oragvelidze - 31-year old

Robert Sutidze - 29-year old

Revaz Brodzeli - 24-year old

Sandro Iluridze - 23-year old

Saba Iluridze - 22 year

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Re: Russian Rugby

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Tue, 14 May 2019, 18:03

3,500 fans on Loko v Slava

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Tue, 14 May 2019, 20:19

looks nice the attendance!
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby qwerty » Tue, 14 May 2019, 21:57

Penza seems to be somewhat of a rugby stronghold - not like Krasnoyarsk of course, but still.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Wed, 15 May 2019, 05:10

Nice crowd!

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby vino_93 » Wed, 15 May 2019, 12:08

Great !

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 17 May 2019, 17:25

Kuban - VVA tomorrow 17.00 Moscow time

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 May 2019, 18:39

“Lokomotiv” - “Bulava” tomorrow 18.00 Moscow time

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 19 May 2019, 10:15

Metallurg - Slava



We are waiting for start of broadcast
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 19 May 2019, 10:37

It seems the broadcast today will not ...
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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 19 May 2019, 10:39

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Mon, 20 May 2019, 14:07

Russian Cup final. Top game!!!

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Raven » Tue, 21 May 2019, 13:50

So Andrey Morozov (Sale Sharks) and Andrei Ostrikov (confirmed for Grenoble next season) appear to be the only foreign based players in the Russian squad during the last REC...

But are the following 3 in any preliminary listo of potential RWC call ups?

Anton Gatti (Hooker / Conad Valorugby Reggio - Italy Super 10)
Serge Sergueev (2nd Row / Montauban - France ProD2)
Nikita Bekov (2nd Row / Suresnes - France Federale 1)

I know that playing abroad doesn´t necesarily mean they are better than local players, but they would probably be exposed to an overall higher level of rugby week in week out.
And just out of curiosity, am I missing on any other Russian overseas based player?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 21 May 2019, 18:29

I dont know first player, but remember Arturo Gatti ...
Sergeev is a shit who refused to play for Russia when was needed and now he can watch WC on TV.
Bekov unfortunately does not have sufficient qualifications.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby ZUKER » Wed, 22 May 2019, 11:20

Raven wrote:So Andrey Morozov (Sale Sharks) and Andrei Ostrikov (confirmed for Grenoble next season) appear to be the only foreign based players in the Russian squad during the last REC...

But are the following 3 in any preliminary listo of potential RWC call ups?

Anton Gatti (Hooker / Conad Valorugby Reggio - Italy Super 10)
Serge Sergueev (2nd Row / Montauban - France ProD2)
Nikita Bekov (2nd Row / Suresnes - France Federale 1)

I know that playing abroad doesn´t necesarily mean they are better than local players, but they would probably be exposed to an overall higher level of rugby week in week out.
And just out of curiosity, am I missing on any other Russian overseas based player?


There is a list of ex-Russians who actually might be included into the Squad for WC. Ischenko and Vartanov could be converted via 7`, Chepizubov brothers did not even be contacted by russian staff.
Sergueev has refused to join Pervukhin`s training camp in HK because this was out of international window and he has a contract to play for Montauban. After this case the Staff did not contact him.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Raven » Wed, 22 May 2019, 13:22

ZUKER wrote:There is a list of ex-Russians who actually might be included into the Squad for WC. Ischenko and Vartanov could be converted via 7`, Chepizubov brothers did not even be contacted by russian staff.
Sergueev has refused to join Pervukhin`s training camp in HK because this was out of international window and he has a contract to play for Montauban. After this case the Staff did not contact him.

Ischenko and Vartanov are really potential converts via 7s?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby ZUKER » Wed, 22 May 2019, 15:31

Raven wrote:
ZUKER wrote:There is a list of ex-Russians who actually might be included into the Squad for WC. Ischenko and Vartanov could be converted via 7`, Chepizubov brothers did not even be contacted by russian staff.
Sergueev has refused to join Pervukhin`s training camp in HK because this was out of international window and he has a contract to play for Montauban. After this case the Staff did not contact him.

Ischenko and Vartanov are really potential converts via 7s?


Both used to play for France U20, so convertion via 7s was available. Though Russia is lost this option as of today

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Raven » Wed, 22 May 2019, 16:00

Ok, so it wasn´t something that had been in the plans per se, just you thinking that there was a possibility.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby beber » Fri, 24 May 2019, 22:07

Impressive to see second division team Strela Kazan, in addition of bringing south african coach JP Nel, signed 4 south africans and a nambian and played their cup game against Kuban in 25k seats Central Stadium, in front a nice crowd.

I wish to see them in Premier Liga ASAP

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 25 May 2019, 11:44

There was a live broadcast of this match on the largest regional TV channel TNV. For Strela it was the first match of the season, but 60 minutes was absolutely equal match. In the second half, they made a super try. The score was 8-14. But Strela has no equivalent replacements yet, so Kuban make three tries at the end. Even now, the Strela is stronger than the Bulava, approximately at the same level as Metallurg and Lokomotiv.

The head of the club is Alexey Pesoshin. He is also the prime minister of Tatarstan. This is one of the rich regions of Russia. They have several top clubs in various sports (hockey, football, volleyball, basketball) with huge budgets. The potential is so huge. Even higher than winning the championship of Russia.

http://president.tatar.ru/rus/pressa/ph ... 221787.htm

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Silver Fox » Sat, 25 May 2019, 11:55

It's exciting to read about potentially so much investment coming in.
But to raise the level of the teams are they bringing in loads of foreign players?
Or are there also long term plans for investment in and connections with grass roots and age grade development?

If not, all these stories and promise mean little.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 25 May 2019, 12:14

Not only. Most of these are local players who used to play rugby-13, then for several years they played for the Strela before bankruptcy and another local club Energia. The local rugby school is strong enough. Kazan has an excellent infrastructure for rugby. There is a Tulpar stadium with an artificial field, there is a huge indoor arena for training in the winter.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby Silver Fox » Sat, 25 May 2019, 12:41

Great.
Don't get me wrong. I cheer for all upcoming nations and the more can challenge the established order the better.
I have just learned not to keep my hopes up too high for being dissappointed again.

I understood from the MLR in the US for example that they are obliged to also develop regional structures and pathways for up and coming players.
That gives reason to be somewhat confident for the future.
I hadn't read about such requirements or structures behind all these Russian financial injections.

But thanks for reassuring me, at least to a degree.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Postby STMKY » Sat, 25 May 2019, 13:22

Of course, there are risks when a big boss model in a club and all funding depends only on it. There are risks, but there are almost unlimited prospects. One can even assume that a world-class star will play in Strela. But for the time being we can judge them only by indirect signs.
There is another promising club. CSKA Moscow. This is a former amateur club. Yesterday they lost to Lokomotiv 13-39. It was also a good match. They talk about their goals openly. Victory in the Russian Championship 2023 and the creation of 100 local CSKA rugby sections for children in Moscow. They have a bottom development model. Due to the large number of rich fans of CSKA, they find different sponsors in Moscow. They also showed a stadium project with 4000 seats.
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