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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby ZUKER » Tue, 19 May 2020, 09:59

STMKY wrote:I noticed a slight trend. In the last couple of years, several rugby players from Kazakhstan (6-8 people) have come to Russia to Kuban and Bulava. Of these, only one is Kazakh, the rest are all Russian. This is due to the growth of nationalism in Kazakhstan. Many people go from Kazakhstan to Russia. For reference, in 1991 there were more than 50% of Russians in Kazakhstan. Now about 20% is left. But while all these players have not played in the Russian Premier League. But there is one young promising prop Vladislav Artemenko (19 years old). He is already played for Russia U18. And in the winter he left Kuban for Beziers.


FYI - Kazakhstan have never been under nationalism behavior. Because of Kazakh have never been of major nation. The level of income is high enough to do not leave the Country on behalf of Russia. 20% of Russians are also stay there and 30% who had left were ethnic "russian germans"

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Chester-Donnelly » Tue, 19 May 2020, 10:12

ZUKER wrote:
STMKY wrote:I noticed a slight trend. In the last couple of years, several rugby players from Kazakhstan (6-8 people) have come to Russia to Kuban and Bulava. Of these, only one is Kazakh, the rest are all Russian. This is due to the growth of nationalism in Kazakhstan. Many people go from Kazakhstan to Russia. For reference, in 1991 there were more than 50% of Russians in Kazakhstan. Now about 20% is left. But while all these players have not played in the Russian Premier League. But there is one young promising prop Vladislav Artemenko (19 years old). He is already played for Russia U18. And in the winter he left Kuban for Beziers.


FYI - Kazakhstan have never been under nationalism behavior. Because of Kazakh have never been of major nation. The level of income is high enough to do not leave the Country on behalf of Russia. 20% of Russians are also stay there and 30% who had left were ethnic "russian germans"


Did many Jews leave for Israel?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Tue, 19 May 2020, 12:27

I can say that there are very few Jews left on territory of former USSR. They can mainly be seen only on TV.
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Tue, 19 May 2020, 12:36

Compared to Israel Kazakhstan certainly differs in a positive way. They dont keep Russians behind barbed wire, but annually 30-40 thousand move to Russia, and Germans have almost all left for a long time. Now there are about 150 000 of them ...
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Tue, 19 May 2020, 13:27

Story was interesting. Former footballer of Spartak Moscow German Edgar Hess lived in Medvedkovo and told.
He played for Uzbek “Pakhtakor” and he was invited to Moscow Dynamo.
Dynamo - club of Ministry of Internal Affairs and was not accepted because of its name!
Invite Himmler! :lol:

He was accepted by trade union "Spartak" and he became champion of USSR 1979 ...

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Tue, 19 May 2020, 14:23

first training session Strela Kazan.


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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby ZUKER » Tue, 19 May 2020, 15:45

Chester-Donnelly wrote:
ZUKER wrote:
STMKY wrote:I noticed a slight trend. In the last couple of years, several rugby players from Kazakhstan (6-8 people) have come to Russia to Kuban and Bulava. Of these, only one is Kazakh, the rest are all Russian. This is due to the growth of nationalism in Kazakhstan. Many people go from Kazakhstan to Russia. For reference, in 1991 there were more than 50% of Russians in Kazakhstan. Now about 20% is left. But while all these players have not played in the Russian Premier League. But there is one young promising prop Vladislav Artemenko (19 years old). He is already played for Russia U18. And in the winter he left Kuban for Beziers.


FYI - Kazakhstan have never been under nationalism behavior. Because of Kazakh have never been of major nation. The level of income is high enough to do not leave the Country on behalf of Russia. 20% of Russians are also stay there and 30% who had left were ethnic "russian germans"


Did many Jews leave for Israel?


Actually Jews community in Kazakhstan was grew up rapidly in the beggining of IIWW due to jews evacuations from occupied territories. In 70-90th just 5000 from 40000 left for Israel/US. Now the community is biggest than other ex-USSR Asian Countries, couple of years ago the Grand Sinagogue has been built in Alma-Ata sponsored by Govs

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby STMKY » Tue, 19 May 2020, 15:52

Rachkov from Alma-Ata. And Grachev from Tashkent.
You do not know the situation in Kazakhstan well. Yes, the Russian Germans leave Kazakhstan almost all in the 90s. Several hundred thousand people. But the ethnic Russians leave after 1991 several times more. Several million people. Nationalism in Kazakhstan is very serious. Local Russians do not see prospects there. Them closed the way to public office. Kazakhstan pursues a policy of an ethnocratic state. That is, they said that the Kazakhs are the titular nation. And everyone else can guess for yourself. In local history books, Russia is called the occupier. The historical Russian cities in Kazakhstan are renamed, renamed streets and everything connected with the Russians.
Statistics from Kazakhstan.
1989 (total population 16.460 million)
Kazakhs - 6.540 million
Russians - 7,300 million
Germans - 960 thousand
2020 (18.630 million)
Kazakhs - 12.760 million
Russians - 3.830 million
Germans - 180 thousand
That is, the number of Kazakhs due to the high birth rate and the policy of the ethnocratic state has doubled. Due to the migration of Kazakhs from China, Uzbekistan and other countries. The number of Russians decreased by 2 times. The number of Russian Germans decreased by more than 5 times.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby STMKY » Tue, 19 May 2020, 15:59

About 1.5 million Russian Jews live in Israel. And they themselves are a little shocked by the rest of the Jews. They have Russian-language media and bloggers. Once I watched one such blogger. Dimon from Kharkov. He ridiculously criticizes Israel. He called Israel ironically "the country of milk and honey." And showed reality.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Tue, 19 May 2020, 15:59

How is Kazakh championship? How many clubs are in their top division and where they are located?
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby STMKY » Tue, 19 May 2020, 16:07

It seems to exist. But his level is very weak.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Tue, 19 May 2020, 16:48

Yes, but how is it?
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby STMKY » Wed, 20 May 2020, 14:28

Tomorrow, the director of Krasny Yar Sergey Chuprov will answer questions from fans. If you want, you can ask questions. I can translate into Russian.
https://rugger.info/news/33210

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Chester-Donnelly » Wed, 20 May 2020, 14:37

STMKY wrote:Tomorrow, the director of Krasny Yar Sergey Chuprov will answer questions from fans. If you want, you can ask questions. I can translate into Russian.
https://rugger.info/news/33210


Can you ask him what are the plans for Kontinental Rugby Liga in 2021? Are are there any plans to add more teams?

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby STMKY » Wed, 20 May 2020, 14:45

It makes no sense to ask this question. This issue is being dealt with in Moscow. Moreover, now hardly anyone has an understanding of this issue.

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Re: Russian Rugby

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 20 May 2020, 17:29

VOVA, dare I correct, Gess moved to Spartak Moskva from Pamir Doshambe, Tocikiston

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Wed, 20 May 2020, 17:58

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:VOVA, dare I correct, Gess moved to Spartak Moskva from Pamir Doshambe, Tocikiston

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No, from Pakhtakor.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0 ... 0%B8%D1%87
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby ZUKER » Wed, 20 May 2020, 20:26

Vova12 wrote:
FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:VOVA, dare I correct, Gess moved to Spartak Moskva from Pamir Doshambe, Tocikiston

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No, from Pakhtakor.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0 ... 0%B8%D1%87


As per the link from Pamir to Spartak to Pakhtakor

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Wed, 20 May 2020, 20:47

Interesting. All my life thought that he came from Pakhtakor ...
I played against him on school field in our district .
Probably memory is that he moved to Pakhtakor after Spartak.
I played against veterans of Spartak. Gavrilov, Shavlo, Bukievsky, Kechinov, Mamedov, Kuzhlev ...
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Wed, 20 May 2020, 20:56

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I in bottom row in yellow jacket of Australia rugby team. Standing third from right Viktor Kanunnikov player of USSR in 1974.
Spartak veterans - alcoholics Medvedkovo.
By the way we won ... :D
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Wed, 20 May 2020, 21:17

I have not been to Spartak football matches for more than 10 years. Some foreigners and strangers are playing there ... I dont even watch broadcasts, only reviews sometimes.

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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby victorsra » Wed, 20 May 2020, 23:35

Vova12 wrote:I have not been to Spartak football matches for more than 10 years. Some foreigners and strangers are playing there ... I dont even watch broadcasts, only reviews sometimes.



Well, the whole Russian football is full of foreign players for quite some time.... in fact, every professional football league in the world has foreign players, even the very poor ones...
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Thu, 21 May 2020, 04:41

For me this is now a foreign club. I dont even know exactly who is playing there right now...
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Re: Russian Rugby

Unread postby Vova12 » Thu, 21 May 2020, 04:52

Now football in Russia is a community of lazy people who receive money for nothing.
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