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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Tobar » Wed, 02 Jan 2019, 22:01

So the same name as the French pro league hah. It’s s good name tho.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby gambass » Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 14:59

https://twitter.com/repor_olimpico/stat ... 2898213888

Rugby was the 10th most often mentioned sport during last year TVE dailynews (4th team sport)

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 15:21

Anyway it's a bit exaggerated due to RWC qualifying, REC mess, Bilbao EPCR finals and women's 7s success at San Francisco plus other sports penalised because their broadcasting rights are owned by private TV channels.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 17:30

FER has decided to host Copa del Rey final at Central, Madrid. Absurd decision that takes the event backwards by three or four years. They cowardly claim it's because Cisneros celebrates its 75th anniversary. All REC games for the last two seasons have been there, as well as men's test matches this November and women's game v Scotland next week. They've got a good product in hands and they set it in the place that already has more rugby activity in the country. Ridiculous.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 12 Jan 2019, 13:41

Liga Heineken - Week 14 - Live Streaming
Saturday 16:00 CET - Sanitas Alcobendas v Ampo Ordizia

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 13 Jan 2019, 10:33

Liga Heineken - Week 14 - Live Streaming
Sunday 11:45 CET - UE Santboiana v Barça Rugbi


Sunday 12:00 CET - Hernani v La Vila


Sunday 12:00 CET - Bizkaia Gernika v SilverStorm El Salvador


Sunday 12:30 CET - VRAC Quesos Entrepinares v Complutense Cisneros


Sunday 12:30 CET - Aldro Independiente v UBU-Colina Clinic
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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby la vaca » Sun, 13 Jan 2019, 11:32

Tdp fails again

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 13:04

Liga Heineken - Week 14 - Results and Standings
VRAC Quesos Entrepinares 36 - 25 Complutense Cisneros (hard fought for VRAC, Cisneros was leading well into the game. Alberto Blanco injured and will miss REC)
Sanitas Alcobendas 27 - 33 Ampo Ordizia (lots of missing players in Alcobendas, thinking about Cup semifinals, but Ordizia was really superior)
Bizkaia Gernika 12 - 31 SilverStorm El Salvador
UE Santboiana 19 - 22 Barça Rugbi (great comeback by Barça, winning with a drop goal)
Aldro Independiente 27 - 31 UBU-Colina Clinic (another scalp for Burgos team, which keeps close to playoff spots)
Hernani 22 - 16 La Vila

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This weekend we've got Cup semifinals: Hernani v Barça and Alcobendas v El Salvador. A few last-minute signings for the two last teams, including Elton Jantjies brother Tony in Alcobendas.

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Amazing referee mistake in one of the top games from División de Honor B Pool A, CRAT v Getxo. Fortunately CRAT won it in the end.

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A stat that proves the limits of current Liga Heineken TV coverage: a tape delay game from Liga Iberdrola (women's league) reached a bigger audience this weekend only in Madrid than 90 or 95% of men's games on national TV... This will be a big challenge for clubs association.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby iul » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 13:19

How many TV viewers does the tipical Heineken League match have? Do you have a list of averages for other sports?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 13:35

It depends on the hour it gets broadcast, but around 30,000 is a good figure already. 60,000 for good ones. Women got 66,000 only in Madrid.

It's hard to compare with other sports since football and basketball are behind a paywall. Handball or futsal get more or less the same.

Anyway we could discuss a lot on how TV metrics are unreliable...

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby iul » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 13:59

Armchair Fan wrote:It depends on the hour it gets broadcast, but around 30,000 is a good figure already. 60,000 for good ones. Women got 66,000 only in Madrid.

It's hard to compare with other sports since football and basketball are behind a paywall. Handball or futsal get more or less the same.

Anyway we could discuss a lot on how TV metrics are unreliable...

What sort of TV deals do handball and futsal have, in terms of money?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 14:18

Handball probably gets something but not too much, they are coming back to FTA deal in a private TV after years behind a paywall where audience sunk. Futsal has probably the same deal as rugby (same channel) but is more settled (it's always on Saturday midday live, rugby often dances in the TV guide).

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 17 Jan 2019, 16:15

Due to reasonable criticism on their decision to hold Cup final in Madrid, FER has decided to issue a statement:
"This Cup edition has as a novelty that all four semifinalists will receive a financial help from scratch. This is due to the fact FER included in the requirements to host the final that 8,000€ from the fee would be distributed among the four semifinalists: 1,000€ for each one of the clubs hosting semifinals and 3,000€ for visiting teams. Furthermore each one of the finalists will receive 7% of ticketing revenues, being assured of at least 4,000€ for their participation in the final.

Final will be held next April 28 in Madrid, precisely at Estadio Central de la Universidad Complutense and will be promoted by Complutense Cisneros, after being considered the best of all four bids considered. Madrid club's bid, which specified the release of a bank document worth 15,000€ as a guarantee, offered better conditions than the rest like capacity, a share of profits derived of competition naming rights for FER, a decrease in the number of tickets sold needed to generate a profit for FER, a fan zone and merchandising area, as well as profits for FER derived of all sponsorship attracted by promoters".

http://ferugby.es/noticias2.php?titulo= ... finalistas

Great for their transparency (although I'd have liked to know what the other three bids were), but out of 6 arguments given to justify Madrid as final host, five are directly related to financial aspects. It's as if nobody thought of the little interest for the sake of promotion of rugby in the country another big event in Madrid generates and how much media and fan interest we lost by playing in the usual rugby venue instead of a decent football stadium...

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 10:05

Copa del Rey 2019 - Semifinals - Live Streaming
12:00 CET - Hernani v Barça Rugbi


12:30 CET - Sanitas Alcobendas v SilverStorm El Salvador


P.S: Spain v Scotland women's test match is watchable here http://www.rtve.es/directo/teledeporte/

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 11:28

Copa del Rey 2019 - Semifinals - Results and highlights
Hernani 10 - 22 Barça Rugbi
Sanitas Alcobendas 18 - 9 SilverStorm El Salvador




Disappointing performance by El Salvador, which means Valladolid won't be represented at Cup final for the first time since 2009. First final for Alcobendas since 2003 and first one for Barça since... 1985, which doesn't prevent them from being the most successful team in the competition (16 titles, 22 finals).

Valladolid mayor started to heat atmosphere by claiming Madrid won't be able to gather more than 5,000 spectators in a local radio show...

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 27 Jan 2019, 11:10

Liga Heineken - Week 15 - Live Streaming
12:00 CET - La Vila v VRAC Quesos Entrepinares


12:00 CET - Ampo Ordizia v Aldro Independiente


12:00 CET - Barça Rugbi v Bizkaia Gernika
http://api.gooru.live/v2.0/public/library/483207.html

12:00 CET - Complutense Cisneros v UE Santboiana
http://api.gooru.live/v2.0/public/library/483287.html

12:30 CET - UBU-Colina Clinic v Hernani


12:30 CET - SilverStorm El Salvador v Sanitas Alcobendas
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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 17:05

Spanish extended squad for the 2019 REC opener against Russia
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As always, don't trust too much positions and expect changes during the week.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Tue, 29 Jan 2019, 15:59

gambass wrote:https://twitter.com/repor_olimpico/status/1080866012898213888

Rugby was the 10th most often mentioned sport during last year TVE dailynews (4th team sport)

That's not too bad.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 30 Jan 2019, 18:27

Liga Heineken - Week 15 - Results and Standings
La Vila 20 - 44 VRAC Quesos Entrepinares
SilverStorm El Salvador 33 - 25 Sanitas Alcobendas (El Salvador took revenge from Cup defeat and seems solid for 2nd place)
Ampo Ordizia 11 - 11 Aldro Independiente (surprising short draw from two attacking sides)
Barça Rugbi 21 - 17 Bizkaia Gernika
UBU-Colina Clinic 46 - 18 Hernani
Complutense Cisneros 33 - 27 UE Santboiana (great performances recently allow Cisneros to escape relegation fears)

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby qwerty » Thu, 31 Jan 2019, 02:19

Has it been long since the last time Valladolid didn't have both 1st and 2nd Place?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 31 Jan 2019, 10:42

In regular season? Since 2014-2015. But they've been champions since 2012.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 31 Jan 2019, 11:53

Told you, only three days later FER already made changes to the squad for Russia: Gibouin and Levy out, Minguillon and Puig in. And they won't be the only changes if we are to believe media reports so far.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Thomas » Thu, 31 Jan 2019, 16:17

How many players get cut from the camp or will he take the whole lot and then reduce to the 25?

Also who do you reckon is your 10? that's Spain's weakness.

* I was going to say re-reading the team sheet of 29 the 2nd line looks impressive.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 31 Jan 2019, 17:37

Theoretically there will be 29 players in the camp and we will only get to know the 23 chosen ones on Friday before the game.

Nobody has an idea on who the hell is going to be #10. Calle is absent after his departure to National League 1, Peluchon seems to have been retained in Fédérale 1 and there are big doubts about Linklater's presence, so we are truly in the unknown. I know Puig was in Santos' plans for later in the tournament, but who knows what is he capable of at this level. Genua is rather a scrum-half than a fly-half. We could very well see Andrew Norton there.

If I had to bet right now it would be:
1. Fernando López
2. Beñat Auzqui
3. Xerom Civil
4. Mickaël de Marco
5. Joshua Peters
6. Asier Usárraga
7. Lucas Guillaume
8. Kalo Kalo Gavidi
9. Lucas Rubio
10. Andrew Norton
11. Federico Casteglioni
12. Alvar Gimeno
13. Richard Stewart
14. Jordi Jorba
15. Gauthier Minguillon

16. Francisco Blanco
17. Quentin Garcia
18. Jon Zabala
19. Daniel Stöhr
20. Manu Mora
21. Facundo Munilla
22. Andrea Rábago
23. Julen Goia

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 01 Feb 2019, 17:34

Third version of the list for REC debut. Almost comical:
https://www.rugbyelsalvador.com/victor- ... -del-leon/

Brad Linklater is out as rumoured and Michael Walker-Fitton and Artion Kovalenko (son of Andrei Kovalenko) have been called.

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