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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 18 May 2017, 12:50

At last some good news... This is our squad to play England Counties:
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And this one for Nations Cup:
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I'd say it's the strongest line-up we've ever sent to June test window. A very pleasant surprise.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Bogdan_DC » Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:00

Armchair Fan wrote:I'd say it's the strongest line-up we've ever sent to June test window. A very pleasant surprise.

Surprising Spanish Union like always :).But this year your team looks more composed than ever to be fair.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby amz » Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:17

If that is the strongest lineup I think England Counties will be in serious trouble. When they played CSM Bucharest reserves here or youngsters from SL they weren't far off this level.

A full test T2 regular side, as Spain, may be too much for them. I really hope Leones will beat them with a big margin.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:54

I don't know, our butt is still sore after they beat Spain 6-55 six years ago. And if you have a closer look to both squads, most of French pros won't be playing against England Counties because they are contractually obliged to rest for four weeks after the end of their club season.

The most interesting thing is to keep giving high quality minutes to youngsters from last two seasons U20: Jorba, Gimeno, and Zabala plus newcomers Mateu and Rábago.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby olivier » Thu, 18 May 2017, 17:01

Spain keep calling new Spanish-French ! Spain is working hard to build its strongest ever squad to beat Romania and take the Europe 1 spot.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 18 May 2017, 18:03

There are only two really new additions born in France, Fred Quercy and Rudy Derrieux. Custoja and Guillaume were involved in last REC (Custoja got injured before playing, Guillaume only played some minutes against Georgia). And Andréa Rabago has been playing for U20s.

I'd say the French way is close to expiring and except for some guys that we try in Nations Cup (just have a look to names that were called for 2016 tournament and never came back) what we have right now in seniors, U20 and U18 is what we will have for the next 15 years. At least some of them are still very young.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 20 May 2017, 16:08

First División de Honor semifinal, VRAC Quesos Entrepinares v Sanitas Alcobendas, is now live:

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 22 May 2017, 12:37

As written by Canalina in the Small News topic, División de Honor will have a Valladolid local derby as its final again. VRAC beat Alcobendas 19-6 and El Salvador took its revenge over Santboiana (32-16). Final will be broadcast live by Eurosport 2 Spain... but due to its scheduling requests, it will take place at the very same time as Real Valladolid football game :oops:


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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Canalina » Tue, 23 May 2017, 20:35

Will it be also free streamed somewhere?
I suppose not

The El Salvador's sponsor Hermi, a rabbit meat seller with a tender little rabbit as logo, is quite weird for we italians. Even more the twitter message with a bunny head and a big knife! https://s7.postimg.org/91xttknor/Copia_ ... _copia.jpg
The meat of rabbit is eaten also in Italy (my grandparents used to eat it quite often) but it's like an hidden habit; I've never seen in Italy an advertising about rabbit meat

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 23 May 2017, 23:29

I'd say I've only eaten rabbit once, it isn't bizarre but we don't consume it very often either :D

I don't think it will be live streamed for free, although the final should be uploaded to FER YouTube channel.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby iul » Wed, 24 May 2017, 04:46

Over here rabbit meat is suuuuuper expensive, so it's no wonder we don't each much of it

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 24 May 2017, 06:06

I must say it isn't the most bizarre meat ever eaten in Spain. In Valencia they used to eat paella with water vole... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_water_vole

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Dosnar » Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:43

Armchair Fan wrote:I must say it isn't the most bizarre meat ever eaten in Spain. In Valencia they used to eat paella with water vole... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_water_vole


Not that it was consumed, it was a delicatessen.
Now it is a protected species and indicates that the water of the marshes is not contaminated.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 27 May 2017, 03:01

We've got update official figures on registered players in Spain, from Spanish government

Year - Players - Rank - Share - Growth
1990 - 14,070 - 26th - 0.61% - X
1999 - 14,538 - 24th - 0.57% - X
2004 - 15,973 - 29th - 0,53% - X
2005 - 16,092 - 26th - 0.51% - +0.8%
2006 - 16,873 - 26th - 0.53% - +4.9%
2007 - 17,346 - 29th - 0.52% - +2.8%
2008 - 19,448 - 27th - 0.57% - +12.1%
2009 - 19,770 - 27th - 0.57% - +1.7%
2010 - 20,972 - 26th - 0.60% - +6.1%
2011 - 22,347 - 26th - 0.63% - +6.6%
2012 - 24,849 - 24th - 0.71% - +11.2%
2013 - 23,763 - 24th - 0.70% - -4.4% (FER's financial crisis)
2014 - 25,892 - 22nd - 0.76% - +9%
2015 - 28,479 - 23rd - 0.81% - +10%
2016 - 31,692 - 22nd - 0.88% - +11.3%


Gender breakdown
Year: Gender 1 - Players - Share - Rank / Gender 2 - Players - Share - Rank - Growth
2011: Men - 21,037 - 94.1% - 21st / Women - 1,310 - 5.9% - 43rd
2012: Men - 23,195 - 93.3% - 18th - +10.3% / Women - 1,654 - 6.7% - 35th - +26%
2013: Men - 22,083 - 92.9% - 18th - -4.8% / Women - 1,680 - 7.1% - 33rd - +1.6% (f****** FER crisis)
2014: Men - 23,319 - 90.1% - 19th - +5.6% / Women - 2,573 - 9.9% - 30th - +53%
2015: Men - 25,341 - 89% - 18th - +8.7% / Women - 3,138 - 11% - 28th - +22%
2016: Men - 27,361 - 86.3% - 18th - +8% / Women - 4,331 - 13.7% - 22nd - +38%


Clubs
2006 – 205 rugby clubs in Spain
2007 – 209
2008 – 210
2009 – 212
2010 – 211
2011 – 214
2012 – 218
2013 – 224
2014 – 226
2015 – 259
2016 - 282

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Sat, 27 May 2017, 03:37

Armchair Fan wrote:We've got update official figures on registered players in Spain, from Spanish government

Year - Players - Rank - Share - Growth
1990 - 14,070 - 26th - 0.61% - X
1999 - 14,538 - 24th - 0.57% - X
2004 - 15,973 - 29th - 0,53% - X
2005 - 16,092 - 26th - 0.51% - +0.8%
2006 - 16,873 - 26th - 0.53% - +4.9%
2007 - 17,346 - 29th - 0.52% - +2.8%
2008 - 19,448 - 27th - 0.57% - +12.1%
2009 - 19,770 - 27th - 0.57% - +1.7%
2010 - 20,972 - 26th - 0.60% - +6.1%
2011 - 22,347 - 26th - 0.63% - +6.6%
2012 - 24,849 - 24th - 0.71% - +11.2%
2013 - 23,763 - 24th - 0.70% - -4.4% (FER's financial crisis)
2014 - 25,892 - 22nd - 0.76% - +9%
2015 - 28,479 - 23rd - 0.81% - +10%
2016 - 31,692 - 22nd - 0.88% - +11.3%


Gender breakdown
Year: Gender 1 - Players - Share - Rank / Gender 2 - Players - Share - Rank - Growth
2011: Men - 21,037 - 94.1% - 21st / Women - 1,310 - 5.9% - 43rd
2012: Men - 23,195 - 93.3% - 18th - +10.3% / Women - 1,654 - 6.7% - 35th - +26%
2013: Men - 22,083 - 92.9% - 18th - -4.8% / Women - 1,680 - 7.1% - 33rd - +1.6% (f****** FER crisis)
2014: Men - 23,319 - 90.1% - 19th - +5.6% / Women - 2,573 - 9.9% - 30th - +53%
2015: Men - 25,341 - 89% - 18th - +8.7% / Women - 3,138 - 11% - 28th - +22%
2016: Men - 27,361 - 86.3% - 18th - +8% / Women - 4,331 - 13.7% - 22nd - +38%


Clubs
2006 – 205 rugby clubs in Spain
2007 – 209
2008 – 210
2009 – 212
2010 – 211
2011 – 214
2012 – 218
2013 – 224
2014 – 226
2015 – 259
2016 - 282


Those are some very respectable figure regarding the growth of the game. The key for the game will be maintaining those growth rates for further extended periods particularly as the player numbers grow.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby RugInt » Sat, 27 May 2017, 12:52

The game on 3 June is not a test match. It's being billed as Spain XV v England Counties. Spain will not be awarding test caps.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 02 Jun 2017, 11:12

On FER website it appears as a fully capped game, but we all know how serious they are... There have been some tweaks in the squad for this game:
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VRAC Quesos Entrepinares became Spanish champions again after beating SilverStorm El Salvador in an ugly local derby (6-15):


And La Vila gained promotion to División de Honor after beating UBU-Colina (Burgos) in a very close home and away play-off. Burgos will have another chance against Getxo, which finished 11th in División de Honor.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 03 Jun 2017, 15:01

Spain v England Counties streaming (click on Atletismo / Rugby):
http://www.rtve.es/deportes/mas-tdp/directo/

HT 7-33. It's getting very ugly... Our attack is ok, but defense... :shock:

FT, 28-45. Nice comeback but it wasn't enough to compensate that awful first half.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby olivier » Sat, 03 Jun 2017, 16:48

Armchair Fan wrote:Spain v England Counties streaming (click on Atletismo / Rugby):
http://www.rtve.es/deportes/mas-tdp/directo/

HT 7-33. It's getting very ugly... Our attack is ok, but defense... :shock:

FT, 28-45. Nice comeback but it wasn't enough to compensate that awful first half.

Did Rabago start ?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 03 Jun 2017, 17:02

No, he entered the field in the second half. Quite good.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sun, 04 Jun 2017, 20:01

Very interesting radio show in French from Madrid Town Hall station about the close ties between Spanish and French rugby:
https://podcast.m21radio.es/2017/6/2017 ... 6_2017.mp3

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Spain v England Counties full game:

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 03 Jul 2017, 09:43

2016-17 season Ideal XV from Spanish Rugby Union, voted by coaches and journalists:


1) Fernando López (Ampo Ordizia)
2) Juan Anaya (Sanitas Alcobendas)
3) Alberto Blanco (VRAC Quesos Entrepinares)
4) Liam Mitchell (UE Santboiana) - Most Voted Player, unfortunately he's returning to NZ
5) Kalo Kalo Gavidi (VRAC Quesos Entrepinares)
6) Iñaki Villanueva (Sanitas Alcobendas)
7) Gonzalo Núñez (SilverStorm El Salvador)
8) Afa Tauli (UE Santboiana) - Seems to have rejected an offer from France
9) Juan Ramos (SilverStorm El Salvador)
10) Brad Linklater (Sanitas Alcobendas)
11) Jean-Yves Zebango (SilverStorm El Salvador) - Returns to France after two years in Valladolid
12) Matenga Baker (UE Santboiana) - Returns to NZ
13) Henry Rust (Ampo Ordizia) - Status for next season yet to be known
14) Arturo Íñiguez (Sanitas Alcobendas)
15) Perico Martín (Sanitas Alcobendas) - Status for next season yet to be known

Coach: Lewis Williams (UE Santboiana)

Spanish XV captain Jaime Nava has confirmed his return to Sanitas Alcobendas after a decade playing in England or France. He's signed for two years with RWC as his last goal.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Figaro » Tue, 04 Jul 2017, 11:15

Who are the England Counties players, what level do they play at? Are they like a Championship Select or lower than that?

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 04 Jul 2017, 11:21

Young National League 1 players, although some already go on tour with the future sealed on Championship sides.

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Re: Spanish rugby

Postby Figaro » Wed, 05 Jul 2017, 11:19

Armchair Fan wrote:Young National League 1 players, although some already go on tour with the future sealed on Championship sides.


Thanks. That's frustrating, Spain should expect to be able to put away a team at that level.

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