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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Wed, 10 Jul 2019, 14:37

Have read many times on this Forum that N.AM and S.AM should UNITE in RUGBY

Last Friday exactly the opposite was discussed by HANDBALL top guns --
they are splitting single AMERICAN CONFEDERATION into North and South

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby 4N » Wed, 10 Jul 2019, 14:46

They should absolutely stay separate.

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby victorsra » Wed, 10 Jul 2019, 18:26

They won't unite because they'd loose chairs in the WR Council.... that's the only reason. They already merged their top two 15-a-side competitions and there are discussions about a pan-american sevens series in the future.
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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby rey200 » Wed, 10 Jul 2019, 19:43

well, they still have to make sure to have a FAIR World Cup Qualifying system.
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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 11 Jul 2019, 07:14

To be fair, especially NAm got no reason to do so. They profit a lot from every single qualification system. 1,625 spots for a continent with two teams in the top 50 (okay Cayman is currently 50th) is a very good deal. Hopefully pressure will come from SAm, as there are actually some hopeful teams in line, which are not more or less a fun side filled with expats.

Just to see some data as of July 11th 2019
Teams in the top50:
NAm: 3 (1 in top20) (RWC places: 1,625) Chance of all top 20 teams qualifying 100%
SAm: 6 (2 in top 20) (RWC places: 1,625) Chance of all top 20 teams qualifying 62,5%
Eur: 22 (10 in top 20) (RWC places: 8,625) Chance of all top 20 teams qualifying 0%
Asia: 6 (1 in top 20) (RWC places: 1,125) Chance of all top 20 teams qualifying 100%
Oceania: 5 (5 in top 20) (RWC places: 4,75) Chance of all top 20 teams qualifying 75%
Africa: 8 (1 in top 20) (RWC places: 2,25) Chance of all top 20 teams qualifying 100%
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Canalina » Fri, 19 Jul 2019, 05:35

RAN U19 in Barbados
Half-timed matches (20'+20'). Just the final will be 35'+35'

Scores updated https://rugbyamericasnorth.com/events/b ... a8b0d-09e0

To note that Mexico defeated little Curacao 86-0 after having closed the first half on 27-0, so they scored nine tries in the last twenty minutes

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby dwpeate » Fri, 02 Aug 2019, 00:34

Unsure if it got posted anywhere so apologies for possible repeat but
Dominican Republic v British Virgin Islands September 14
Guadeloupe v Bermuda September 21st

St Lucia/St Vincent is still TBD

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Edgar » Tue, 06 Aug 2019, 11:10

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Pittsburgh? :?

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby sk 88 » Fri, 09 Aug 2019, 11:12

Jamaica 7s international Tyesse Johnson-Fisher signs for Bristol in the Premiership. TJF is from south London and tried to crack college Football for Coastal Carolina but did not play a down, or even pad up, and comes back to UK. He has talked about Engand U-20s but he played for Jamaica in Hong Kong in 2018 which was after his 18th birthday so I cannot see anyway that he is not cap tied to Jamaica.

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Canalina » Sat, 10 Aug 2019, 20:55

Cayman v Usa South live now https://livestream.com/crfutv/events/8773305

But it's not really part of RAN championship, so I suppose it's not going to attract many interest outside Cayman and Usa South-East

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Canalina » Sun, 11 Aug 2019, 00:49

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Cayman v Usa South 33-51 (to be confirmed)

Cayman Islands: 1. Michael Crothers 2. Shane Westin 3. Peter De Vere (C) 4. Dylan Bostock 5. Joseph Westin 6. Hugo Tyson 7. Cameron Bridgemann 8. Randy Henderson 9. Clive O’Mahony 10. Morgan Hayward (VC) 11. Darien Montague 12. Cameron Galloway 13. Edward Westin 14. Danny Link 15. Andy Spilsbury 16. Shane Aquart 17. Ernest Bennett 18. Duane Ebanks 19. Rupert Stanning 20. Paul Westin 21. Marcus Cubillo 22. Matthew Westin 23. Theo Edmans
Head Coach – Jovan Bowles. Assistant Coach – Ólan Daly. S&C Coach – Leo Tiernan.

USA Rugby South: Amro Gouda (USARS), Austin Grant (Atlanta Old White), Calvin Storey (Raleigh), Cameron Tompkins (Nashville), Colby Pearl (MTSU), Darrin Oliver (Boca Raton), David Caswell USARS, Ian Lehn (Atlanta Old White), Irving Carcamo (USARS), James Irey (New Orleans), John Sullivan (New Orleans), Lucas Baistrocchi (Atlanta Old White), Matt Fontana (Atlanta Renegades), Michael Martinez (Nashville), Michael Young (Atlanta Old White), Nathan Ring (Nashville), Oliver Hire (Miami Tridents), Patrick Audino (Northern Virginia), Reid Watkins (Birmingham), Richard Shore (Atlanta Old White), William Stewart (New Orleans), Yousef Ali (Atlanta Renegades), Zach Jessell (Pittsburgh Harlequins).
Head coach: Rene Daniel.

For the Cayman Islands, the match serves as a tuneup for the Americas Rugby Challenge (ARCh) that will be held from August 25-31 in Colombia. The tournaments will feature round robin play between Rugby Americas North teams Cayman Islands (50th) and Mexico (51st) and Sudamérica Rugby teams Colombia (34th) and Paraguay (44th). World Rugby Rankings are in parenthesis.

https://djcoilrugby.com/2019/08/06/usa- ... challenge/

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby victorsra » Mon, 26 Aug 2019, 17:48

As predicted before, Belize is now a Rugby Americas North member (and not Sudamérica Rugby): https://rugbyamericasnorth.com/members/
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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby antlat » Mon, 26 Aug 2019, 20:13

Where does it mention Belize is a member?

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby victorsra » Mon, 26 Aug 2019, 21:37

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Edgar » Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 21:33

Yes, Belize has been added to RAN, becoming only the fourth non-Caribbean member of the North American association after Canada, the US and Mexico. I seem to recall they advertised their test debut last year and it turned out to be a couple of under-19 7s fixtures with Guatemala, which they lost 10-19 and 12-39. Apparently they've also played a 15-a-side friendly with Guatemala which only lasted 50 minutes and failed to make it into any kind of official records. Earlier this month they staged a club 7s tournament including Mexican teams. Belize, a nation of just 360,000, becomes the 20th member of RAN. It is situated right at the base of Mexico and its southern neighbor, Guatemala, is part of the South American federation. Formerly known as British Honduras, Belize also has cultural ties with Britain, and English remains the official language (though a form of Creole is more commonly spoken). Its national team has been nicknamed the Macaws, after a local variety of parrot.

Establishing Rugby in Belize: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LnWtQOTWjA

RAN membership:

FULL MEMBERSHIP
Canada, USA, Mexico, St. Vincent & The Grenadines, Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, Bermuda, Bahamas, Guyana, Barbados, Cayman Islands, St. Lucia, British Virgin Islands

ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP
Martinique, Dominican Republic, French Guiana

REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT UNIONS
Turks and Caicos Islands, Curacao


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Meanwhile, I'd like to see Mexico given a chance to play Canada in the not too distant future. They have made great progress in a very short time, and their victory over Paraguay suggests they're just about ready for a major test match against one of their northern rivals. :thumbup:

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 28 Aug 2019, 02:31

victorsra wrote:As predicted before, Belize is now a Rugby Americas North member (and not Sudamérica Rugby): https://rugbyamericasnorth.com/members/

Anyone who ever thought Belize would join Sudamerica Rugby is smoking some expensive hash. It's very much an anglosphere country. First language is English, their money has the queen on it and you can pay with USD.

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Tobar » Wed, 28 Aug 2019, 02:44

Belize is a Caribbean country, it’s just not an island. Also to further Stro’s point, it’s in Central America and borders Mexico so no reason for it to join Sudamerica Rugby.

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby victorsra » Wed, 28 Aug 2019, 12:35

The odd thing is that in rugby (Latin) Central America is in the same confederation of South America. And the reason is Costa Rica's choice a decade ago.
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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby dwpeate » Wed, 11 Sep 2019, 17:36

The Match between St Vincent and the Grenadines and St Lucia is happening on October 26th, in SVG, the SVG union told me

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Canalina » Wed, 11 Sep 2019, 20:38

Domenican Rep. v British Virgin Is. doesn't appear on World Rugby or in the international referees list but it seems confirmed for this saturday, 15.00 local

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Canalina » Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 21:22

Bermuda v Guadeloupe next weekend. "Caribbean Cup" seems more honest than "North America Championship", considering the absence of Canada, Usa and Mexico

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Canalina » Sat, 14 Sep 2019, 06:38

The next weekend will be interesting even outside the World Cup: we will have the final of the North America Championship, the final of the Victoria Cup, the return of Mongolia and the debut of the new season of Rugby Europe Championship.
It's a bit strange that World Rugby allows all this in the starting weekend of the World Cup. In cycling, to mention an example, there's a sort of truce during the Tour de France, with no other competitions admitted.
Anyway, it's just to say; I will have no problem on following both the World Cup and the other cups...

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 14 Sep 2019, 06:44

Yeah, it's totally weird that these games are played out on the opening weekend of the RWC. It's like the local unions in Japan still running games at the same time as a Japan test...which has been a regular occurrence! These games deserve their own little spotlight.

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 14 Sep 2019, 08:25

Canalina wrote:In cycling, to mention an example, there's a sort of truce during the Tour de France, with no other competitions admitted.

Not true. You've got the Tour of Austria

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Re: North American & Caribbean Rugby (NACRA)

Postby vino_93 » Sat, 14 Sep 2019, 19:51

Armchair Fan wrote:
Canalina wrote:In cycling, to mention an example, there's a sort of truce during the Tour de France, with no other competitions admitted.

Not true. You've got the Tour of Austria

And Tour or Qinghai Lake, one of the biggest event in Asia.

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