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Re: OLD STUFF - rarities

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 12 Mar 2017, 19:29

Thes medals were given champion and 2 and 3 places of the USSR Championship rugby!

I bought recently. This medal was a former player "Locomotive" Moscow - Kuzovkin.

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Maybe someday the museum of rugby development in Russia will open.

At least that how I explain the waste of money to my wife ... :lol:
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Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Mon, 13 Mar 2017, 05:50

Started at MAI and played most of career there

Switched to Loko later - could not see with one eye

Kicked vital PG at Vake in injury time on 12 Oct 1980
which earned Railways silver (result 10-8)

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Postby Vova12 » Mon, 13 Mar 2017, 18:14

FLIDTA RISXVA wrote:Started at MAI and played most of career there

Switched to Loko later - could not see with one eye

Kicked vital PG at Vake in injury time on 12 Oct 1980
which earned Railways silver (result 10-8)

I bought medals from the dealer, probably Alexander Kuzovkin is no longer alive.

He by the way and for "Slava" played.

I could not resist as I saw imediately bought it.

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From Wales. 8-)
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Postby Vova12 » Mon, 13 Mar 2017, 18:28

By the way old boys from Lokomotiv Moscow feel great! :D

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Postby zob79 » Mon, 13 Mar 2017, 21:57

victorsra wrote:
Romania 15 - 18 France, 1957, on old 23 August Stadium

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Some sources claim 90.000 - 100.000 attendance.
http://en.espn.co.uk/statsguru/rugby/ma ... 19888.html

Scrum.com got wrong the name of the stadium.


If Romania hosts in the next few years France or any other T1 nation, could we expect what sort of crowd? Would it be possible to host it in Bucharest's main football stadium and have it pretty in the picture (more than half-full)?
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I'm sure the game would be hosted on the National Arena (pictured here); attendance - probably full house

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Postby RugInt » Mon, 13 Mar 2017, 23:57

This is of great interest to me but may also be of interest to others. The site claims it to be a unique project.

http://pzrugby.pl/page/1/ReprezentanciPolskiSeniorow,52

The project is to profile every player who has played for Poland at test level. I understand 300 of the 500 players have now a profile.

'After several years of collecting materials and images we began typing illustrated with photographs of sports biographies of all the representatives of Polish seniors who have played at least one official meeting.
See biographies [click]

Ultimately subpage "Representatives" in the side menu of the page, will include representatives of all the biographies of Polish seniors, we ask that you be patient, to the development and introduction is in fact more than three hundred of the five hundred biographies, and it will take time.

The project has no equal in the world, so far none of the world federation has not taken up this challenge.

The basis for this biographies published in 2004. Encyclopedia Polish Rugby with Supplements 2004-2006 2007-2009 Maciej Powały-Niedźwiecki and Jacek Wierzbicki (therein biographies have been updated to the present), supplies the Polish Association of Rugby and information from representatives.

In the pictures (more in gallery), the first social, but an official meeting of the Polish national seniors 24 August 1958 beat in Lodz team GDR 9: 8 (0: 8), the match was played at the stadium Włókniarz Street. Kilińskiego 188. coached team was Marian Bondarowicz, Captain Francis Smith (II while coach), and the points gained from the Poles touchdowns, Marian Głuszek scored two, and Eugene Bartkowiak one. Then touchdown was worth 3 points.
Reprezentacja Polski zagrała w składzie: 1.Władysław Moczulski, 2.Zbigniew Janus, 3.Jerzy Masoń, 4.Józef Grochowski, 5.Eugeniusz Szostak, 6.Jerzy Koter, 7.Andrzej Ważyński (Henryk Hodiak), 8.Sławomir Frankowski - 9.Józef Sokołowski - 10.Franciszek Nowak - 11.Marian Głuszek, 12.Bernard Stelmaszczyk (Eugeniusz Bartkowiak), 13.Maciej Liepelt, 14.Zdzisław Koniarz - 15.Jan Chodkiewicz. Dozwolone były tylko dwie zmiany.'

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Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 14 Mar 2017, 10:39

That really is an ambitious project. Especially as there might be some surprise "nominations".

Not 100% sure if really true or just a great story, but I was told, that the Eastern German national team once fielded their bus driver, because they were short one player :D

Makes things complicated if you want to create profiles of test players :D
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Postby Vova12 » Tue, 14 Mar 2017, 14:00

RugbyLiebe wrote:That really is an ambitious project. Especially as there might be some surprise "nominations".

Not 100% sure if really true or just a great story, but I was told, that the Eastern German national team once fielded their bus driver, because they were short one player :D

Makes things complicated if you want to create profiles of test players :D

A real case, comrade!

1981 year.Hannover. FRG - USSR 10-7!

On the border of several players it was diskovered contraband black cavar and they canceled the visas.

As a result 14 people appeared on the field, including the team doctor Babchenko and the referee Kiyanov. :lol:
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Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 14 Mar 2017, 14:21

Vova12 wrote:
RugbyLiebe wrote:That really is an ambitious project. Especially as there might be some surprise "nominations".

Not 100% sure if really true or just a great story, but I was told, that the Eastern German national team once fielded their bus driver, because they were short one player :D

Makes things complicated if you want to create profiles of test players :D

A real case, comrade!

1981 year.Hannover. FRG - USSR 10-7!

On the border of several players it was diskovered contraband black cavar and they canceled the visas.

As a result 14 people appeared on the field, including the team doctor Babchenko and the referee Kiyanov. :lol:


:D So it is not the only case, if the GDR (/East Germany)-story is also true. Hoorah for bus-drivers, team doctors and refs. The Eastern German bus driver apparently had never even seen a rugby game before and was told to just stay on the wing for the whole game.

Also I heard, that one of the players was always there with the national team, because he was extremely funny. Couldn't catch a ball because of his extremely crossed eyes. I've met him, and this part of the story is true. But I know for sure he can hold his beer :D
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Postby Canalina » Thu, 16 Mar 2017, 09:07

Syria 1942, a NZ soldier illustrates rugby to hills villagers
from the nice blog https://fenetreovale.wordpress.com

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Postby RugInt » Thu, 16 Mar 2017, 13:33

Eastern German national team once fielded their bus driver


French rugby team before WWI playing in UK (not sure if v England, Ireland, Wales or Scotland) but a player missed the boat and they dragged a Frenchman off the street or something similar-may have b a French club player supporting the team. Will have to dig out my rugby books which are still in storage. I think it is the one that traces the history of 5 Nations rugby published around 1980's.

Speaking of East German national rugby team, I have a copy of German rugby annual dated around 1996 which has a full history of rugby in East Germany plus all the national team game results. I also have the Czechoslovakia 75th Anniv publication which has a full list of all Czech games plus team list for each game. Any other known publications which have such lists, especially Tier 2? Ahh, I remember I have one for Italy dated about 1995 which has each game and team list

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Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 19:27

Got from South Africa today!

Game shirt "Krssniy Yar" and VVA fifteen years ago ...

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Its surprising that rarites Russia are better praserved abroad ... 8-)
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Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 Mar 2017, 19:37

Canalina wrote:Syria 1942, a NZ soldier illustrates rugby to hills villagers
from the nice blog https://fenetreovale.wordpress.com

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Perhaps they are occuping Russia?

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This is the only way to participate in the next World Cup ... :lol:
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Postby Canalina » Wed, 22 Mar 2017, 20:14

It's not old stuff, it's very recent stuff, but I'm anyway proud of it: I bought from a sell-for-charity-website a ball of San Donà, one of the top ten italian clubs, used during the recent match against Rovigo. In the same website you may also buy the Canna's socks or the Italia women team ball... https://www.charitystars.com/tag/rugby

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Postby Vova12 » Thu, 23 Mar 2017, 18:02

I also have something ... 8-)

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Postby Vova12 » Sun, 02 Apr 2017, 18:56

1918. Army of New Zealand against the army of France.

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Postby Vova12 » Sun, 02 Apr 2017, 19:03

The pennant of the tournament in Tbilisi in 1977.

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By the way there played english Penguins.
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Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Mon, 03 Apr 2017, 07:27

:!: TRUE

On Sat 6 Aug 1977 @ Tbilisi, Vake, Lokomotivi (Railways) stadium

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SOV 13:25 PEN

2t: Pozdnyakov Saneblidze; c p: Gonyany -
2t: Wyatt Wilkinson; c 4p: Quinn; d: Wyatt

ref Smaczny (POL) - 0:3(8) 0:9(20) 6:9(24) 9:9(30) 9:12(34) /
9:15(43) 13:15(50) 13:18(64) 13:21(70d) 13:25(80)

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Postby Vova12 » Mon, 24 Apr 2017, 15:49

Replenishment of the collection.

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Game shirt "Enisei" in 2007. 8-)
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Postby Vova12 » Mon, 24 Apr 2017, 15:53

This is VVA. I do not know the year. They have recently jerseys Adidas, before that was Gilbert.

Its Nike.

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Postby Canalina » Wed, 26 Apr 2017, 19:16

Great image published today by Brett Gosper. It's french actor JP Belmondo, if you don't known him. According to Gosper he was a back row in Racing Paris

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Postby Vova12 » Fri, 05 May 2017, 17:34

I bought a Great thing!
1962 British Lions Rugby Union Tour!
To South Africa Players Trophy Commemorative Tankard!
Awarded to Keith Alun Rowlands!
(1936-2006)
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WTRU - Western Transvaal Rugby Union.
I could not resist buying!

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Postby Canalina » Tue, 16 May 2017, 20:24

On january 2nd 1911, France defeated Scotland 16-15 in Stade Colombes, Paris. It was the first french victory against the scottish team.
A french review published a sketch with Sandy (personification of Scotland) alerting John Bull (personification of England): "watch out the french!". Or something similar https://www.flickr.com/photos/rugby_pio ... 308616552/

Sandy the scotsman resembles a lot Willie from The Simpsons : )
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Thanks to this sketch I've learned that existence of these national personifications
John Bull = Great Britain (or, in the case above, just England)
Sandy = Scotland
Paddy = Ireland
Taffy = Wales
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Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Thu, 18 May 2017, 15:19

Tbilisi - 1960th.
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Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Thu, 18 May 2017, 19:20

1964 @ VAKE ground 2
FIRST-ever crop of LOKOMOTIVI = Georgian Railways

Finished last = 5th in Tbilisi League

1 Gantiadi (old boys who finished 3rd in 1963 ALL-SOVIET Trade Union's comp)
2 Dynamo (novices as well - core from ex-Polytechnics)
3 Agrarian Institute (housed then in Vake, at the berth of Hospital #9)
4 Isani shoemaking factory (near current Shevardeni stadium)
5 Lokomotivi

http://ovaluri.comxa.com/ZANDUKI/TELI/1964.htm

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