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Re: OLD STUFF - rarities

Postby Canalina » Sat, 19 Jan 2019, 23:25

Since... the dawn of the times. I've always seen match sheets on the italian press written in that way. In soccer they're more or less the same. Final score, lines-up, scorers by minute; plus some possible other details like referee, sin-bins, spectators et cetera. Simple and efficacious.
We italians may complain ourselves about many things but -I agree- our match sheets are a bit better than the Anglo-Saxon ones : )

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Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 21 Jan 2019, 08:14

Canalina wrote:Since... the dawn of the times. I've always seen match sheets on the italian press written in that way. In soccer they're more or less the same. Final score, lines-up, scorers by minute; plus some possible other details like referee, sin-bins, spectators et cetera. Simple and efficacious.
We italians may complain ourselves about many things but -I agree- our match sheets are a bit better than the Anglo-Saxon ones : )


Just last week I looked through some German newspapers from the late 1920ies to find some rugby news (I actually found some, but yet to find more time to make something out of it) and already there the same match sheets are used for the soccer results. Maybe the Romans even used them for the gladiator results :lol:
How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Postby Canalina » Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 20:54

A general, vague doubt popped up in my time-wasting mind: why in rugby the ball is passed backwards?

I mean, how that concept came up? I can't see a strong link between the early form of rugby (the pre-Webb Ellis one, let say) and the necessity to pass back the ball. Was maybe the pass-backwards rule born after the permission of running with the ball? When you was not permitted to run with the ball (I still have not much clear how the game was at that time) there was not a clear point on prohibiting the pass onwards, it seems to me.

Maybe the whole meaning is that rugby is a sort of mimesis of a mass battle where -team versus team or village versus village- you have to go ahead centimeter by centimeter with your strength, this making the pass onwards a sort of tricky, unfair move.

I've read some web pages about, like http://www.rugbyfootballhistory.com/originsofrugby.htm, and, very quickly, the 1871 laws (http://www.rugbyfootballhistory.com/res ... 71laws.pdf), but without dissipating the doubts.

Recapitulating: if the pass backwards rule was created before the permission of running with the ball, I can't understand its meaning. And this the core of our sport

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Postby victorsra » Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 21:55

In fact in the first rules you coudn't run with the ball in most situations... The evolution of the rules is very interesting and nothing linear.

You should read Tony Collins books and listen to his podcast; https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/rugby-reloaded

The new book is terrific https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Football-B ... 113803875X

Previous books:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oval-World-Glo ... BNBC7JXJC9
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Social-History ... lish+rugby

And there is the classic Kenneth Sheard/Eric Dunning book (whose ideas Collins' diverge in some aspects): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Barbarians-Gen ... +gentlemen
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Postby Thomas » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 15:23

Has anyone come across this story?

https://bstravelguidedotcom.wordpress.c ... o-somalia/

interesting read.

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Re: OLD STUFF - rarities

Postby RugbyLiebe » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 15:35

Thomas wrote:Has anyone come across this story?

https://bstravelguidedotcom.wordpress.c ... o-somalia/

interesting read.


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How to grow rugby worldwide?
Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: OLD STUFF - rarities

Postby Thomas » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 16:05

RugbyLiebe wrote:
Thomas wrote:Has anyone come across this story?

https://bstravelguidedotcom.wordpress.c ... o-somalia/

interesting read.


BS Travel stands for?


Good Point ! :) :)

I just clicked on the link that someone send me I didn't check the website. :lol:

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Postby NedRugby » Wed, 06 Feb 2019, 16:26

LoL!


From the "About" page on the site:
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Re: OLD STUFF - rarities

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 07 Feb 2019, 13:10

Thomas wrote:
Good Point ! :) :)

I just clicked on the link that someone send me I didn't check the website. :lol:


They lost me at this
"The locals speak with a slightly different accent, they have a tradition of digging holes, rearing sheep"
:D Funny find.
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Re: OLD STUFF - rarities

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 16 Feb 2019, 18:33

I hope for future autograph and a place in future Rugby Museum in Russia.

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