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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby sk 88 » Tue, 30 Oct 2018, 20:29

True, but against that: It covers loads of teams and fills huge amount of schedule time. Trimmed down to highlights & the final its a great TV product. If £10m per year (in total) is so pie in the sky why bother with it at all?

F1 has a lot of those problems (irregular scheduling, timezones, takes up ages etc) but gets literally a billion pounds. We can't envisage getting 1% of F1's revenue?

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 30 Oct 2018, 20:52

F1 has existed for 78 years, has a clear TV window of two hours for races, takes place in 21 countries and involves a few other nationalities between drivers and teams, has many more sponsors keen on global exposure (that means advertisement for TV platforms)... We're comparing eggs to chestnuts here.

The only thing in common is how the global promoter could try to earn a big fee from hosting venues to keep the circus alive.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 03 Nov 2018, 12:43

Let's see how injuries pay their toll during the season and I still think 2020 Olympics are a pipe dream for us given the European qualifying path, but it's quite exciting to watch youngsters take over Spain 7s. Alonso earned already his place last season, Ramos and Mateu have come onboard after ditching XV and Barranco looks very promising from what I've seen in Elche.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 07 Nov 2018, 15:44

carbonero wrote:You are being overly simplistic. The sevens format is a tough sell for broadcasters. Eight hour blocks on Fridays/Saturdays/Sundays competing against the major sporting leagues in the world. Plus, the irregular schedule with different time zones. This product is condemned to Sky Sports 3 / ESPN 3. You will never get enough cash to fund each team.

Rugby sevens is perfect for a 1-hour highlights show in primetime.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby nick511 » Thu, 08 Nov 2018, 08:27

With all the 15s matches this weekend for the November internationals, it might have slipped under the radar but the Oceania 7s kicks off tommorow (friday) in Suva. Some of the squads from Aus, NZ and Fiji look fairly strong so it should be a competitive tourny.

Its good to see Niue back too competing, at the expense of American Samoa and it looks like the Cooks have a a weaker squad due to work commitments. Another interesting fact is the Tuvalu Men's 7s team is coached by a woman, and I'm not sure if any other current men's 7's teams have a female coach?

There doesn't seem to be any sign of a stream that I could find, other than updates via Twitter. Although on second look there seems to be a full replay on Fiji ONE of the action on day 1 so there must be cameras set up to film it.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Thu, 08 Nov 2018, 10:09

It's a pretty good turnout for teams, let's hope this extends to XVs later...

Missing Tahiti and American Samoa though.

Mens
Pool A: Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands
Pool B: New Zealand, New Caledonia, Nauru
Pool C: Australia, Cook Islands, Vanuatu
Pool D: Samoa, Tonga, Tuvalu, Niue

Womens
Pool A: Australia, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Nauru
Pool B: New Zealand, Fiji, Cook Islands, New Caledonia

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby sk 88 » Thu, 08 Nov 2018, 10:39

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:It's a pretty good turnout for teams, let's hope this extends to XVs later...

Missing Tahiti and American Samoa though.

Mens
Pool A: Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands
Pool B: New Zealand, New Caledonia, Nauru
Pool C: Australia, Cook Islands, Vanuatu
Pool D: Samoa, Tonga, Tuvalu, Niue

Womens
Pool A: Australia, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Nauru
Pool B: New Zealand, Fiji, Cook Islands, New Caledonia



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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Fri, 09 Nov 2018, 09:15

sk 88 wrote:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well we can always dream!

I don't know if there is a simple list of results anywhere no major upsets but I see Tuvalu beat Niue 22 - 19

It was supposed to be streamed on the Oceania Rugby Facebook page but they had some "technical difficulties"

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby nick511 » Fri, 09 Nov 2018, 09:31

I saw most of the games, most games were very one sided only a few were close like the one you mentioned, although the tourny must be getting close to the most amount of teams "nilled" or held to 0.

If anyone wants a more stable stream tommorow I suggest you go to the Australia 7s twitter and follow the link to their olympic channel which is not geoblocked.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Fri, 09 Nov 2018, 10:46

Thanks for the advice on the livestream, a pity it's a very unfriendly time for us on GMT!

Men's 1/4 final draw

Australia v Tonga
New Zealand v PNG
Samoa v Cook Islands
Fiji v New Caledonia

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sat, 10 Nov 2018, 07:58

Fiji won the Oceania 7s with a 17 - 12 defeat of NZ in the final. 3rd place was Australia v Samoa but I can't see the result.

Australia won the women's event 14 - 12 over NZ.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby nick511 » Sat, 10 Nov 2018, 08:50

Ser Podrick of Payne wrote:3rd place was Australia v Samoa but I can't see the result


Was Samoa 12- 10 Australia, Oceania rugby gave the wrong score as the same in favour of Australia. Tonga and the Cook Islands qualify for Hong Kong next year.

Was impressed with the Cooks they ran Samoa close and New Caledonia showed signs of good improvement, but they won't be involved in the Olympics anytime soon after turning down the independence referendum vote recently.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 11 Nov 2018, 10:05

Niue seems to have paid for their long absence by finishing in last place in the Oceania 7s. A long fall since the days when they were the crowd's favourite underdogs in the Commonwealth Games in Manchester many years ago.

Men's final rankings

1. Fiji
2. New Zealand
3. Samoa
4. Australia
5. Tonga
6. Cook Islands
7. Papua New Guinea
8. New Caledonia
9. Solomon Islands
10. Vanuatu
11. Tuvalu
12. Nauru
13. Niue

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby NedRugby » Sun, 11 Nov 2018, 20:04

In Niue's defence they only have a couple of hundred adult males from which to pick their squad. The entire population would make up a rather small village in most countries.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Ser Podrick of Payne » Sun, 11 Nov 2018, 21:31

Plenty of Niueans in New Zealand and Australia though. In fact 8 out the 12 in the Niue squad were from NZ/Aus (which to be fair probably didn't help preparations).

Clifford Marsh-NIUE
Morre Tukuniu- NIUE
Boston Vakaheketaha- NIUE
Ruben Siataga-NIUE
Leslie Mcllroy Taleni-NZ
Cassius Paitai-NZ
Keonte Tohilima-NZ
Willie Sionetali-NZ
Kegan Tuhega- AUS
Blake Kefu- AUS
Auston Puhotau- AUS
David Pamatatau- AUS

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 19:09

Somebody in World Rugby seems to have realised it was lunacy to keep inviting South Korea to Hong Kong 7s main pool and they've decided to call Portugal instead:
http://www.fpr.pt/news-detail/10045843/

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 09:14

Armchair Fan wrote:Somebody in World Rugby seems to have realised it was lunacy to keep inviting South Korea to Hong Kong 7s main pool and they've decided to call Portugal instead:
http://www.fpr.pt/news-detail/10045843/


Lucky them. I am kind of jealous as Germany has now lost two qualifier finals in a row (+1x semi-final before that) and still hasn't played a single match on the World Series. And now the 4th ranked Non-World-Series-team from Europe gets their shot. Apart from this jealousy, I think that Portugal is the best team not playing in the Qualifier that HK weekend and therefore the best choice.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby rey200 » Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 09:18

actually Korea wouldn't have played. It would have been the Philippines to get the spot as 3rd of the 2018 Asian 7s Series.

edit: no, that's not true either I guess, it would've been Sri Lanka. Japan is part of the World Series and therefore the Philippines should get a shot at the qualifying tournament
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