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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Thu, 13 Jun 2019, 19:01

Maybe 9 from GP? To exclude the team relegated. Maybe they planned believing someone would qualify through the SWS. And the fact the bottom team of the 2018 season (Poland) wasn't relegated maybe made 9 a better choice.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Thu, 13 Jun 2019, 20:24

victorsra wrote:Maybe 9 from GP?

Somehow I doubt. Because the Moscow GP tournament is just 1/2 or 1/3 of the whole GP series (the other one or the other two tournaments will be after the Olympic Qualifying), so it would be unfair to decide an elimination after just a part of the series. And because it would be harsh to accept one team from the Conference refusing two teams from the Grand Prix.
But I can't see other explanations. Maybe it's just a mistype from Rugby Europe, but it seems unlikely also because they wrote the same thing in different socials

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Fri, 14 Jun 2019, 03:19

Someone on facebook confirmed 9 from Moscow GP, 2 from Trophy Series, 1 (Hungary) from Conference

So Moscow will be already an hard barrage

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Fri, 14 Jun 2019, 07:42

HORROR | AMUSING READING (depends on POV)

For some reason I've missed all those developments altogether but HERE they are :!:

>> https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/rugby-europe/documentation

>> https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/sites/defaul ... _final.pdf

2019 RE STAFF 7S MANUAL MEN AND WOMEN 2019
26/04/2019 MANUALS AND KITS = PDF

CHART at p.10

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GPS contains just TWO legs and
ONLY first of them figures as OLY QUALifier

ONLY Top NINE from Moscow proceed to Colomiers Finals
+ TWO from Trophy + ONE from Conference = 12 in ALL

From Colomiers ONLY the winner goes to TOKYO 2020
and further TWO -- to Global Repechage 2020 (this is also CUT down to 12 from 16)

Dates:

22-23/06 Moscow = GPS Leg 1
13-14/07 Colomiers = no connection to GPS 2019
20-21/07 Lodz = GPS Leg 2

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 14 Jun 2019, 09:08

The 9 team part makes a lot of sense, the one tournament part not so much. But in the end I don't see that this really matters. If you don't make the top9 in the GPS in one tournament, you won't make the Repechage anyway.

Two teams from Europe for a 12-team-repechage is still a joke though. Why should the Americas have 4 teams there, when they only have a third of the depth than Europe. I mean, whoever lands in one of the two groups with one of the NA participants is already safely in the quarters.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sun, 16 Jun 2019, 09:23

Euro Quarterfinals in Zagreb

Men II level leg one (Olympic pre-qualifier)
Ukraine v Sweden 26-10
Belgium v Denmark 43-0
Lithuania v Luxembourg 33-12
Croatia v Israel on the field

Women III level (Olympic pre-qualifier)
Moldova v Lithuania 38-0
Denmark v Malta 36-0
Austria v Andorra 5-0
Croatia v Latvia on the field

Boys II level
Latvia v Croatia 21-0
Israel v Monaco 24-7
Czechia v Sweden 24-0
Ukraine v Switzerland on the field

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sun, 16 Jun 2019, 13:39

I wonder if something wrong is going in Slovenian rugby. They did good things in senior men level few years ago, but now they finished by far at the bottom place in all their Euro 7s tournaments: men's Conference (behind Liechtenstein!), women's Conference (0-45 to Slovakia in the 11th place final), boys U18 (7-40 to Turkey in the 11th place final)

Finals are

Men: Ukraine v Belgium
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... n7s-trophy

Women: Moldova v Denmark
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... conference

Boys: Latvia v Czechia
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... oys-trophy

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby PRCL » Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 05:10

Someone known rumors about a possible development of World Seven´s Series B for the next year?
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby PRCL » Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 05:10

Someone known rumors about a possible development of World Seven´s Series B for the next year?
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Blurandski » Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 19:28

PRCL wrote:Someone known rumors about a possible development of World Seven´s Series B for the next year?
cheersss


Several figures from WR have confirmed that they've been looking at a B series for a few years, haven't heard any rumours on action towards it for a bit, but it could be happening.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 19:56

I've heard that several times too.... It would be great.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 08:13

Some problems in the Euro 7s stream
https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/moscow-seven ... -prix-2019

Ireland up 12-0 versus Romania, now the stream is working

Schedule (Moscow is GMT +2)
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 08:49

Congrats to Rugby Europe for the lack of TMO in a key tournament for Olympic qualifiers. Italy was given a try against France that was the clearest of knock-ons. Even Italian player's face was screaming NO TRY. Given how pools are done it may be key to determine who access quarterfinals...

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 08:58

France-Italy 33-7 :(

Armchair Fan wrote:Congrats to Rugby Europe for the lack of TMO in a key tournament for Olympic qualifiers. Italy was given a try against France that was the clearest of knock-ons. Even Italian player's face was screaming NO TRY. Given how pools are done it may be key to determine who access quarterfinals...

Not sure about that, but I've seen just one replay. The player lost the control of the ball at the last moment but maybe his fingers were still in touch with the ball when it grounded

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Rugby7 » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 10:09

Canalina wrote:France-Italy 33-7 :(

Armchair Fan wrote:Congrats to Rugby Europe for the lack of TMO in a key tournament for Olympic qualifiers. Italy was given a try against France that was the clearest of knock-ons. Even Italian player's face was screaming NO TRY. Given how pools are done it may be key to determine who access quarterfinals...

Not sure about that, but I've seen just one replay. The player lost the control of the ball at the last moment but maybe his fingers were still in touch with the ball when it grounded
Attacking player grounded the ball in the oppositite in-Goal. That is all what the current law requires. The former formulations „ball carrier“ and „whith pressure“ are not relevant.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 12:16

No, Armchair was right, I've re-seen the match now. He clearly lost the ball before grounding

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby 4N » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 13:14

Portugal beat Wales and Spain beat England.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 13:30

Blurandski wrote:
PRCL wrote:Someone known rumors about a possible development of World Seven´s Series B for the next year?
cheersss


Several figures from WR have confirmed that they've been looking at a B series for a few years, haven't heard any rumours on action towards it for a bit, but it could be happening.

I doubted about its feasibility and now even a bit more after having seen the stands in Moscow for the Euro GP: they seem almost empty.
Maybe I'm always too pessimistic but I suspect that a B World Series would attract very tiny crowds and very few broadcasters, so it would fall almost entirely on the column of the costs. It would be an investment for the spreading of the game, sure, but I don't know if it would worth the economic effort

Moscow standing after two rounds of pool games
Romania, Poland and Georgia seem out; to escape the fourth spot in bottom semifinals there's an indirect duel between Italy (versus Romania in the last game) and Russia (versus England)

IRE 4 (+41)
FRA 4 (+40)
ITA 0 (-38)
ROM 0 (-43)

POR 4 (+32)
GER 2 (+22)
WAL 2 (+5)
POL 0 (-59)

SPA 4 (+48)
ENG 2 (+38)
RUS 2 (-30)
GEO 0 (-56)

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 14:09

RugbyLiebe wrote:The 9 team part makes a lot of sense, the one tournament part not so much. But in the end I don't see that this really matters. If you don't make the top9 in the GPS in one tournament, you won't make the Repechage anyway.

Two teams from Europe for a 12-team-repechage is still a joke though. Why should the Americas have 4 teams there, when they only have a third of the depth than Europe. I mean, whoever lands in one of the two groups with one of the NA participants is already safely in the quarters.

Because the Americas are two unions, independent and with the same status of Rugby Europe. What happens in the RWC is the nonsense.

However, to be fair, with ARC going on they should merge both and then you would be right (just to note, for South America it would mean the same as Uruguay, Chile, Brazi, Colombia are better than Mexico or the Caribbeans). But they won't do that obviously because they would lose 2 votes in the WR Council.

I would say the fair thing would be to give all SWS core teams left a spot + 1 spot for each continent + a X number of teams from Hong Kong 7s (or the future 2nd division) to complete 12 teams in the Final Qualy.

This would mean after the 11 spots (hosts + Top 4 SWS + 6 continental winners) there would be 2 or 3 SWC core teams left. With more 6 teams from continental tournaments, 8 or 9. This means 3 or 4 from a world 2nd division. Much fairer.

Congrats to Rugby Europe for the lack of TMO in a key tournament for Olympic qualifiers. Italy was given a try against France that was the clearest of knock-ons. Even Italian player's face was screaming NO TRY. Given how pools are done it may be key to determine who access quarterfinals...

Moscow tournament is not a Olympic Qualy, right?
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 14:48

But it determines 9 teams qualified for the qualy and seedings.

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby victorsra » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 15:05

right, so 9 from Moscow, 2 from the Trophy and 1 from the Conference indeed
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby rey200 » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 15:28

Spain didn't only beat England, they were the better and smarter teams as well
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby Canalina » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 15:36

I'm just following the results and not the videos; what happened to Russia? They hardly defeated Georgia and then lost heavily with Spain and England, despite the presence of Serevi as coach (how many teams coached Serevi in his career?)
All the four eastern nations -Russia, Romania, Georgia, Poland- are in the bottom semifinals

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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby rey200 » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 15:41

it's the famous Russian off-season. Sorry to be sarcastic but that was a non-performance by the home team.
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Re: Sevens World Series/7's News

Postby FLIDTA RISXVA » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 15:54

PENDING CONFIRMATION

POF system is a MIXED one = similar to RIO 2016
ie A1-C2 and #7-12


CUP QF * Secured EURO QUAL ticket

FRA (A1) – ITA (#8) | WAL (B2) – ENG (C2)
POR (B1) – GER (#7) | SPN (C1) – IRE (A2)

TROPHY SF * Winners of both SF also go to EURO QUAL
as WAL does NOT count

RUS (#9) - POL (#12) | ROM (#10) - GEO (#11)

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what happened to Russia?

SEREVI PLAGUE

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