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RWC 2019 Qualifying

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Neptune » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 15:22

Gorbeh wrote:For those interested, here is the German "squad", which will meet and prepare themselves this weekend and from which the final squad will be decided:

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Julius Nostadt (Aurillac, France), Jörn Schröder, Samy Füchsel, Jaco Otto, Timo Vollenkemper, Sebastian Ferreira, Ayron Schramm, Jarrid Els, Luis Ball (all Heidelberger RK), Antony Dicksinson (RG Heidelberg), Marcel Becker (SC Frankfurt 1880), Paul Weiß (SC Neuenheim), Mark Fairhurst, Marcel Henn (both SU Neckarsulm), Marcus Bender (TSV Handschuhsheim), Eric Marks (La Rochelle, France)

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Jan Piosik (Hannover 78), Sean Armstriong, Pierre Mathurin, Hagen Schulte, Raynor Parkinson, Steffen Liebig, Marcel Coetzee (all Heidelberger RK), Floran Wehrspann, Manuel Müller, Marvin Dieckmann (all RG Heidelberg), Zinzan Hees (RK Heusenstamm), Luis Lemperle (SC Frankfurt 1880), Nikolai Klewinghaus (SC Neuenheim), Oliver Paine, Carlos Soteras-Merz (both TV Pforzheim), Tim Menzel, Chris Hilsenbeck (RC Vannes, France)

On Call: Winston Cameron-Dow, Lukas Deichmann (Sc Frankfurt 1880), Felix Martel, Paul Schüle (TSV Handschuhsheim), Fabian Heimpel (RG Heidelberg), Sam Harris (TV Pforzheim).

Wow, looks like a full strength squad, I can all remember what Chris Hilsenbeck and Raynor Parkinson did to us in Nairobi.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Gen Santa » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 15:36

perhaps they can give samoa a good scare too

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Sick » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 15:54

Gen Santa wrote:perhaps they can give samoa a good scare too



...really? Think chances are veeeeeeeery, very slim of them being competitive.
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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby qwerty » Thu, 07 Jun 2018, 17:33

Yeah, playing at home against the Eagles they lost 46-17, not exactly close.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby ARHS » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 05:58

Gee, how fair is this? Germany drops around 26 of the players who played in the qualifying tournament this season and replaces them with 20 new players, including a whole lot of imports. Should be too strong for Portugal and might challenge a Samoan squad that needs to drawn from all over the world to play in both Germany and Samoa. (none of the squad play at home currently). It is all by the rules of course

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby suofficer » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 06:43

Don't write off Portugal yet.

I've seen some of the training footage and the squad that they've assembled. They'll be up for it and they'll believe they can win. Im very very annoyed Im not going to go to this.

Beating Romania should be targeted so that we get a better level of rugby in preparation for 2023. Think Portugal may well be chucking some of the guys who put their bodies on the line over the last few years in favor of a few more well known names.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby RugbyLiebe » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 06:46

ARHS wrote:Gee, how fair is this? Germany drops around 26 of the players who played in the qualifying tournament this season and replaces them with 20 new players, including a whole lot of imports. Should be too strong for Portugal and might challenge a Samoan squad that needs to drawn from all over the world to play in both Germany and Samoa. (none of the squad play at home currently). It is all by the rules of course


You know, there was a civil war going on in German rugby with many players not released by their employer. This war has now ended, so they can play again.

There is not a single player in the squad who hasn't played for the German national team before (not sure about one or two, but they would be Germans, raised in Germany rugby-wise), all of them have actually already played in this World Cup qualifying campaign (but in 2017). All of the foreign (French) based players are actually Germans who started to play rugby as kids in Germany and moved to France when they realized they could become paid for doing what they love.

And if we talk about Samoa I would be extremely quiet, as that's the nation in the world with the most imports from another country (13 players RWC 2015, source: http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/ ). Without the excellent system in New Zealand feeding Samoa with the kids and grandkids of Samoan expats, they would have a massive problem.

Samoa shouldn't be in there anyway, as Georgia's direct qualification lead to one place taken away from Europe. Because Europe1+2 qualified directly for RWC2015.

So much said, those players played last against the USA for Germany, so if we beat Portugal, a win against Samoa is still a really unlikely scenario.
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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby thatrugbyguy » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 06:49

Imagine if Portugal did qualify over Samoa. That would make them the first nation to qualify playing in the 3rd division of Europe.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Bogdan_DC » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 07:07

I put my money on Portugal vs Germany.
Vs Oaks it depends a lot in what team Romania will be able to field. It is always hard to play Portugal, i remember them beat us at home with some great players like Petre Mitu or Manta in the team.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Raven » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 10:26

Bogdan_DC wrote:I put my money on Portugal vs Germany.
Vs Oaks it depends a lot in what team Romania will be able to field. It is always hard to play Portugal, i remember them beat us at home with some great players like Petre Mitu or Manta in the team.


Really, completely ignorant question, but you think there´s even a slight chance that Portugal can beat Romania?

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby suofficer » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 10:29

Yes, if we can pick our 1st XV then yes. We have as good a prospect as ever.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby amz » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 10:31

Raven wrote:Really, completely ignorant question, but you think there´s even a slight chance that Portugal can beat Romania?


No.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Bogdan_DC » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 10:41

amz wrote:
Raven wrote:Really, completely ignorant question, but you think there´s even a slight chance that Portugal can beat Romania?


No.


YES, it is.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Tomster7uk » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 17:06

Who do you want to win the single match play off between Germany and Portugal that is due to play on the 16th. (A week on Saturday).

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby dwpeate » Fri, 08 Jun 2018, 18:01

Germany - if only because they've never got further than regionals

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby thatrugbyguy » Sat, 09 Jun 2018, 03:57

Honestly, if either Germany or Portugal are going to produce a miracle in the coming weeks they've got no better opportunity than now. Both Samoa and Fiji are playing awfully at the moment watching their PNC match.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Tomster7uk » Sat, 09 Jun 2018, 13:58

I've not watched any of the Pacific Nations Cup. Would Portugal or Germany be watching by rubbing their hands with confidence?

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby RugbyLiebe » Sat, 09 Jun 2018, 18:31

Tomster7uk wrote:I've not watched any of the Pacific Nations Cup. Would Portugal or Germany be watching by rubbing their hands with confidence?


No way. If anyone of those two beats Samoa in a home-and-away-playoff that would be one of the biggest rugby upsets ever.
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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby qwerty » Sat, 09 Jun 2018, 20:40

Yeah, absolutely no way. If Germany had played the REC under normal circumstances maybe they'd have had more time to prepare, and to experiment and cement the group, but this is too improvised, maybe for the repechage against Canada, but not this.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Blurandski » Sat, 09 Jun 2018, 20:41

qwerty wrote:Yeah, absolutely no way. If Germany had played the REC under normal circumstances maybe they'd have had more time to prepare, and to experiment and cement the group, but this is too improvised, maybe for the repechage against Canada, but not this.


I mean most of the team have been playing together week in, week out...

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby rey200 » Sat, 09 Jun 2018, 21:12

but in what competitions? on which level? Sorry, but if they pull a suprise that will be the biggest upset ever. First Portugal though, that ain't a bye either

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby qwerty » Sat, 09 Jun 2018, 21:26

Exactly, it's not the same.

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Tue, 26 Jun 2018, 05:29

Samoa-Germany and Cook-Hong Kong will both begin at 15.00 local of saturday, but with a 23 hours gap one by the other because of the change date line; the Apia game is friday night (here in Europe), the Rarotonga game saturday night (here in Europe)

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Canalina » Tue, 26 Jun 2018, 06:22

I like a lot this week's program, four matches and all of them interesting

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Re: RWC 2019 Qualifying

Postby Tomster7uk » Tue, 26 Jun 2018, 15:38

Canada boss hopes to help Canada to reach world cup finals.

The repechage is in November...

Jones' side will now face three other nations in November in the repechage to claim the 20th and final place.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44603284

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