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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby Thomas » Mon, 05 Nov 2018, 09:43

Bring back fakaosilea all is forgiven :D :D :D

On a serious note can he still qualify through the Olympic route if picked?

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby amz » Mon, 05 Nov 2018, 09:45

Yes, he can still qualify trough Olympic route and he have hopes for this.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby Bogdan_DC » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 07:34

amz wrote:Oaks / Stejarii for Portugal match:

Props:
Alexandru Țăruș (Sale Sharks)
Alexandru Gordaș (CSM Bucuresti)
Constantin Pristaviță (CSM Stiinta Baia Mare)
Ionel Badiu (Romains)
Alexandru Savin (CSM Bucuresti)

Hookers:
Eugen Căpățână (Timisoara Saracens)
Andrei Rădoi (Timisoara Saracens)
Florin Bărdașu (CSM Bucuresti)

Lock:
Marius Antonescu (Colomiers)
Johan Van Heerden (Perpignan)
Adrian Moțoc (Agen)
Marian Drenceanu (Timisoara Saracens)
Marius Iftimiciuc (Timisoara Saracens)

Backrow:
Mihai Macovei (Colomiers)
Andre GORIN/Andrei Gorcioaia (RC Massy)
Damian Strătilă (CSA Steaua)
Valentin Ursache (Oyonnax)
Cristi Chirica (CSM Stiinta Baia Mare)
Adrian Ion (CSM Bucuresti)

Halfbacks
Florin Surugiu (CSA Steaua)
Tudorel Bratu (CSM Bucuresti)
Valentin Calafeteanu (CSM Bucuresti)

Fly-halves:
Daniel Plai (CSA Steaua)
Tudor Boldor (CSA Steaua)

Wings:
Ionuț Dumitru (CSA Steaua)
Robert Neagu (CSA Steaua)
Vladut Zaharia (Timisoara Saracens)

Centers:
Fonovai Tangimana (CSM Bucuresti)
Florin Vlaicu (CSM Bucuresti)
Vlăduț Popa (Timisoara Saracens)
Alexandru Bucur (CSM Stiinta Baia Mare)

Fullbacks:
Cătălin Fercu (Timisoara Saracens)
Paul Popoaia (CSS 2 Baia Mare)
Ionel Melinte (CSA Steaua)

Head coach: Thomas Lievremont
Assistants: De Villiers (backs), Dumbrava (skills)

Very strong squad, probably the strongest available with only two usual call ups missing, Andrei Ursache (prop, Carcassone) and Simionescu (fullback, Timisoara). Popoaia who still plays for a junior club is a strange call up but probably De Villiers knows him from Romania U20 and called him as an apprentice. Vulturar (CSS 2 Baia Mare) could have been called as well


Also Lucaci and Lazar are missing. Well it looks like no more strangers for Romania, only Van Heerden and Fonovai.We have a "nationalist" selector from France :)). I am all for this but we are very thin on few positions.
Normally we should beat Portugal without problems. But we said that before...:).
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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby welshdragon2000 » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 09:37

Romania to win by 20

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby Seaton » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 20:35

Long shot, but would there be any club games played around Constanta on the weekend of the 22nd December?

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby amz » Tue, 06 Nov 2018, 20:46

Seaton wrote:Long shot, but would there be any club games played around Constanta on the weekend of the 22nd December?


Unfortunately for you no, at that time of the year rugby season is off until February.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby amz » Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 14:06

Tissot became the official partner of the Romanian Rugby Federation and launched the official Stejarii watch, a limited edition 500 chronographs


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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby Victor » Sat, 17 Nov 2018, 08:21

375 EUR. 50 more than the NBA edition of the same watch.
I am curious how much Tissot has contributed to FRR budget.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 07:17

Interesting proposal, i'm sure that will never happen and FRR&FRM are the last interested in this but at least it's sound nice :)

http://club16.ro/eseuri/rugbyul-care-ne ... rEuCaV-Urg

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 11:06

Forgive my ignorance, what would be the benefit of a united Romanian/Moldavian team?

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby amz » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 11:16

few decent players.

some background here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova%E ... _relations

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 11:20

thatrugbyguy wrote:Forgive my ignorance, what would be the benefit of a united Romanian/Moldavian team?

-The PR effect for " Union" in both countries.
-Salvation for Moldavian rugby who is dead and a breath of fresh air for Romanian who is almost dead.
- few forwards for Romania from Moldova, most of them very good but old

In few words it will not bring a lot material wise but more in terms of morale/soul.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby SHIZZZO » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 12:19

What happened to Romania? I read above that this is the strongest team available, so what went wrong? Not want to sound like an arrogant prick, but is this somehow connected to the weak showing of the youth system, that was discussed couple years ago here quite extensively?
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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 12:47

SHIZZZO wrote:What happened to Romania? I read above that this is the strongest team available, so what went wrong? Not want to sound like an arrogant prick, but is this somehow connected to the weak showing of the youth system, that was discussed couple years ago here quite extensively?

Is not the strongest. We can add players from France Antonescu, Nistor, Giorcioaia (maybe A. Ursache 1 -2 years) & from England Tarus + few others injured or not selected from Super Liga&France + few more by naturalization process (altough this path it looks abandoned).
Of course is connected with youth system but also with losing a World cup qualification like idiots. Even All Blacks will be in shock after an enormous failure like that. Anyhow i expect Romania to be a mid table team in REC for at least next 1-2 years. Minimum.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 12:58

Bogdan_DC wrote:Interesting proposal, i'm sure that will never happen and FRR&FRM are the last interested in this but at least it's sound nice :)

http://club16.ro/eseuri/rugbyul-care-ne ... rEuCaV-Urg


But would WR accept? They dissolved the Arabian Gulf as rugby is an Oympic sport.
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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby amz » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 13:24

It was a very green team in fact as very few of the U23 players who played until now were on the field, for example Simionescu, Iurea, Cojocaru, Muresan missed this match.

Except Macovei, Badiu, Capatana, Pristavita, Surugiu and Vlaicu on bench, the team was inexperienced with many being debuts this November or with only 2-3 caps. So not, not even all the best youngsters were in the team.

@Bogdan, I'm pretty sure it won't be an issue with naturalized players. Lievremont simply wanted to see as many as possible.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:04

amz wrote:So not, not even all the best youngsters were in the team.

Why was that an issue? Romania is out of RWC 2019 so you need to prepare for 2023 RWC. everyone who is under 27 must gain some experience and prepare for upcoming years.

If you guys want to bring some more foreigners its yoir choice but i think it is time to raise better generation until 2023 or Romania will regress pretty fast.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby amz » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:10

I didn't said it is an issue, I agree with this policy so far, we have to be prepared for 2020 and it's normal to fill in youngsters to see who is capable to make it to the main squad. In fact I criticized Haig that he started very late to use young player (Mathiashvili at 24??) so I agree with what Lievremont is doing.

I was merely pointing that it was not "strongest team available" and not even the best young players were part of it, that's all. Despite the results, I've see some positive stuff in both matches.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby 4N » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:13


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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby dans » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:14

Let’s hope that Lievremont selection algorithm for REC next spring will take into account some of the variables below:

1. results... we cannot experiment forever, find a core)
2. selecting the inform native players
3. continue to select eligible naturalised players (in some kind of ratio that keeps everybody happy)
4. keep a Romania A team to check progress, base strength and playing philosophy
5. give young prospects a playing chance and specific career guidance
6. long term view of 2023...meaning the actual U18 to U22 generation not captured in the top national teams get a competitive chance

…pretty complex equation , I say...not easy task!

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby Bogdan_DC » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:15

4N wrote:Possible Lievremont resignation?!

https://mobile.twitter.com/MisterXVBlog ... 6988200961

Yes i heard that also..this will be unbelievable. I really hope is not true.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby amz » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:24

dans wrote: 4. keep a Romania A team to check progress, base strength and playing philosophy


imo this was the main issue after Bucharest Wolves was disbanded. This team gave 6 strong games during winter break to best local players, keeping them in shape for REC.

About Lievremont, I heard same rumor but nothing official. I'd be very sad to find out this is true.

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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:55

What about outside the field in your opinion?

Is FRR marketing/communication work good in your opinion? How to make rugby a stronger TV-internet product?

How is rugby's image in Romania? Can it improve/change in a better way?
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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby amz » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 15:03

victorsra wrote:What about outside the field in your opinion?

Is FRR marketing/communication work good in your opinion? How to make rugby a stronger TV-internet product?

How is rugby's image in Romania? Can it improve/change in a better way?


Since 2017 is catastrophic. Except that FRR obtained some good investments from Government (main stadium is rebuilt, a regional center in Baia Mare), in marketing part nothing was done. Of course it can be improved.
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Re: Romanian Rugby

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 15:05

Marketing is lacking even in tier one nations.

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