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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Working Class Rugger » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 03:59

How many players do Uruguay have as part of their HP program? Surely around 30 odd. Wouldn't they just slip right in and occupy at least 30 of the spots? Because 20 does seem too few to make two teams viable.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby victorsra » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 11:44

carbonero wrote:I’m just saying that the cost/benefit is out of whack. Creating two franchises is a substantial financial risk for the development of merely 20 players.

Yes I agree. There is no sense in creating pro rugby if it is not to give national team players a pro calendar.
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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Blurandski » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 14:07

Fiji v Uruguay was the third match to sell out on general sales, should be a great game, and it's nice to see some lower profile matches shifting decent amounts of tickets.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 14:11

Blurandski wrote:Fiji v Uruguay was the third match to sell out on general sales, should be a great game, and it's nice to see some lower profile matches shifting decent amounts of tickets.


Is the number of seats on wikipedia with 16,187 accurate? Isn't this the very cool looking stadium directly to the sea?
Great news.
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Look at the world ranking in July. Teams ranked 1-10 have to play one team from 11-20 (they don't play in a regular competition) away the next year. 11-20 play 21-30 away and so on. Yes, it really is that simple.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Blurandski » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 16:28

RugbyLiebe wrote:
Blurandski wrote:Fiji v Uruguay was the third match to sell out on general sales, should be a great game, and it's nice to see some lower profile matches shifting decent amounts of tickets.


Is the number of seats on wikipedia with 16,187 accurate? Isn't this the very cool looking stadium directly to the sea?
Great news.


Yep, I believe so. Namibia v Kenya int he same stadium is also gone. They're two of the matches that I was most worried about.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Armchair Fan » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 16:33

Canada, not Kenya :p

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 18:49

victorsra wrote:Not that true. Brazil has just visited in november Tucumán and Salta, that are 2 of the best 6 provinces: Brazil 29 - 30 Salta and Brazil 31-34 Tucumán.

And Uruguay has always played in tough matches against those 6 strongest provinces.

I don't think Brazil and Uruguay will want much more than a 1/3 of foreign players (unless we make them Tupis's players...) since both have serious ambitions in 15s. Chile too, as they'll have only 1 franchise. Only Paraguay will probably have a heavy amount of Argentines now.


Exactly, they beat Brazil. It was close and these were the best 2 teams but the provincial teams still ended up winning and it’s likely the remaining ones would at least put up a good fight.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 18:50

victorsra wrote:
carbonero wrote:I’m just saying that the cost/benefit is out of whack. Creating two franchises is a substantial financial risk for the development of merely 20 players.

Yes I agree. There is no sense in creating pro rugby if it is not to give national team players a pro calendar.


Also agreed with this. No reason to have 2 franchises for Uruguay just yet. Keep it simple and build up to a second team - the threshold is much lower than it would be for a 2nd Super Rugby team in Argentina.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby 4N » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 19:03

Weren’t they trying to build off of the Penarol-Nacional rivalry?

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby victorsra » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 22:47

Agreed!
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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Wed, 16 Jan 2019, 03:11

4N wrote:Weren’t they trying to build off of the Penarol-Nacional rivalry?


I think the teams are going to be affiliated with them, not sure if that’s why they wanted 2 teams.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 19 Jan 2019, 15:24

Sebastián Piñeyrúa says that it's a marketing decision. Having two historic teams will help to give awareness to the league.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby 4N » Sat, 19 Jan 2019, 15:29

NaBUru38 wrote:Sebastián Piñeyrúa says that it's a marketing decision. Having two historic teams will help to give awareness to the league.


It’s a very wise decision indeed.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Sat, 19 Jan 2019, 17:37

NaBUru38 wrote:Sebastián Piñeyrúa says that it's a marketing decision. Having two historic teams will help to give awareness to the league.


Since you love not posting the article for some reason :lol:

https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/pi ... 9118221218

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 02:25

Reading through this article more thoroughly now - Pineyrua says that Uruguay has 20-25 players that can compete at this level. There's also a section (which I would copy but the article doesn't allow it for whatever reason) where he addresses having 2 teams despite not having enough Uruguayans to fill the teams. For starters, there are 20-25 players ready now but they wouldn't join without a future projection of players. Playing among other quality players from rugby playing nations like Fiji, Samoa, Argentina, etc. would help the Uruguayan players - an argument I've had for MLR as well.

As for having 2 franchises, he says that it's a better business model and wants to build off the Penarol-Nacional rivalry.

It's written pretty succinctly in the article itself but like I said, I can't copy it.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby qwerty » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 02:45

He says that having 2 franchises for just 20-25 players wouldn't make sense if that were a static number, and that their goal is to gradually increase it.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Working Class Rugger » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 10:00

Tobar wrote:Reading through this article more thoroughly now - Pineyrua says that Uruguay has 20-25 players that can compete at this level. There's also a section (which I would copy but the article doesn't allow it for whatever reason) where he addresses having 2 teams despite not having enough Uruguayans to fill the teams. For starters, there are 20-25 players ready now but they wouldn't join without a future projection of players. Playing among other quality players from rugby playing nations like Fiji, Samoa, Argentina, etc. would help the Uruguayan players - an argument I've had for MLR as well.

As for having 2 franchises, he says that it's a better business model and wants to build off the Penarol-Nacional rivalry.

It's written pretty succinctly in the article itself but like I said, I can't copy it.


That's unacceptable. I demand you transcribe it in English for my, I mean our, convenience.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby getienne » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 13:40

Americas Rugby News site announces "Jaguares prepares for Thursday’s (24/01/2019) friendly against Uruguay
Kickoff is set for 8pm local time (6pm Eastern) at the newly-renovated Estadio Charrúa in Montevideo."
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2019/0 ... y-warm-up/

Is it an official test match (ie awards caps), or just a training/friendly match ?
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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Raven » Mon, 21 Jan 2019, 15:28

I don´t think Uruguay can award Caps for a friendly with a franchise...

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 21 Jan 2019, 20:28

I can't go on a Thursday night.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby ficcp » Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 02:49

FT : jaguares defeated Uruguay 61-0. They scored 9 tries, Quesada used 35 players.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 20:56

That was pointless. Next year they should play Buenos Aires vs interior.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby la vaca » Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 18:24

ficcp wrote:FT : jaguares defeated Uruguay 61-0. They scored 9 tries, Quesada used 35 players.

Is it possible to watch the game?

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby thatrugbyguy » Mon, 28 Jan 2019, 10:05

There were some highlight on reddit I think.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 16 Feb 2019, 22:13

Today, the Club Universitario de Buenos Aires (CUBA) visited Montevideo with four teams:

Pre B CUBA vs Lobos de Punta del Este
Pre A CUBA vs Inter Old Boys
Teritos vs Inter CUBA
Primera CUBA vs Primera Old Boys

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