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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby NaBUru38 » Tue, 11 Dec 2018, 13:36

Seven de la República results:

Tucumán 26 - 0 Uruguay
Uruguay 22 - 14 Cuyo
Uruguay 24 - 14 Salta

Gold QF: Rosario 22 - 14 Uruguay
Plate Semis: Buenos Aires 28 - 5 Uruguay

Final standings: 7th

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby qwerty » Fri, 14 Dec 2018, 19:52

Uruguay looking to play Jaguares in January

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Fri, 14 Dec 2018, 20:23

Is this the first time they've played each other? They should consider playing more matches against each other as a preseason friendly - great local warm up for Jaguares (who will likely be experimenting a bit with lineups this season) and great test for Uruguay. Plus it hopefully builds some support for Jaguares in Uruguay as a marketing scheme.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby carbonero » Fri, 14 Dec 2018, 20:44

They had a scrimmage in 2017. Jaguares won 61-07

Will MLR release the players for this fixture? If Uruguay lines up second stringers, it could get really ugly.
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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Fri, 14 Dec 2018, 21:38

No chance, that's opening weekend.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby NaBUru38 » Tue, 18 Dec 2018, 18:15

Do you mean that our best players won't to the Americas Rugby Championship?

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Tue, 18 Dec 2018, 18:43

It's possible that's the case but not confirmed if they will be released for any of the games. We're still not really sure how that's going to work out for the US players.

Regardless, that is definitely worth it for you guys. The better players get to play MLR for the season and the fringe players get more starting time in the ARC as prep for the RWC.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby RugbyPUBtbilisi » Tue, 18 Dec 2018, 20:41

Uruguay looked dangerous during November Tests... Progress is certain. Good job

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 14:45

On the contrary, i'd think that it would be better for all teams in the Americas Rugby Championship to play with their best teams.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 18:20

Better for all teams, sure, but since this is only for 1 year I can't view it as much of a negative.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 22:28

All of the Uruguayan players will be released for the ARC. The Winter Championship is in a regulation 9 window. Although the players will be in camp for Uruguay, I doubt they will be released to play in that fixture. World Rugby would not be happy in a World Cup year that a league did not release players during a Reg 9 window.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby victorsra » Fri, 21 Dec 2018, 14:33

With Teros-Jaguares match on Jan 24th this simply means the Uruguayans will only go to USA after the ARC I believe.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby carbonero » Mon, 14 Jan 2019, 18:54

victorsra wrote:With Teros-Jaguares match on Jan 24th this simply means the Uruguayans will only go to USA after the ARC I believe.

Arata, Vilaseca, Dotti and Echeverría are out of this fixture. Magno, Nieto, Sanguinetti, Mieres, Leivas and Silva are still in Uruguay waiting for their visas but most likely won’t feature as well > https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/im ... 9114134842

This fixture is senseless for both parties. They should have sent Jaguares to Brazil.

In other news, Ignacio Chans said that Uruguay won’t have more than 20 professionals between their two LAR franchises > https://twitter.com/ignaciochans/status ... 8479250435

Do they need two teams? Why are they paying to develop foreigners?

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 14 Jan 2019, 20:07

Would URU pay for foreigners or would they be subsidised by World Rugby given their probable origin?

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby carbonero » Mon, 14 Jan 2019, 21:02

I don’t think that WR will subsidize salaries. And even if they do, why would the URU use those slots on Argentines/Islanders?

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Armchair Fan » Mon, 14 Jan 2019, 21:14

Because without World Rugby's guiding probably the league wouldn't go anywhere. Or at least not as ambitious as it's going to be. Anyway I admit I didn't expect this from Uruguay and I thought this way was going to be used only in Paraguay, Chile and Brazil.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby carbonero » Mon, 14 Jan 2019, 22:00

Armchair Fan wrote:Because without World Rugby's guiding probably the league wouldn't go anywhere.
Yeah but why would WR want 20 foreigners in each Uruguayan franchise?

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Mon, 14 Jan 2019, 22:58

Because World Rugby’s role is developing all rugby, not just Uruguay. Foreigners could include Argentinians, Islanders, Paraguayans (unless they have their own team) or Colombians.

It’s likely that URU is only able to pay for the 20 players which makes you question why even have 2 franchises (unless they are similar positions and will all get to start). I don’t think WR is technically paying any salaries as the money would come in part from HP grants.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby carbonero » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 01:04

Tobar wrote:Because World Rugby’s role is developing all rugby, not just Uruguay. Foreigners could include Argentinians, Islanders, Paraguayans (unless they have their own team) or Colombians.

Helping Colombians get into the league is one thing; signing 30 Argentine journeymen is another.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby Tobar » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 02:10

Well part of the reason for the league is to increase the overall quality of Argentinian players as well and put them in a professional environment. There would be a greater net value but adding the Colombians over Argentinians but that doesn't mean it won't still improve something.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby 4N » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 02:28

I just assumed most of the teams would be 50%+ Argentine. Their provincial sides can still beat everyone in South America. With a few SA and PI guys in the mix.

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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby victorsra » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 02:39

Not that true. Brazil has just visited in november Tucumán and Salta, that are 2 of the best 6 provinces: Brazil 29 - 30 Salta and Brazil 31-34 Tucumán.

And Uruguay has always played in tough matches against those 6 strongest provinces.

I don't think Brazil and Uruguay will want much more than a 1/3 of foreign players (unless we make them Tupis's players...) since both have serious ambitions in 15s. Chile too, as they'll have only 1 franchise. Only Paraguay will probably have a heavy amount of Argentines now.
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Re: Rugby in Uruguay

Postby carbonero » Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 02:58

I’m just saying that the cost/benefit is out of whack. Creating two franchises is a substantial financial risk for the development of merely 20 players.

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