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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 24 Aug 2019, 19:37

Yes, they qualify to Nacional, but I don't understand if they qualify to 2020 Interior A.

I read somewheere the 4 bottom teams of 2019 Interior A will play the bests of Interior B for the last 4 spots in Interior A 2020. This means the regional leagues from 2020 will only qualify to Interior B, as Interior A participants will be determined by last years' results. Is that right?
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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 24 Aug 2019, 19:41

I don't recall having read that.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby carbonero » Sat, 24 Aug 2019, 20:01

Interior qualification is through regional tournaments.

The last four clubs of the “A” play to keep that spot within their region. If Trebol goes down, Uruguay loses their spot in the “A”.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 04 Sep 2019, 15:50

2019 Torneo del Interior A - standings after round 4:

Group 1

1. Tucumán, 14 pts
2. Gimnasia y Esgrima Rosario, 12
3. Jockey Club Córdoba, 10
4. Old Resian, 0

Group 2

1. Duendes, 16
2. Córdoba Athletic, 10
3. Los Tarcos, 6
4. Universitario Tucumán, 5

Group 3

1. Natación y Gimnasia, 18 pts
2. Marista, 14
3. Jockey Club Rosario, 7
4. Sociedad Sportiva, 0

Group 4

1. Urú Curé, 16
2. Tucumán Lawn Tennis, 10
3. Mar del Plata, 10
4. Trébol Paysandú, 1

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 04 Sep 2019, 15:53

2019 Torneo del Interior B - standings after round 4:

Group 1

1. Santa Fe Rugby, 15
2. Old Christians, 13
3. Liceo Mendoza, 12
4. Jabalíes, 0

Group 2

1. Palermo Bajo, 15
2. Los Tordos, 14
3. Comercial, 10
4. Aguará, 0

Group 3

1. La Tablada, 18
2. CRAI, 14
3. Huirapuca, 6
4. Montevideo Cricket, 0

Group 4

1. CURNE, 18
2. San Ignacio, 10
3. Old Lions, 9
4. Roca, 1

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 17:38

2019 Torneo URBA Top 12 - regular season final results

1. SIC
2. Belgrano Athletic
3. Hindú
4. Pucara
5. Newman
6. Alumni
7. San Luis
8. Regatas Bella Vista
9. CASI
10. CUBA
11. La Plata
12. Atlético del Rosario

SIC and Pucara will play on Saturday 28

Belgrano Athletic and Hindú will play on Sunday 29.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Tue, 19 Nov 2019, 16:29

Sevens schedule:

November 23-24: Seven URBA
Nov 30 - Dec 1: Seven de la República Femenino (women's province teams)
December 7-8: Seven de la República Masculino (men's province teams)

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 02 Jan 2020, 22:41

I saw the news about San Lorenzo buiding their new stadium. It seems they don't have a plan at the moment for Nuevo Gasometro. Would it be interesting for UAR/Jaguares to bid to buy Nuevo Gasometro and make it rugby's national stadium? I know it is a very poor area and far from rugby's traditional areas, but it is a proper stadium inside Capital Federal and close to big avenues. Of course it would cost too much to buy, but maybe... ?

It looks like this idea was around in 2011 https://tn.com.ar/tnylagente/deportes/l ... tro_361657
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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby carbonero » Thu, 02 Jan 2020, 22:59

No chance. The stadium is surrounded by slums. It is a pain in the ass to go at night. Also, the UAR just signed a 6 year deal with Velez.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 03 Jan 2020, 01:51

Yeah, I thought that would be the problem...
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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby Working Class Rugger » Fri, 03 Jan 2020, 02:24

carbonero wrote:No chance. The stadium is surrounded by slums. It is a pain in the ass to go at night. Also, the UAR just signed a 6 year deal with Velez.

And stadiums aren't a terribly good investment in the long run. Better lease the facility and save the money.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby Salta » Fri, 03 Jan 2020, 13:45

Every year Los Pumas play five of six test outside Capital Federal, an rugby's national stadium has no sense in Argentina.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 04 Jan 2020, 03:38

Of course it does. it is not about only the Pumas, they can keep playing many matches outside Buenos Aires no matter if UAR has a stadium. it is mostly about the Jaguares, but not only. At the moment Velez is that, but UAR doens't own it.

The question is if it worths to buy and keep a Jaguares stadium (where Pumas would eventualy play, but not exclusively). We are probably talking about around 10 Jaguares-Pumas-Argentina XV matches in Buenos Aires, + club finals, possible future Sevens events, Pumitas, Las Pumas.... it would be easily 12 to 15 events/year with the Pumas still playing matches in other cities.

Just to make visible, Pumas have usualy 6 home matches/year. Jaguares 8. Argentina XV 2 or 3 in the ARC. Let's say, Buenos Aires hosts 8 Jaguares, 2 Pumas, 1 ARC, URBA final, Nacional de Clubes final and at least 1 sevens tournament = easily 14 events. And there would be 4 Pumas and 1 or 2 ARC matches to be played in other cities.

Twickenham, for exemple, hosts only around 7 England national team events/year + Sevens Series + a couple clubs events (Premiership final, a couple of Premiership big games, Varsity Match, Army)... which means, not much more than an eventual Jaguares stadium.
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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 10 Jan 2020, 15:07

So, Argentina's Nacional de Clubes will be only Semifinals-Final with 2 Interior and 2 URBA clubs... why?
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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby carbonero » Fri, 10 Jan 2020, 20:31

The excuse was to shorten the season. Amateurs were playing more matches than professionals. Now the average will be around 25 competitive games per year.

I’m sure that the union also needs to cut costs. This is our third consecutive year in recession. They were paying for travel in seven regional tournaments, Interior A, Interior B and Nacional de Clubes. Now they can focus their investment in Interior A with air travel, accommodation, ESPN broadcast, etc.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Tue, 21 Jan 2020, 14:10

URBA clubs don't want to play interior teams.

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