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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Thu, 08 Nov 2018, 17:26

Top 12 URBA - regular season final standings:

1. San Luis, 82 (18-4)
2. Belgrano, 74 (15-7)
3. Hindú, 68 (14-1-7)
4. Alumni, 68 (15-1-6)
5. Pucará, 63 (13-1-8)
6. SIC, 61 (13-9)
7. CASI, 54 (11-11)
8. Newman, 52 (10-1-11)
9. Regatas Bella Vista, 44 (8-2-12)
10. CUBA, 41 (7-15)
11. San Martín, 20 (4-18)
12. Lomas, 9 (1-21)

Semifinals:

San Luis - Alumni
Belgrano - Hindú

Lomas and San Martín were relegated. CUBA will play a repechage versus Los Tilos.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby Salta » Mon, 12 Nov 2018, 01:26

The most competitive tournament in Argentina has a new champion, Los Tarcos beat Tucuman Rugby 21-16 in the NOA tournament final.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby Canalina » Wed, 21 Nov 2018, 09:25

Do you know if and where former Italy's national team centre Gonzalo Garcia plays now? He should have come back in Argentina

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby carbonero » Wed, 21 Nov 2018, 16:41

He retired last season playing for Marista in his native Mendoza. He is now the sporting director of the club.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby Canalina » Wed, 21 Nov 2018, 17:48

Thank you :!:

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 18:57

Any news about the future of the Campeonato Argentino de Mayores?
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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby carbonero » Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 20:44

Still dead. It won't be played in 2019

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 21:18

Maybe the South American League teams in Argentina will have some link to the strongest provincial sides? I guess Tucumán Naranjas and Córdoba Dogos would be pretty much logical candidates.
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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby carbonero » Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 23:13

If it was down to tradition, there is no doubt that both of them will make the cut. The problem is securing an investor. I haven’t heard anything from them in that regard. Or from anyone to be honest.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 22:50

Alumni defeated the odds and won the Top 12 URBA versus Hindú.

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The Seven de la República (for province teams) will be held in 3 weeks.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby eal22 » Sun, 03 Feb 2019, 23:00

Can somebody clarify which clubs are playing in the Nacional de Clubes in 2019?

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 14:48

The 2019 URBA Top 12 regular season will start on March 16 and end on September 14. The semis will be on September 28-29 and the final on October 5.

The URBA Primera A / B / C will start on March 23 and end on November 2.

Full fixtures here: http://urba.org.ar/useruploads/notas/ar ... a_2672.pdf

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 14:56

The province and regional tournaments will be held from March 9 to July 27.

The Torneo del Interior A will be played from August 3 to September 28.

The Torneo del Interior B will be played from August 3 to October 19.

The Nacional de Clubes will be held from October 12 to November 16.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 21 Feb 2019, 18:12

is this really better for clubs?

I really believe the national competion should be spread through the whole year, just like the European Cup.
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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby tryman » Thu, 21 Feb 2019, 19:34

Can someone from Argentina please inform me if rugby is getting more popular in the country?

From the outside looking in the UAR do a good job, maybe that’s an incorrect statement I don’t know. The national team play matches all over the country and they seem very well attended. I believe they have academy’s set up all over the country too.

I see the former captain and great hooker Creevy has turned down big deals in Europe after the World Cup to stay in Argentina. The Super Rugby team is work in progress but very much used as a feeder team to the national side, although after the World Cup they need to start selecting foreign based players.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby JamesWales » Thu, 21 Feb 2019, 23:41

I always find looking in respective nations newspapers/websites quite a good way to gauge things.

Ole is only one, but I find relatively little rugby coverage there, and even when Jaguares play, it's towards the bottom of the website. I actually see rugby stories higher up the website in both Marca (spain) and ovacion (uruguay)

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 00:35

I don't think it's the best method. Sport daily press in Spanish-speaking countries is often comparable to tabloids in the UK. The target is more or less the same, nationalistic headlines, use of popular vocabulary... And when we know rugby is rather an elite sport in Argentina it makes sense that it hasn't got so much weight in a newspaper like Olé.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby carbonero » Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:38

tryman wrote:Can someone from Argentina please inform me if rugby is getting more popular in the country?

From the outside looking in the UAR do a good job, maybe that’s an incorrect statement I don’t know. The national team play matches all over the country and they seem very well attended. I believe they have academy’s set up all over the country too.

I see the former captain and great hooker Creevy has turned down big deals in Europe after the World Cup to stay in Argentina. The Super Rugby team is work in progress but very much used as a feeder team to the national side, although after the World Cup they need to start selecting foreign based players.

Playing numbers seem fine. There has been steady growth with upticks in World Cup years. The UAR has done a decent job sending Pumas/Arg. XV throughout the country and combining those fixtures with GIR programs, coaching clinics, legacy actions, etc. Women rugby, mixed ability and prison rugby are also making strides winning some PR points.

Media coverage is pretty much the same. Hard to sell the Pumas/Jaguares brand to a broader audience with their current form. Attendance is also an issue. In a weekend without URBA, only 7.634 fans showed up in Velez.

Creevy is staying for family reasons. Jaguares will be gutted after the RWC, particularly players in their late twenties like Matera, Petti, Lavanini, Moyano, O. Desio, Montoya, Moroni, Lezana, Tetaz etc.. I assume there will be some sort of cap threshold from then on.

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Re: Argentine club rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 23 Feb 2019, 20:40

Please remember to distinguish between fan popularity and amateur participation.

Argentina has a very healthy number of amateur players. Rugby fans are a niché versus football, where fandom is compulsory according to the constitution or so :P

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