Argentine club rugby

[olivier Profile]

I know Torneo de Clubes B is new but is it now considered as second club level ahead of Interior A ? If no, is it considered better than Interior B ?

[carbonero Profile]

I know Torneo de Clubes B is new but is it now considered as second club level ahead of Interior A?

Yes

[Salta Profile]

Torneo Regional del NOA is over, Natación y Gimnasia is the new champion after 21 years, beat Tucumán Lawn Tennis in the final.

Natación y Gimnasia, T. Lawn Tennis, Tucumán Rugby and Los Tarcos will play the Nacional de Clubes next year.

Here the last minutes of the match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBga9OulhPE

[NaBUru38 Profile]

A new Torneo de Clubes Región Centro has been created between the Córdoba, Rosario, Santa Fe, and Entre Ríos unions.



The Gold Cup has the top 3 teams from Córdoba and Litoral.
The 3 Córdoba teams will play the 3 Litoral teams over three rounds.
A final playoff will be played on October 14.

The Plate Cup is similar. The Bronze Cup was just one round of matches.

Gold Cup:

o- Tala, Tablada, Palermo Bajo.
o- Jockey de Rosario, Duendes, Gimnasia y Esgrima de Rosario.

Plate Cup:

o- Córdoba Athletic, Urú Curé, Universitario de Córdoba.
o- Estudiantes de Paraná, Santa Fe Rugby, CRAI.

[victorsra Profile Website]

It looks a great idea to have Cordoba playing Litoral clubs. Any chances to see a complete merge?

[NaBUru38 Profile]

I disagree with a merger between the Córdoba and Litoral tournaments.

Córboba and Rosario are 400 km apart. That would be too much travel for amateur clubs.

[NaBUru38 Profile]

Last weekend, the URBA Sevens was held at Regatas de Bella Vista.

Cup final: Pucará 24 - 14 Regatas
3rd, 4th: Alumni, San Albano

Plate final: San Luis 33 - 7 Atlético del Rosario
7th, 8th: Belgrano, Los Tilos

Bowl final: Banco Nación 29 - 7 Los Matreros
11th, 12th: CUBA, Pueyrredón



http://www.espn.com.ar/rugby/nota/_/id/ ... tracampeon
http://urba.org.ar/noticias/noticias/no ... e-la-URBA-

[NaBUru38 Profile]

2018 URBA schedule: http://urba.org.ar/useruploads/notas/ar ... a_2485.pdf

The Top 12 will start on April 28.

[NaBUru38 Profile]

The 2017 Seven de la República will be held on Friday 8 and Saturday 9.

Championship Zone

o- Group 1: Cuyo, Salta, Nordeste, Misiones.
o- Group 2: Buenos Aires, Mar del Plata, Lagos del Sur, Tierra del Fuego.
o- Group 3: Entrerriana (Paraná), Santafesina, Rosario, Sur (Bahía Blanca).
o- Group 4: Córdoba, Tucumán, San Juan, Santiago del Estero.

Development Zone

Group 5: Chubut, Formosa, Andina, San Luis, Uruguay (???).
Group 6: Oeste, jujuy, Alto Valle, Austral, Paraguay.

Women's

o- Group 7: Buenos Aires, Santiago del Estero, Salta.
o- Group 8: Córdoba, Alto Valle, Formosa.
o- Group 9: Tucumán, Entrerriana (Paraná), Nordeste.
o- Group 10: Santafesina, Misiones, Andina.

[victorsra Profile Website]

Brazil is not playing tournaments before Punta. We should have played at least one and we must return to the Seven de La Republica.

[eal22 Profile]

Can someone confirm all the clubs that will play in the Nacional de Clubes next season?

[carbonero Profile]

Can someone confirm all the clubs that will play in the Nacional de Clubes next season?

Buenos Aires: Pucará, S.I.C., Alumni, Hindú, C.U.B.A., Belgrano, Newman and San Luis
Litoral: Jockey and Duendes
Córdoba: Tala and La Tablada
NOA: Natación & Gimnasia, Tucumán RC, Tucumán LT and Los Tarcos

[victorsra Profile Website]

Final stadings of the Argentina's Championship:

1 - Buenos Aires - 20 points - champion
2 - Tucumán - 19 pts
3 - Cordoba - 11 pts
4 - Salta - 9 pts
5 - Cuyo - 8 pts
6 - Rosario - 7 pts

Last round:
Buenos Aires 25 x 20 Cuyo

Rosario 17 x 23 Tucumán

Salta 35 x 31 Córdoba

[carbonero Profile]

Sorry for going off-topic here, but that's really interesting. So are there any "worker's" Rugby Union clubs? Always had the feeling that those clubs were at least upper middle class, with a lot of those guys playing coming from "good families".

It is a sport clearly associated with the upper middle class. I’m not disputing that. However, there are plenty of working class clubs throughout the country. I would say more than half of the clubs in Buenos Aires fit that mold.

My issue with your comment was the inequality part. That Canada couldn’t replicate our amateur club scene because they had a more equal society. I don't follow your line of reasoning.

[NaBUru38 Profile]

2017 Seven de la República

Championship Zone

Cup final: Tucumán 21 - 12 Córdoba
Cup semifinalists: Buenos Aires, Tierra del Fuego (!!!)

Plate final: Santafesina 15 - 14 Entrerriana (Paraná)
Plate semifinalists: Cuyo, Nordeste (!!!)

Bronze final: Salta 9 - 5 San Juan
Bronze semifinalists: Mar del Plata, Lagos del Sur

Shield final: Rosario 21 - 19 Santiagueña

Relegation final: Misiones 19 - 7 Sur

Development Zone

Cup final: Uruguay 14 - 0 Paraguay
Cup semifinalists: Austral, Chubut

Plate final: Formosa 33 - 7 Oeste
Plate smifinalists: Alto Valle, San Luis

Bronze final: Andina 24 - 17 Jujuy
Bronze semifinalists: Misiones, Santiago del Estero

[carbonero Profile]

The UAR announced the schedule for their national club competitions:
Nacional de Clubes A and B: http://uar.com.ar/2017/12/12/asi-se-jue ... cion-2018/
Torneo del Interior A and B: http://uar.com.ar/2017/12/12/programaci ... -interior/
Torneo del Interior C: http://uar.com.ar/2017/12/12/se-amplia- ... a-federal/

Not surprisingly, they changed the rules on the fly. Carrasco Polo won the Interior B last season, so Uruguay was supposed to have had two clubs in Nacional B, one in Interior A and two in Interior B. Instead, the UAR gave Uruguay only one team in Interior B but added two more clubs into the brand new Interior C.

In Nacional B, Old Boys will face Lomas (Buenos Aires), Sporting (Mar del Plata) and Palermo Bajo (Córdoba). Old Christians will face C.A.S.I. (Buenos Aires), Jockey (Salta) and Los Tordos (Mendoza).

In Interior A, Montevideo Cricket will face Lince (Tucumán), C.R.A.I. (Santa Fe) and C.U.R.N.E. (Chaco).

In Interior B, Trebol will face Universitario (Mar del Plata), Roca R.C. (General Roca - Alto Valle) and San Martín (Villa Maria - Córdoba).

In Interior C, Carrarco Polo will face Córdoba R.C. (Córdoba), Cardenales (Tucumán) and Universitario (Santa Fe). P.S.G. will face Bigornia (Rawson), San Juan R.C. (San Juan) and Los Cardos (Tandil).

[NaBUru38 Profile]

Last weekend I created this Wikipedia article:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_en_ ... na_en_2018

[carbonero Profile]

Player numbers of Argentina in 2017: https://www.despuesdeltry.com/recientes ... r-del-2017
Player registration grew 5,7% in 2017 to 68.477 players. They start counting at U15 so it doesn’t include kids rugby. Nor it includes school, university and corporate rugby. Women’s rugby grew 29,7% to 3.643 players.

Top regions: Buenos Aires (24.788); Córdoba (5.198); Tucumán (3.624); Rosario (3.548) and Cuyo (3.113). Don’t have access to the complete set of
data but it looks like Andina (+41,1%) and Tucumán (40,1%) were the biggest risers.

The only worrisome number is that the desertion rate reached 35,7%. It includes old retired players and transfers abroad but even then it seems pretty high.

Some tidbits from UAR / URBA provisional Calendar for 2018: http://urba.org.ar/useruploads/notas/ar ... a_2496.pdf
Santa Fe most likely will host the second Wales test in June (the first one is set for Trelew). The rumor was that Cordoba was getting that match but it fell through once again. No idea about that last Scotland test.

Ireland, France and Scotland in the November window.

Pumitas will tour to New Zealand in March / April. They will face the youth sides of Hurricanes, Blues and Chiefs.

The calendar says that Jaguares will make their pre-season in the US. This is the first time I hear about this. The Pumas use to have their pre-WC training camp in Pensacola so Mario Ledesma may want to revisit that experience.

It is a provisional calendar but there is no news about the rumored Currie Cup participation. The SARU already extended an invitation for the 2018 edition.

[Bogdan_DC Profile]

Most countries could only dream of that number of players.

[NaBUru38 Profile]

2018 URBA schedule:

http://urba.org.ar/useruploads/notas/ar ... a_2496.pdf

[NaBUru38 Profile]

2018 Torneo Nacional de Clubes A:

Group 1: Hindú, CUBA, Tucumán Lawn Tennis, Duendes.
Group 2: Tala, Natación y Gimnasia, Belgrano, San Luis.
Group 3: Alumni, SIC, Tucumán RC, Jockey Rosario.
Group 4: Pucará, La Tablada, Los Tarcos, Newman.

2018 Torneo Nacional de Clubes B:

Group 1: San Martín, Gimnasia y Esgrima Rosario, Universitario Tucumán, Urú Curé.
Group 2: Lomas, Palermo Bajo, IPR Sporting, Old Boys.
Group 3: CASI, Old Christians, Jockey Salta, Los Tordos.
Group 4: Regatas, Estudiantes de Paraná, Córdoba Athletic, Mar del Plata Club.

[NaBUru38 Profile]

2018 Torneo del Interior A:

Group 1: Lince RC, CRAI, CURNE, Montevideo Cricket.
Group 2: Santa Fe RC, Jockey Córdoba, Taraguy, Peumayén.
Group 3: Liceo, Universitario Córdoba, Old Resian, San Ignacio.
Group 4: Huirapuca, Marista, Sociedad Sportiva, Neuquén RC.

2018 Torneo del Interior B:

Group 1: Universitario Mar del Plata, Roca, San Martín RC, Trébol.
Group 2: Jockey Villa María, Tilcara, Santiago Lawn Tennis, Aranduroga.
Group 3: Universitario Rosario, Teqüé, Sixty, Universitario Bahía Blanca.
Group 4: Universitario Salta, Comercial, Marabunta, Banco.

2018 Torneo del Interior C:

Group 1: Córdoba RC, Carrasco Polo, Universitario Santa Fe, Cardenales.
Group 2: Old Lions, CAPRI, Carlos Paz, Mendoza RC.
Group 3: San Patricio, El Nacional, Atlético Provincial, Comodoro RC.
Group 4: Bigornia, San Juan RC, Pucarú, Los Cardos.

[NaBUru38 Profile]

The 2018 Torneo Nacional de Clubes and the Torneo del Interior start this weekend, with 80 clubs competing.

[victorsra Profile Website]

1st round

Nacional A

CUBA 17 x 20 Tucumán Lawn Tennis

Hindú 25 x 27 Duendes

Tala 10 x 48 San Luis

Belgrano 27 x 27 Natación y Gimnasia

Alumni 28 x 08 Jockey de Rosario

SIC 38 x 34 Tucumán Rugby

Pucará 41 x 31 Newman

La Tablada 34 x 19 Los Tarcos


Nacional B
San Martín 26 x 36 Universitario Tucumán

GER 38 x 32 Urú Curé

Lomas 26 x 49 IPR Sporting

Palermo Bajo 30 x 07 Old Boys

CASI 59 x 28 Los Tordos

Old Christians 57 x 29 Jockey de Salta

Regatas 33 x 24 Córdoba Athletic

Estudiantes de Paraná 20 x 34 Mar del Plata Club

[eal22 Profile]

Are Nacional de Clubes matches broadcast online?