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Re: South American rugby

Postby carbonero » Thu, 17 Jan 2019, 16:59

This journo worked for the UAR until December. He hints that Talleres is the football club behind the Córdoba bid and that Bahía Blanca is also interested in joining the league > https://twitter.com/UgeAstesiano/status ... 8263046144

Plus, an interview with Sudamerica Rugby secretary > https://www.diariouno.com.ar/ovacion/ru ... _SJsjXVaG4

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Thu, 17 Jan 2019, 17:20

This article also reconfirms something we've heard before, that Colombia is trying to get a team by 2020. I think it may be better for them to loan some players to other teams for the first year and put on a full team for 2021 but a lot of them can't up and leave because of their jobs.

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Re: South American rugby

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Sat, 19 Jan 2019, 14:36

Chile playing Argentina XV as a warmup and will have 8 new caps for the ARC including Australian center Jaden Laing whose mother is from Santiago. He’s the only player based outside of Chile. Cool to see an additional match for them against Argentina but I’d imagine they get fatigued after 6 straight weeks with a match.

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2019/0 ... -friendly/

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Re: South American rugby

Postby carbonero » Sat, 19 Jan 2019, 19:27

Interview with URT president > https://www.lagaceta.com.ar/nota/795736 ... iezas.html

He looks irked with good reason at the lack of certainties. They don’t even know the terms of the tender. The franchise will represent the NOA region (Tucumán, Salta, Santiago, Jujuy) so the “Naranja” brand might not be used. He also urges the UAR to acquire more than two franchises. Tucumán Lawn Tennis will host the games > https://www.estadiosdeargentina.com.ar/ ... -club.html

Tobar wrote:...I’d imagine they get fatigued after 6 straight weeks with a match

There is a break in the middle of the tournament.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby getienne » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 13:42

Americas Rugby News site announces "Chile will play a friendly against the Argentina XV on Wednesday, January 23, at the home of CASI in Buenos Aires."
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2019/0 ... -friendly/

Chile squad :
FORWARDS
Javier Carrasco (Old Reds), Matías Dittus (Uni Catolica), Nicolás Ovalle (Old Boys), Francisco Pizarro (Viña), Augusto Böhme (Uni Católica), Tomás Dussaillant (Old Boys), Bastián Burguener (Sporting), Javier Eissmann (Uni Católica), Clemente Saavedra (Old Boys), Alfonso Escobar (COBS), Eduardo Orpis (COBS), Javier Richard (COBS), Martín Sigren (Old Boys)
BACKS
Juan Pablo Larenas (Uni Católica), Domingo Saavedra (Old Boys), Francisco González Moller (Sporting), Santiago Videla (Old Boys), Vicente Ayarza (Old Boys), Jaden Laing (Davenport Panthers, US), Gonzalo Lara (COBS), Tomás Ianiszewski (Old Locks), José Ignacio Larenas (Uni Católica), Christian Huerta (Stade Francais)

Is it an official test match (ie awards caps), or just a training/friendly match ?
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Re: South American rugby

Postby welshdragon2000 » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 15:24

I didn’t realise Davenport University were so good at rugby. I was going to apply to university there and I thought it would easy to get onto a US college team but it seems they have a lot of Australians and South Africans there. Saw clips of Jaden Laing on YouTube, he seems like a complete unit of a man (130kg). Many new names for chile or is it fairly consistent?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 16:27

Yeah Davenport’s top 5 or 6 in the country, at that level you’re getting a lot of talented players both domestic and foreign. The only outliers are Army and Navy for obvious reasons.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Sun, 20 Jan 2019, 16:37

Tobar wrote:Yeah Davenport’s top 5 or 6 in the country, at that level you’re getting a lot of talented players both domestic and foreign. The only outliers are Army and Navy for obvious reasons.


Don't think they're top 6. Life, Cal, St Mary's, Lindenwood, BYU (they seem to be in flux at the moment), Army, Navy, Penn St, Central Washington and probably a handful of others are consistently better. Good team that runs a serious program, though.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby ficcp » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 18:40

welshdragon2000 wrote:I didn’t realise Davenport University were so good at rugby. I was going to apply to university there and I thought it would easy to get onto a US college team but it seems they have a lot of Australians and South Africans there. Saw clips of Jaden Laing on YouTube, he seems like a complete unit of a man (130kg). Many new names for chile or is it fairly consistent?


In my opinion Lemoine is increasing the base of the XV. The last match used several members of the successful VII team which must concentrate in Las Vegas, Vancouver, Hong Kong and Panamerican and Olimpic classification tournaments. The first choice scrum half moved to Austin so he won´t be part of the team.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 20:50

Why couldn't he be part of it? He should be allowed to be released for a few weeks for ARC, it's not during the designated release period but IIRC MLR clubs are fine releasing for a few weeks.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby carbonero » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 16:23

Streaming for Arg. XV - Chile (14.30 local time) > http://www.espn.com.ar/rugby/nota/_/id/ ... a-xv-chile

Uruguay squad for Jaguares with seven MLR players > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxmSSl_WwAAIyCN.jpg

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 17:14

Would’ve thought that they wouldn’t be able to play because MLR is kicking off this weekend. Surely they can’t play in both even if they’re a few days apart.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Wed, 23 Jan 2019, 19:15

FT Argentina XV 47 - 14 Chile

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Re: South American rugby

Postby carbonero » Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 02:48

FT Jaguares 61-00 Uruguay > http://www.espn.com.ar/video/clip?id=5206276

Nice turnout with 10.000 fans in attendance. Uruguay’s first choice front row got slaughtered in scrums. Brazil must be salivating.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby qwerty » Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 03:09

I watched the game, not because it was interesting to see a Uruguayan team with several key players missing against a vastly superior team, but because it was the first time we played in Montevideo at night.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby ficcp » Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 03:30

Armchair Fan wrote:FT Argentina XV 47 - 14 Chile


It was an improvement respect to last ARC : 57-12. Lemoine is increasing the base of players for the national team, I expect a better ARC this year although the target is not high. I hope he will have 2 or 3 years to really improve the team. The rotation of Head coach has been too high while the VII team has had the same coach for 10 years, with quite different results.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 20:57

Tobar wrote: it's not during the designated release period but IIRC MLR clubs are fine releasing for a few weeks


Piñeyrúa mentioned that MLR teams don't give players as easily.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 03:35

carbonero wrote:FT Jaguares 61-00 Uruguay > http://www.espn.com.ar/video/clip?id=5206276

Nice turnout with 10.000 fans in attendance. Uruguay’s first choice front row got slaughtered in scrums. Brazil must be salivating.


If it makes Uruguay fans feel any better they lost to the US 61-19 last year and Jaguares should be considerably better as they are pretty much the full Argentina side, minus a couple of Europeans of course.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby carbonero » Fri, 01 Mar 2019, 17:14

Colombia announced the creation of the Copa Colombia for their best 100 players > http://colombia.rugby/2019/02/28/mejora ... s-niveles/

Five round competition in Medellin. Four clubs from Antioquia reinforced with players from other teams of the region. Plus two representative teams from the North and South of the country. They are also beefing up their staff and starting their HP program.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby RugInt » Sun, 03 Mar 2019, 00:29

Is it an official test match (ie awards caps), or just a training/friendly match ?
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Re: South American rugby

Postby carbonero » Sun, 03 Mar 2019, 14:08

Sudamericano U20 in Montevideo > http://uru.org.uy/los-teritos-m20-se-pr ... 13?nid=905

Just two games this time around. Weird that Paraguay didn’t make the cut. They have beaten Brazil consistently at this level. The Uruguay - Chile semifinal is also the qualifier for the Junior World Trophy.

The Teros U18 debut next weekend in the second tier of the Argentino Juvenil. They drew Santiago (H), Chubut (A) and Nordeste (N). The third round plus the playoffs start on March 31 in Santa Fe. Chile and Paraguay will feature in the third tier of competition on March 15-17.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 03 Mar 2019, 18:06

Yes, Paraguay out is weird, but for sure Brazil would be in because the 2019 U20s Trophy will be here.

Would be better to have Uruguay vs Brazil, Chile vs Paraguay. And the tournament's winner could host Argentina in another date, closer to both World tournaments.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Sun, 03 Mar 2019, 18:56

carbonero wrote:Colombia announced the creation of the Copa Colombia for their best 100 players > http://colombia.rugby/2019/02/28/mejora ... s-niveles/

Five round competition in Medellin. Four clubs from Antioquia reinforced with players from other teams of the region. Plus two representative teams from the North and South of the country. They are also beefing up their staff and starting their HP program.


Nice, surprised I didn’t see this sooner. They need to put together some sort of HP program before considering a professional league. This is a good start.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Tue, 05 Mar 2019, 14:23

Colombia Calling Podcast: Bringing rugby and surfing to at risk Colombian children

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6U4YwA ... 30Utj5sWGA

This is an English language podcast about Colombia. It’s pretty good for anyone interested in Colombia politics and culture but it is run by a British expat and usually has Americans or British guests so it’d be nice to have more Colombians from time to time.

Anyway, I suggested that the host talk rugby (since he’s British and played) and he knows Andrew Wright who is very involved with Colombian rugby. Half the podcast is about surfing (so if that’s your thing then great) but the other half is all about his rugby foundation. Some good stuff here.

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