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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 05 Feb 2018, 16:27

It looks like the U20 South American Championship will be in April. Any news?
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Re: South American rugby

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Re: South American rugby

Postby SallesNeto_BR » Wed, 07 Feb 2018, 13:10

Too similar to the football logo...

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 13:41

http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/0 ... ugby-u20s/

Paraguay is set to host the U20s South American Championship. The text say the dates are TBA, but I belive it will be in April
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Re: South American rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 16:13

argie wrote:Chile Rugby have a new image.
https://twitter.com/chilerugby1/status/ ... 5744365571
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Ew...I'm much more of a traditionalist when it comes to logos. Our current one sucks.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby carbonero » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 19:24

victorsra wrote:http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/02/14/paraguay-host-sudamerica-rugby-u20s/

Paraguay is set to host the U20s South American Championship. The text say the dates are TBA, but I belive it will be in April

http://www.abc.com.py/edicion-impresa/d ... 73621.html

April 8th to the 14th. Uruguay, Chile, Brazil, Paraguay, Colombia and Venezuela. I'm sure you'll be livid with the tournament format.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 20:32

Oh, now I understand. 2 conferences of 3 and each team only plays the teams of the other group?
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 14 Feb 2018, 20:37

So, if I understood, we'll have Uruguay, Brazil and Venezuela in one group. Chile, Paraguay and Colombia in the other group.

And this means that if Brazil beats Chile, Paraguay and Colombia and Uruguay the same both Brazil and Uruguay would be tied and the champion would be decided without the best and unbeaten teams facing each other?

Great format to choose who will represent the continent in the U20 World Trophy :thumbup:

I can't understand WHY.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby RugbyLiebe » Thu, 15 Feb 2018, 09:56

victorsra wrote:So, if I understood, we'll have Uruguay, Brazil and Venezuela in one group. Chile, Paraguay and Colombia in the other group.

And this means that if Brazil beats Chile, Paraguay and Colombia and Uruguay the same both Brazil and Uruguay would be tied and the champion would be decided without the best and unbeaten teams facing each other?

Great format to choose who will represent the continent in the U20 World Trophy :thumbup:

I can't understand WHY.


Unbelievable format. I mean the format itself like in the Continental Shield is the biggest bullshit ever invented, but this is the bullshit-topping on the icecream.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 15 Feb 2018, 13:38

This is the Nations Cup format. But we took it to new heights because it the the U20 World Trophy Qualy!
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 12:00

Uruguay Rugby Union is seeking a South American franchise league to prepare theirselves in case Super Rugby expands in the future:
https://www.referi.uy/se-viene-el-rugby ... a-n1174916

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 14:14

Oh, finally!

But they need to forget Super Rugby. Nothing will happen there. It can even melt.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 14:35

According to the URU president, the professional league would start in 2019 or 2020.

It would have 8 teams, and Uruguay might have two.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 14:48

Those guys are trying everything. It's been not even one year since they said the goal is a Currie Cup team for Uruguay and Brazil. In 2016, they already talked about Super Rugby... the league was reduced and they keep talking about it. I don't know which kind of masterplan they really have.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Buffalo » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 16:03

What would be a realistic distribution for the hypothetical 8 teams? Two Uruguay, two Brazil, two Chile, Paraguay and Colombia?

If you could get Argentina on board it would really help the overall talent level of the league and push the other nations hard. But they dig their amateur setup and their club level is probably world's better than this league would be. Three Argentina, two Uruguay, Brazil, Chile and Paraguay could be a fun competitive league. Well maybe less so Paraguay.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 16:06

I understand Argentina would be onboard and have lots of weight in that hypothetic league. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Argentina 4, Uruguay 2, Brazil 1 and Chile 1.

This version of the article also suggests some kind of tournament between winners of South American tournament and MLR:
https://www.referi.uy/se-viene-el-rugby ... a-n1174916

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Osmanperalta » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 17:18

the best news! :shock: :D
for me a good option would be in 8 teams 2 argentinian, 2 uruguay, 2 brazil, chile and paraguay. Rugby in Colombia is growing a lot but I dont know, traveling through south america is very expensive

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Re: South American rugby

Postby 4N » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 17:57

The standard of MLR is not going to be high. I hope South America can get some sort of Copa Libertadores tournament going, ideally involving the Argentine provinces (not club teams), and hopefully Uruguay and Brazil set up similar provinces or franchises. But IMO playing in a club tournament against North American teams with no fans does nothing for you. Uruguay are already at a level where they're beating Canada over two legs.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby 4N » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 17:59

Osmanperalta wrote:the best news! :shock: :D
for me a good option would be in 8 teams 2 argentinian, 2 uruguay, 2 brazil, chile and paraguay. Rugby in Colombia is growing a lot but I dont know, traveling through south america is very expensive


Paraguay? On what basis? Chile barely deserves it at this stage. 4 Argentine, 2 Uruguay and 2 Brazil would be best, or take one spot away from one of the latter for a Santiago team if they must but Chile's development and fan engagement has not been impressive.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Osmanperalta » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 18:11

If you investigate something you will learn that Paraguay has a lot of history in south american rugby, now it is true that their level is not the highest but they have infrastructures (in fact they have their own stadium) and many players so they could improve again.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby 4N » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 18:27

Whether they used to beat Brazil or whatever isn't really relevant. They don't have the players of the required standard. And while building a stadium is great work for a Tier 3 nation, let's be realistic. This isn't a ground for professional rugby.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Osmanperalta » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 18:39

For super rugby, premiership or top 14 no.. but for rugby in south america its not bad at all..

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 21:04

The problem about Paraguay is first of all money. The franchises will be payed by whom?
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 21:07

I would start with: 4 in Argentina, 2 in Brazil, 1 Uruguay, 1 Chile.

Seriously, Uruguayan market can't sustain 2 pro teams. It is not about players, it is about MONEY. Brazil would be able to take players from other countries to make 2 teams competitive. Any other setup different from this would make the Argentine teams much stronger than the rest.

Colombia is too far, it would cost A LOT for them to travel. Not the time. First we need the competition doing well comercially.

I even doubt Argentina can make 4 teams sustainable.

6 teams would be much more rational.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Osmanperalta » Sat, 24 Feb 2018, 21:13

You are right victor six teams its the best option

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