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Postby victorsra » Fri, 09 May 2014, 22:56

Paraguay vs Brazil, in Luque - Club General Paz - 20:20 GMT

Brazil: Jonatas Paulo (Chabal), Daniel Danielewicz (Nativo), Jardel Vettorato (Jarda), Pedro Rosa, Lucas Piero de Moraes (Bruxinho), João Luiz da Ros (Ige), Saulo Oliveira, Nick Smith, Leandro Castiglioni (Leco), Pedro Di Pilla, Andre Luis Nascimento (Boy), Alexandre Browne (Sandy), Martin Schaefer, Pedro Henrique Lopes, Guilherme Coghetto.

Reservas: Jardel Mendonça (Cocão), Moises Cavalleri (Monte), Luiz Leme Vieira (Monstro), Lucas Abud de Andrade, Lucas Tranquez (Zé), Bruno Garcia, João Pires Neto (Torosso), Matheus Daniel (Matias), Roberto Bromi Cargnin (Baby).

Uruguay vs Chile, in Montevideo - 19:45 GMT
Uruguai: 1 Alejo Corral, 2 Arturo Avalo, 3 Oscar Duran, 4 Mathías Palomeque, 5 Santiago Vilaseca, 6 Juan Gaminara, 7 Diego Magno, 8 Alejandro Nieto, 9 Alejo Duran, 10 Rodrigo Silva, 11 Leandro Leivas, 12 Juan de Freitas, 13 Joaqupin Prada, 14 Federico Favaro, 15 Gastón Mieres

Chile: 1 Sebastián Valech, 2 Felipe Burgos, 3 Luis Sepulveda, 4 Ignacio Alvarez, 5 Mario Mayol, 6 Benjamín Soto, 7 Ignacio Silva, 8 Anton Petrowitsch, 9 Jan Hasenlechner, 10 Cristian Ontetto, 11 Italo Zunino, 12 Matías Verschae, 13 Matías Nordenflycht, 14 Martín Verschae, 15 Martín Fernández.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby mestre » Sat, 10 May 2014, 03:12

victorsra wrote:Paraguay vs Brazil, in Luque - Club General Paz - 20:20 GMT

Brazil: Jonatas Paulo (Chabal), Daniel Danielewicz (Nativo), Jardel Vettorato (Jarda), Pedro Rosa, Lucas Piero de Moraes (Bruxinho), João Luiz da Ros (Ige), Saulo Oliveira, Nick Smith, Leandro Castiglioni (Leco), Pedro Di Pilla, Andre Luis Nascimento (Boy), Alexandre Browne (Sandy), Martin Schaefer, Pedro Henrique Lopes, Guilherme Coghetto.

Reservas: Jardel Mendonça (Cocão), Moises Cavalleri (Monte), Luiz Leme Vieira (Monstro), Lucas Abud de Andrade, Lucas Tranquez (Zé), Bruno Garcia, João Pires Neto (Torosso), Matheus Daniel (Matias), Roberto Bromi Cargnin (Baby).

Uruguay vs Chile, in Montevideo - 19:45 GMT
Uruguai: 1 Alejo Corral, 2 Arturo Avalo, 3 Oscar Duran, 4 Mathías Palomeque, 5 Santiago Vilaseca, 6 Juan Gaminara, 7 Diego Magno, 8 Alejandro Nieto, 9 Alejo Duran, 10 Rodrigo Silva, 11 Leandro Leivas, 12 Juan de Freitas, 13 Joaqupin Prada, 14 Federico Favaro, 15 Gastón Mieres

Chile: 1 Sebastián Valech, 2 Felipe Burgos, 3 Luis Sepulveda, 4 Ignacio Alvarez, 5 Mario Mayol, 6 Benjamín Soto, 7 Ignacio Silva, 8 Anton Petrowitsch, 9 Jan Hasenlechner, 10 Cristian Ontetto, 11 Italo Zunino, 12 Matías Verschae, 13 Matías Nordenflycht, 14 Martín Verschae, 15 Martín Fernández.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 10 May 2014, 11:53

Big game for Brazil. IF they can win they'll take second spot and claim a place in the CONSUR Cup to play ARG at home next year. That would be the biggest home game for BRA ever probably.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby getienne » Sat, 10 May 2014, 12:03

PARAGUAY – BRASIL
Paraguay: 1.- Omar Rojas, 2.- Juan Gavigán, 3.- Alvaro Rojas; 4.- Félix Zárate, 5.- Williams Portillo; 6.- Carlos Plate, 7.- Marcos Riquelme, 8.- Miguel Jara; 9.- Gonzalo Bareiro, 10.- Gerard Cuttier; 11.- Eymard Brizuela, 12.- Martín Ortiz, 13.- Diego Argaña (c), 14.- Rodrigo Llamosas, 15.- Sergio Alvarenga.
Suplentes sin numerar: Gustavo Zárate, Igor Kostianosvki, Carlos Ortiz, Juan Cabañas, Pablo Espínola, Horacio Agüero, Rodrigo Da Rosa, Leonardo Glizt, Carlos Bareiro, Manuel Careaga.
Entrenadores: Jorge Matiauda, Mauricio Reggiardo, Alberto Daher y Manuel Ruiz.

Brasil: 1.- Jonatas Paulo "Chabal", 2.- Daniel Danielewicz "Nativo" (c), 3.- Jardel Vettorato "Jarda"; 4.- Pedro Rosa, .- Lucas Piero de Moraes "Bruxinho"; 6.- João Luiz da Ros "Ige", 7.- Saulo Oliveira, 8.- Nick Smith; 9.- Leandro Castiglioni "Leco", 10.- Pedro Di Pilla; 11.- Andre Luis Nascimento "Boy", 12.- Alexandre Browne "Sandy", 13.- Martin Schaefer, 14.- Pedro Henrique Lopes, 15.- Guilherme Coghetto.
Suplentes sin numerar: Jardel Mendonça "Cocão", Moises Cavalleri "Monte", Luiz Leme Vieira "Monstro", Lucas Abud de Andrade, Lucas Tranquez "Zé", Bruno Garcia, João Pires Neto "Torosso", Matheus Daniel "Matias", Roberto Bromi Cargnin "Baby".
Entrenador: Brent Frew

Kick-Off: 15:30 horas
Cancha: Club General Díaz (Luque)
Referee: Jason MOLA (UAR);
RA1: Emilio TRAVERSO (UAR);
RA2: Mauricio ESCALANTE (UAR).

http://www.consur.org/index.php/torneos ... yor-a-2014

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Re: South American rugby

Postby getienne » Sat, 10 May 2014, 12:04

URUGUAY – CHILE
Uruguay: 1.- Alejo Corral, 2.- Arturo Avalo (c), 3.- Oscar Duran; 4.- Mathias Palomeque, 5.- Santiago Vilaseca; 6.- Juan Gaminara, 7.- Diego Magno, 8.- Alejandro Nieto; 9.- Alejo Duran, 10.- Rodrigo Silva; 11.- Federico Favaro, 12.- Juan De Freitas, 13.- Joaquin Prada, 14.- Leandro Leivas, 15.- Gaston Mieres.
Suplentes: 16.- Rodolfo De Mula, 17.- Francisco Jimenez, 18.- Nicolas Klappenbach, 19.- Matias Braun, 20.- Gabriel Puig, 21.- Matias Beer, 22.- Francisco Vecino, 23.- Matias Arocena.
Entrenador: Pablo Lemoine

Chile: 1.- Sebastián Valech Alonso, 2.- Felipe Burgos Poblete, 3.- Luis Sepulveda; 4.- Ignacio Alvarez, 5.- Mario Mayol; 6.- Benjamín Soto, 7.- Ignacio Silva (c), 8.- Anton Petrowitsch; 9.- Jan Hasenlechner, 10.- Cristian Onetto; 11.- Italo Zunino, 12.- Matias Verschae, 13.- Matías Nordenflycht, 14.- Martin Verschae, 15.- Martín Fernández.
Suplentes: 16.- Hernan Amigo, 17.- Nicolás Venegas, 18.- Nikola Bursic, 19.- Rolando Pellerano, 20.- Juan Pablo Larenas, 21.- Daniel Jammet, 22.- Francisco Fernández, 23.- Roberto Oyarzún Yañez
Entrenadores: Elías Santillán y Mark Cross

Kick-Off: 15:45
Cancha: Estadio Charrúa (Montevideo)
Referee: Ignacio IPARRAGUIRRE (UAR);
RA1: Matias FRESIA (UAR);
RA2: Andres SUTTON (UAR).

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Re: South American rugby

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sat, 10 May 2014, 12:43

getienne wrote:PARAGUAY – BRASIL
Paraguay: 1.- Omar Rojas, 2.- Juan Gavigán, 3.- Alvaro Rojas; 4.- Félix Zárate, 5.- Williams Portillo; 6.- Carlos Plate, 7.- Marcos Riquelme, 8.- Miguel Jara; 9.- Gonzalo Bareiro, 10.- Gerard Cuttier; 11.- Eymard Brizuela, 12.- Martín Ortiz, 13.- Diego Argaña (c), 14.- Rodrigo Llamosas, 15.- Sergio Alvarenga.
Suplentes sin numerar: Gustavo Zárate, Igor Kostianosvki, Carlos Ortiz, Juan Cabañas, Pablo Espínola, Horacio Agüero, Rodrigo Da Rosa, Leonardo Glizt, Carlos Bareiro, Manuel Careaga.
Entrenadores: Jorge Matiauda, Mauricio Reggiardo, Alberto Daher y Manuel Ruiz.

Brasil: 1.- Jonatas Paulo "Chabal", 2.- Daniel Danielewicz "Nativo" (c), 3.- Jardel Vettorato "Jarda"; 4.- Pedro Rosa, .- Lucas Piero de Moraes "Bruxinho"; 6.- João Luiz da Ros "Ige", 7.- Saulo Oliveira, 8.- Nick Smith; 9.- Leandro Castiglioni "Leco", 10.- Pedro Di Pilla; 11.- Andre Luis Nascimento "Boy", 12.- Alexandre Browne "Sandy", 13.- Martin Schaefer, 14.- Pedro Henrique Lopes, 15.- Guilherme Coghetto.
Suplentes sin numerar: Jardel Mendonça "Cocão", Moises Cavalleri "Monte", Luiz Leme Vieira "Monstro", Lucas Abud de Andrade, Lucas Tranquez "Zé", Bruno Garcia, João Pires Neto "Torosso", Matheus Daniel "Matias", Roberto Bromi Cargnin "Baby".
Entrenador: Brent Frew

Kick-Off: 15:30 horas
Cancha: Club General Díaz (Luque)
Referee: Jason MOLA (UAR);
RA1: Emilio TRAVERSO (UAR);
RA2: Mauricio ESCALANTE (UAR).

http://www.consur.org/index.php/torneos ... yor-a-2014


getienne, no need to re-post when another poster has already posted the same info as victorsa had done.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 10 May 2014, 20:19

HT - Paraguay 16 x 3 Brazil (PAR: 1T by Ortiz, 1 conv and 3 pen by Alvarenga / BRA: 1 pen by Leco)

HT - Uruguay 17 x 0 Chile
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 10 May 2014, 20:44

FT - Uruguai 55 x 13 Chile - Biggest win ever for Teros against Cóndores

FT - Paraguay 31 x 24 Brazil

Final standings
1 - Uruguai - 9 p. - champion
2 - Paraguai - 3 p., av -21
3 - Brasil - 3 p., av -24
4 - Chile - 3 p., av -46
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Re: South American rugby

Postby 4N » Sat, 10 May 2014, 21:30

Paraguay 31 - 24 Brazil

Didn't watch but read there were a couple of cracking tries for both sides. Paraguayan major media outlets congratulating the team on Twitter... the game is in pretty good health in South America.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby YamahaKiwi » Sun, 11 May 2014, 04:08

So it's Paraguay that will get a home tilt at the Pumas next year. Brazil must be kicking themselves...for the love of three points! Apparently there's civil war in Chilean rugby at the mo. Don't know why some tier two-three unions have a discouraging tendency to shoot themselves in the foot. Paraguay got badly beaten in CONSUR A a few years ago and for the same reason.

this from ARG2023 Blog:
Chile's team that took on Uruguay, and earlier both Brazil and Paraguay, was for all intents purposes Chile B. The internal crisis involving Chilean rugby saw a weak side take to the field for all three test matches and the country now faces the possibility of losing to Argentina by a record margin in the CONSUR Cup.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby 4N » Mon, 12 May 2014, 16:14

Uruguay to play Argentina 17 May in Paysandu, at the below football stadium. I think this may be the first time the Teros have taken a home match away from the capital.

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Video showing the final moments of Paraguay - Brazil, and the post-match reactions. Quite a vibrant crowd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10f_o_70fp0

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Re: South American rugby

Postby 4N » Wed, 21 May 2014, 04:45

According to this, Paraguay will play in the Americas Rugby Championship against the A sides of Argentina, Canada and the US. Set for Toronto next October: http://www.abc.com.py/deportes/polidepo ... 46710.html

Ex Puma Mauricio Reggiardo is advising them currently. It seems the UAR are forging strong links with the Paraguayan union.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Wed, 21 May 2014, 04:55

Uruguay to be unavailable due to repechage? That's big for Paraguay.

Edit: wonder what the venue in Toronto will be?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby grande » Wed, 21 May 2014, 12:20

Huh, interesting. I can't image it will be BMO field (since it's just A-Teams). Lamport Stadium (home of the rugby league team) holds about 10,000, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it in Fletcher's Field (capacity ~3,000) in Markham (North of Toronto)

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Re: South American rugby

Postby 4N » Wed, 21 May 2014, 16:08

One positive thing about the emergence of Paraguay is that it's a pretty young country overall, with an average median age just below 25. Which seems to be reflected in the stands when I've watched their home matches.

For comparison, the average median age in both Japan and Italy is about 44. Uruguay is around 33, Brazil and Argentina both close to 30.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby 4N » Fri, 23 May 2014, 17:34

Coloradoan wrote:Uruguay to be unavailable due to repechage?


Apparently not. They're reached out to the IRB inquiring why Paraguay were invited over them.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby martin.dunham » Fri, 23 May 2014, 20:31

Even if they're in repechage I'm sure Uruguay would've liked to put an A side in.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Fri, 23 May 2014, 20:51

In the past Uruguay hasn't entered an A side into the comp, though. It's always been their full test side, albeit with a somewhat experimental slant. Even though a Uruguayan A side might be stronger than a full Paraguayan test side, it's a big opportunity for Paraguay to test themselves against higher competition and get some good publicity for the game in Paraguay. It would be so great if we could get a few other teams in the Americas up to a Uruguay-type level or higher and get a Pan American championship.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Buffalo » Fri, 23 May 2014, 21:28

Maybe with Uruguay doing the RWCQ still they thought it would be a good chance to give another South American country a shot while keeping the ARC at a simple 4 team format? Playing Argentina, Canada and America has definitely helped out Uruguay so maybe we should spread the love around.

Anyways as bad as this is for Uruguay it's great for Paraguay, especially if Uruguay were to get added back in. Playing the Jaguars, USA Selects and Canada A will do more for them than playing the likes of Chile and Brazil. Uruguay is already a tough enough test and Paraguay, Brazil and Chile are getting better. If we can get Mexico to a respectable level then we could have a hell of a continental tournament. For the next ARC I'd hope for a 6 team format with Paraguay, Chile, Brazil and the next top ranked CONSUR/NACRA national team having a playoff for the final two spots behind the Big 4.

As for the venue in Toronto, I'd say Lamport would be a logical location. As was stated above it's the home of Canada's Rugby League team so it should be decent venue. BMO is too big for the ARC in it's current format. Even Lamport and it's near 10k seats seems a tad large.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 24 May 2014, 23:08

Is it viable to think about an ARC home and away with full-strenght Canada and USA? I think about a competition played during Rugby Championship period. Argentina could field a Jaguares team, that would provide activity for Super Rugby Argentina's franchise players that were left out of Pumas, with also local players (let's think it in ITM Cup/NRC/Currie Cup logic)

South American Championship and NACRA Championship could be the second divisions for ARC, with promotion/relegation playoffs. Of course ARC fourth side would be left out of South American Championship, as Argentina was in 2014 (playing just the CONSUR Cup).

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ARC: Argentina (Jaguares), Uruguay, Canada and USA

SAC: Brazil, Chile, Paraguay and Colombia - champion vs Jaguares or Uruguay / bottom relegated to SAC B
NAC: Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Bermuda and Cayman - champion vs Canada or USA / bottom relegated to NAC B
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Coloradoan » Sat, 24 May 2014, 23:25

Not realistic due to all of the overseas pros. You could get a domestic Eagles side, but then that's basically what we send to the ARC anyway. Personally, I'd be in favor of moving the ARC to August as many college players in the US can't take the time off school to play in the ARC in October.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby grande » Sun, 25 May 2014, 01:28

victorsra, I like the way you're thinking, but I don't think it's viable.

1. What Coloradoan wrote.
2. Uruguay's national team came in last place when playing the Canada A and USA Selects. They'd do even worse against the full strength squads.
3. The other NACRA teams are so far below Canada & the US it'd be worthless to have a game with them at this point. I'd imagine it's a similar situation with the CONSUR teams, although probably not as bad?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 25 May 2014, 16:33

I think the main issues are the costs of the trips. The same way Argentina now use Europe-based players in RC, Canada and USA could do the same. It's a matter of IRB make it possible (which of course is not simple). Both need a better competition out of june/november fixtures, like 6N and RC nations.

Uruguay will lose all the matches, indeed, but they proved against USA they can perform well with a strong calendar ahead. As far as I remember in all ARC competition till now Uruguay used a squad mixed with youngsters and veterans. RWC Qualy squad was stronger, even without Capó Ortega. This model was used once in RWC 2003 and RWC 1999 Qualys.

About NACRA playoff, yes, there a huge difference, but this could be a match for Canada/USA amateurs/varsity players. It's important to keep a promotion path open.

Colombia vs Brazil/Chile/Paraguay is also an uneven match, but CONSUR need to provide a promotion path for now South American B nations.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Buffalo » Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:38

I could see the NACRA winner maybe play a team from the BC or Ontario Premier leagues. Maybe even the Alberta premier league or Newfie league(I don't know anything about them though). Someone made it clear to me how bad the other NACRA nations really are in a different thread. I use to think we should send down one of the CRC teams(BC Bears, Prairie Wolf Pack, Ontario Blues, The Rock) but now I realize that's a bad idea for a good long while yet. And the NACRA teams already play USA South so they have experience against a not so strong US side.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 26 May 2014, 16:42

Copa CONSUR

Chile 12 x 73 Argentina, em Santiago

Árbitro: Alejandro Longres (Uruguai)



Argentina

Tries: Joaquín Tuculet (2), Julián Montoya, Bruno Postiglioni, Ramiro Moyano, Antonio Ahualli de Chazal, Lucas González Amorosino, Gabriel Ascárate, Nicolás Sánchez, Lucas Ponce e Jerónimo De la Fuente.

Conversões: Nicolás Sánchez (9)

1- Bruno Postiglioni, 2- Julián Montoya, 3- Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro; 4- Tomás Lavanini, 5- Matías Alemanno; 6- Javier Ortega Desio, 7- Lisandro Ahualli de Chazal, 8- Antonio Ahualli de Chazal; 9- Martín Landajo (c), 10- Nicolás Sánchez; 11- Lucas González Amorosino, 12- Javier Rojas, 13- Gabriel Ascárate, 14- Ramiro Moyano; 15- Joaquín Tuculet.

Chile

Penais: Martín Fernández (4)

1- Sebastián Valech, 2- Hernán Amigo, 3- Luis Sepúlveda; 4- Roberto Oyarzún, 5- Nikola Bursic; 6- Benjamín Soto, 7- Ignacio Silva, 8- Anton Petrowitsch; 9- Juan Pablo Larenas, 10- Cristian Onetto; 11- Italo Zunino, 12- Daniel Jamett, 13- Matías Nordenflycht, 14- Martín Verschae; 15- Martín Fernández.
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