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Re: South American rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 20:31

Obviously somebody investing its money in Brazilian rugby is positive, they see growth potential. But CVC hasn't proven to be the most reliable partner in other ventures.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Blurandski » Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 20:50

Armchair Fan wrote:Obviously somebody investing its money in Brazilian rugby is positive, they see growth potential. But CVC hasn't proven to be the most reliable partner in other ventures.


Looks like Rugby as a whole is getting into bed with them. From a T2/3 perspective this is probably positive, for in order to get a good return they need to grow the sport as a whole, and won't be so sympathetic to cartelistic arguments.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 21:00

The problem is that their F1 spell only showed they are money-grabbers looking for short-term profit and a future resell by engaging as little as possible in necessary long-term changes.

Unless they have changed their strategy, the biggest spillover to Tier 2 and 3 countries will be Tier 1 games played in neutral venues.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Blurandski » Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 21:10

Armchair Fan wrote:The problem is that their F1 spell only showed they are money-grabbers looking for short-term profit and a future resell by engaging as little as possible in necessary long-term changes.

Unless they have changed their strategy, the biggest spillover to Tier 2 and 3 countries will be Tier 1 games played in neutral venues.


Yes agreed, but all those levers have already been pulled in (most of) rugby. It's already been sold out to pay TV, has games abroad in neutral venues, and do whatever grabs more money. There are no more instant wins, and certainly none that would return a substantial enough return.

If they are investing in the LSAR then it's in their best interest to support it and make it work, who cares if they cream off a few million if it makes LSAR into a genuine top tier competition?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby carbonero » Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 22:42

victorsra wrote:...isn't CVC Private Equity listed as a CBRu partner?

They don’t invest in startups. The CBRU partners with their philanthropic branch “CVC and the Community”. Apparently, they provide “free high quality sport training, education, nutrition advice, mentoring and potential career opportunities in the sport of rugby for teenagers from all over Brazil”.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 00:49

All over Brazil? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They aren't.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 17:27

The Colombian Rugby Federation is well regarded by the Colombian Olympic Committee.

http://sudamerica.rugby/espanol/reconoc ... -3?nid=229

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Canalina » Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 19:55


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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 23:42

Awesome, first ever test for Bolivia!
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Canalina » Fri, 20 Sep 2019, 07:30

Some more info about this game?
Is it really a test match?
Somehow I doubt that Paraguay would field a proper national team against an unexperienced team like Bolivia, but the poster is from Paraguayan Federation itself and it says clear and straight "Paraguay vs Bolivia"

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 20 Sep 2019, 10:10

Bolivia is a Sudamerica Rugby member but not World Rugby.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Canalina » Fri, 20 Sep 2019, 10:59

What I meant was to know if the Paraguayan one will be a real national team or a local/partial select to which they gave the name "Paraguay" to make the game more significant. But, ok, as far as we don't know something opposite, let's consider it a proper test match and the full debut of Bolivia

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Re: South American rugby

Postby argie » Fri, 20 Sep 2019, 22:23

Canalina wrote:Some more info about this game?
Is it really a test match?
Somehow I doubt that Paraguay would field a proper national team against an unexperienced team like Bolivia, but the poster is from Paraguayan Federation itself and it says clear and straight "Paraguay vs Bolivia"


It says this game will be a Test Match.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby argie » Fri, 20 Sep 2019, 22:32

I'm confused. Is Mark Camburn the Head Coach of the Bolivian National team?.
https://twitter.com/CamburnMark

Edit: No, he's a player. The HC is Pablo Lavezzo.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Canalina » Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 04:43

They will play a second game sunday morning

“Jugaremos dos partidos, el viernes y el domingo por la mañana para retornar a Bolivia ese día por la noche. El sábado tendremos una sesión de recuperación en conjunto con Paraguay y por la tarde una charla entrenamiento con Raúl Pérez, exentrenador de Jaguares y actual head coach de la franquicia profesional del Paraguay”

I can't still find this night (yesterday evening) result

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Canalina » Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 08:48

According to a tweet, Paraguay won not conceding a single point to Bolivia. But it didn't specify the score

Paraguayan fans seem not enthusiast about these two fixtures: "we used to defeat Brazil and Chile and now we play with Bolivia? What happened?!?", they ask more or less ironically

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Edgar » Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 15:22

Paraguay 109 Bolivia 0

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 18:32

They beat Chile ONCE, come on...

But yes, they should be concerned indeed.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Armchair Fan » Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 19:14

Victor, don't let facts ruin people good old memories. Even today you read here people claiming Spain used to beat Italy once upon a time...

Or my favorite, how a ton of Tier 2, Tier 3 nations remember they once beat a Scottish underage side during their horrible nineties and early noughties.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 22:39

:lol: true
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Canalina » Sun, 22 Sep 2019, 19:04

Armchair Fan wrote:Victor, don't let facts ruin people good old memories. Even today you read here people claiming Spain used to beat Italy once upon a time...

Or my favorite, how a ton of Tier 2, Tier 3 nations remember they once beat a Scottish underage side during their horrible nineties and early noughties.

Twenty years ago I was stronger at rugby than how Romain N’tamack was ! :thumbup:

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Canalina » Sun, 22 Sep 2019, 19:06

Still no score from the second Paraguay v Bolivia game

Despite the large score of the first match they were going to play today morning again

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Canalina » Mon, 23 Sep 2019, 04:04

Second game wasn't a full test match

Paraguay U19 v Bolivia 73-7

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 09 Oct 2019, 13:51

Meanwhile Sudamerica Rugby did development work in Peru: http://sudamerica.rugby/espanol/visita-a-peru-3?nid=237

But still no fixtures for a South American 2nd division...
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Thomas » Fri, 11 Oct 2019, 07:10

A Bolivia XV playing a Salta development squad this Saturday

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