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Re: South American rugby

Postby Thomas » Wed, 20 Nov 2019, 11:38

It dawned on me a couple of days ago that there hasn't been an official announcement regarding 2019 South America B or C championships does anyone seen anything as to why they were not held?

This means no XV matches for some countries.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby dwpeate » Wed, 20 Nov 2019, 12:44

Thomas wrote:It dawned on me a couple of days ago that there hasn't been an official announcement regarding 2019 South America B or C championships does anyone seen anything as to why they were not held?

This means no XV matches for some countries.

I too have been asking about this. victorsra said B has been cancelled. Nothing on C either, they're normally done by October :(

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 20 Nov 2019, 12:53

Yes. I asked the Peruvian RU and they said cancelled.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Thomas » Wed, 20 Nov 2019, 12:59

That maybe so, but no official announcement from the governing body.

I checked several sites and all quiet. It opens a whole lot of questions.

Also why the annual Guatemal vs El Salvador not being held? (Herman Arrua Cup)

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 20 Nov 2019, 14:17

My theory is they'll put it in the first semestre and use it as the first phase of the RWC Qualy, as the 2020 Americas Challenge (in the second semestre) will be part of it probably. This means there would be a 2nd division only with teams able to play the RWC? Maybe? Peru, Costa Rica... maybe Guatemala and Venezuela?
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Re: South American rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 17:53

Sudamérica Rugby executives were too busy in Japan to care about Paraguay, Perú or Central America.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 00:08

Sudamerica Rugby probably does the worst "professional" work on communications in the sports industry. Those guys are uncapable of publishing kickoff times or simple proper fixtures, it's incredible.

This time they anounced the U19s South American Championship without the fixtures: http://sudamerica.rugby/espanol/se-jueg ... -3?nid=265

Well, I assume Nov 27th is the semifinals and 30th the finals. And I also assume semifinals are Brazil-Chile and Uruguay-Paraguay.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 20:11

It isn't.

Ist is Uruguay vs Brazil and Chile vs Paraguay.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 17:57

Sudamerica Rugby is hosting its first high performance academy for referees. Great to see as there are few quality Spanish speaking referees.

https://twitter.com/sudamericarugby/sta ... 88289?s=21

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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 19:23

Jaguares just started preseason training. Here’s an idea which would require 100% buy in from Argentina: what if they allow a couple of players from other South American national teams to practice with them for a few months? The players can be told in advance that they won’t be considered but surely a lot of them would be interested in practicing with what is essentially Argentina’s national team.

Of course, if they are inviting 10 or so players that means they would be giving those spots to non-Argentine players and the rest of the union may not like that. And the size of the camp is limited for a reason - only so many people can get practice time. But this would allow players from Uruguay, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, etc. an opportunity which cannot be replicated back home. It would allow them to dedicate a few months’ time exclusively to rugby and would allow them to learn more than they ever could otherwise. These dates can be tied into a Sudamerica Rugby High Performance training like what is happening in Uruguay so that they can get the best of their experience. If it’s easier, coaches can be sent instead of players.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Mon, 25 Nov 2019, 21:26

Wednesday, Nov 27th - U19s South American Championship - @Estadio Charrua, Montevideo, Uruguay

Semifinals
5:30 PM - Chile vs Paraguay
7:30 PM - Uruguay vs Brazil

Champions will qualify to the 2020 WR U20s Trophy and the 3 best to the new 2020 U20s ARC.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 20:56

Live streaming for Chile vs Paraguay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6DUNEXKYrA

Live streaming for Uruguay vs Brazil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPeLSpfi5JY
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Wed, 27 Nov 2019, 22:50

FT - Chile 52-14 Paraguay
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Thu, 28 Nov 2019, 00:15

FT - Uruguay 45-00 Brazil
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Pedro1 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 13:24

It is shocking how we still treat our underage teams. Minimal preparation every year and then we throw them to the wolves expecting a miraculous performance.

The interview with coach Portugal gavr me a bit of hope, as he spoke about not isolating the high performance from club rugby. Let's see if it is just empty words or we actually finally start to build a foundation.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby NaBUru38 » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 19:21

That's quite a margin.

How is access to playing fields? Is it easier in the interior than in big cities like Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Fri, 29 Nov 2019, 19:29

Definitly easier in smaller cities.
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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 01 Dec 2019, 02:12

FT - Brazil 17 - 22 Paraguay - on extra time - 3rd place
FT - Uruguay 29 - 11 Chile - FINAL

Uruguay = champions and qualified to the U20s Trophy
Uruguay, Chile and Paraguay qualified to the U20s ARC
Brazil will play the U20s ARCh
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Re: South American rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 01 Dec 2019, 04:29

victorsra wrote:FT - Brazil 17 - 22 Paraguay - on extra time - 3rd place
FT - Uruguay 29 - 11 Chile - FINAL

Uruguay = champions and qualified to the U20s Trophy
Uruguay, Chile and Paraguay qualified to the U20s ARC
Brazil will play the U20s ARCh


U20s ARC? Is that even a thing? We're broke and so is Canada, donchaknow?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 01 Dec 2019, 13:12

Sudamerica Rugby anounced the SAR U20s as qualify for the U20s ARC, therefore something will be played. I am really interested in what will be in place.

But if it is to have a competition in a single venue I prefere Rugby Europe's model of playoffs with 8 teams. Not because Brazil will be in, but because I hate that bizarre 6-teams-3-rounds model SAR uses for the SA6N. Brazil and Colombia would be leveled with Paraguay anyway.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 01 Dec 2019, 17:47

victorsra wrote:Sudamerica Rugby anounced the SAR U20s as qualify for the U20s ARC, therefore something will be played. I am really interested in what will be in place.

But if it is to have a competition in a single venue I prefere Rugby Europe's model of playoffs with 8 teams. Not because Brazil will be in, but because I hate that bizarre 6-teams-3-rounds model SAR uses for the SA6N. Brazil and Colombia would be leveled with Paraguay anyway.

Brazil is broken too.


Rugby Americas as an organization doesn't publish much, so when they're running events it's almost impossible. When would this be? The U20 6N gives those teams solid prep for the JWC. Guessing this would be after the JWC in the Summer? So, really weird.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby TheStroBro » Sun, 01 Dec 2019, 17:50

victorsra wrote:Sudamerica Rugby anounced the SAR U20s as qualify for the U20s ARC, therefore something will be played. I am really interested in what will be in place.

But if it is to have a competition in a single venue I prefere Rugby Europe's model of playoffs with 8 teams. Not because Brazil will be in, but because I hate that bizarre 6-teams-3-rounds model SAR uses for the SA6N. Brazil and Colombia would be leveled with Paraguay anyway.

Brazil is broken too.


Rugby Americas as an organization doesn't publish much, so when they're running events it's almost impossible. When would this be? The U20 6N gives those teams solid prep for the JWC. Guessing this would be after the JWC in the Summer? So, really weird.

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 01 Dec 2019, 17:52

Total mistery indeed.

But I am praying now for a 8-teams-playoff-single-venue model :lol:
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Re: South American rugby

Postby Tobar » Sun, 01 Dec 2019, 17:55

So what do these unions do to get the u20s ready for the next level? Can they have them train with SLAR franchises?

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Re: South American rugby

Postby victorsra » Sun, 01 Dec 2019, 17:59

In Brazil they all train together.
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