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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 14:53

There is one more version.

These are two gays.
Salisbury is gay capital of GB.
There are 14 gay bars in Salisbury, 3 BDSM swinger club and 4 gay clubs.

In Russia it is not welcome ...
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 14:57

"Novichok" - effective in dry weather.
In the water poison breaks down.

Weather in Salisbury on 2/03/2018.



However if Russian special services are idiots then this is normal.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:03

Why are yours acusing Russia of terrible canning and of ordinary idiocy at same time ?
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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:22

Vova12 wrote:I looked at interview of suspects and i 100% sure that these are employees of special services of Russia.
Im not sure that they poisoned Skripal and his daughter.

We agree. I was not actually saying they worked for Russia, only that they are definitely guilty because their story is nonsense.

If you think they work for Russia, but they did not poison Skripal, then what were they doing in Salisbury?

If it was Russia they made a mistake putting these two men on TV, because their story has confirmed their guilt.

Vova12 wrote:Why did they survive? Why can Kim poison his brother and he after poisoning lives 10 minuts and Skripals walks around the city for several hours?

Okay. They anointed the door handle with poison. The Skripal and daughter go out for a walk.
Why are both poisoned? When you leave the house with your wife do yours both touch the door handle?

Skripal is a traitor and is worthy of death. Why does not he have a security camera on his house and on the street?
Why is not the rat guarded?

A throat on the neck can draw at any film studio ...

For Skripal, it is likely the poison was degraded if it was left on the door overnight.

According to the NY Times, Skripal was considered a "small fish" but after a spy swap he was supposed to go away to live a quiet life, but instead he worked for the British Intelligence Agencies.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:24

Vova12 wrote:There is one more version.

These are two gays.
Salisbury is gay capital of GB.
There are 14 gay bars in Salisbury, 3 BDSM swinger club and 4 gay clubs.

In Russia it is not welcome ...

:lol: Actually Brighton is considered the gay capital of GB. I have never heard Salisbury being referenced in that context, but then I wouldn't know.

Most Brits have never been to Salisbury, that is why this story that two Russians flew to Salisbury to visit the Cathedral sounds particularly strange and not believable.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:27

Now i think that these are two gays. In any case during interview they lied and did not talk.
If they were officers of Russian special services they would have come up with a convincing version.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:36

Vova12 wrote:Why are yours acusing Russia of terrible canning and of ordinary idiocy at same time ?

I think the general perception of Russian operations outside Russia is that it is "old-school", "brutal", "unsophisticated", "reckless", "ham-fisted", "clumsy".

Not particularly cunning, but forceful and reckless to the point of clumsiness rather than being idiotic, no one thinks Russia is stupid.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:37

Okay. I need to restore chronology of events in order to expres my opinion.
I need time.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:40

Bolaroid wrote:
Vova12 wrote:Why are yours acusing Russia of terrible canning and of ordinary idiocy at same time ?

I think the general perception of Russian operations outside Russia is that it is "old-school", "brutal", "unsophisticated", "reckless", "ham-fisted", "clumsy".

Not particularly cunning, but forceful and reckless to the point of clumsiness rather than being idiotic, no one thinks Russia is stupid.

I would have killed Skripal with an acomplice.
I would do it and i would not be caught. And i not a special services officer.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:45

Vova12 wrote:
Bolaroid wrote:
Vova12 wrote:Why are yours acusing Russia of terrible canning and of ordinary idiocy at same time ?

I think the general perception of Russian operations outside Russia is that it is "old-school", "brutal", "unsophisticated", "reckless", "ham-fisted", "clumsy".

Not particularly cunning, but forceful and reckless to the point of clumsiness rather than being idiotic, no one thinks Russia is stupid.

I would have killed Skripal with an acomplice.
I would do it and i would not be caught. And i not a special services officer.

You sound very sure! :shock: Do you not watch crime programs? It is not easy to get away with murder in the West. :)

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:56

I would use two rented cars and accomplice. Has changed clothes to homeless.
I glued a beard and wearing a hood.
And i would not have went with an accomplice!
And i would not come from Russia! And i would not fly to Russia. :twisted:
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Re: Brexit

Postby Bolaroid » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 15:58

Vova12 wrote:I would use two rented cars and accomplice. Has changed clothes to homeless.
I glued a beard and wearing a hood.
And i would not have went with an accomplice!
And i would not come from Russia! And i would not fly to Russia. :twisted:

The Islamic look?? that would get you arrested :lol:

Here is the NY Times article, not saying it is perfectly accurate but some interesting background: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/worl ... oning.html

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 16:01

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 16:03

Timeline of events (all times approximate):

14.40hrs on Saturday 3 March: Yulia arrives at Heathrow Airport on a flight from Russia.

09.15hrs on Sunday, 4 March: Sergei's car is seen in the area of London Road, Churchill Way North and Wilton Road.

13.30hrs: Sergei's car is seen being driven down Devizes Road, towards the town centre.

13:40hrs: Sergei and Yulia arrive in Sainsbury's upper level car park at the Maltings. At some time after this, they go to the Bishops Mill Pub in the town centre.

14.20hrs: They dine at Zizzi Restaurant.

15:35hrs: They leave Zizzi Restaurant.

16.15hrs: Emergency services receive a report from a member of the public and police arrive at the scene within minutes, where they find Sergei and Yulia extremely ill on a park bench near the restaurant.

http://news.met.police.uk/news/ongoing- ... rch-309256
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 16:18

Suspects arrive by train from London at 10.00.
12.00 they are at the refueling Shell near the house Skripals.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 16:22

From Salisbury they left at 15.00.
At 16.45 they were in London.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 16:41

Refueling is located on Wilton Road opposite Montgomery Gardens intersecting Christie Miller Road on which the house of Skripal is located.

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 16:44

From the station to the house of Skripal about 2-2.5 kilometers.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 16:55

Theoretically at 10.30 suspects could be near the house of Skripal.

Excellent! Why was Scotland Yard unable to find out?
When did Skripal and his daughter leave the house or enter the house?
What time were they at home?

Where is this information?
After all they are alive and they can be interogeted!
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 17:10

Okay! Suspected at 10.30 poisoned door handle at home Skripals!
At 11.00 they could be at the train station and leave for London.

Trains run frequently.

https://www.thetrainline.com/train-time ... -to-london

Why did they leave at 15.00? Why did they spend a few hours walking around Salisberry?
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 17:14

Let them answer it now! :twisted:

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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 14 Sep 2018, 03:59

The suspects probably had some semilegal business.
sport pharmacology, anabolic steroids ... etc. and etc. ...

Scotland Yard should check sports clubs, fitness centrs ...
Most likely a visit to Salisbury is due to this.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 14 Sep 2018, 04:08

Why are there so few images from camers?
By the number of surveillanc cameras for each resident of the country British occupy the first place on Europe .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surv ... ed_Kingdom

Maybe British side promulgates only what does not contradikt their version?
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Re: Brexit

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 14 Sep 2018, 04:29

Petrov and Bashirov demonstrated themselves in public.

They certainly have friends ...

Now we need to see a lot of different information about them in Facebook.
If they are officers of special services then it will be impossibl to hide it.
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Re: Brexit

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