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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 09:26

It won't work due to various societal, geopolitical, geoeconomical, and geostrategic reasons.
Both Russia and China practice rabid nationalism with delusions of grandeur as their main domestic regime selling point. China at least could justify a bet for being a superpower based on economic performance. But Russia has economy and society totally in shambles.
Both Russia and China could use the US as a boogeyman for their societies as long as the US doesn't care and doesn't use its power to full extent to crush or at least drastically limit either one.
But the problem starts when the US begins to take China seriously and global rivalry with the US becomes a serious matter, and process of political, economic, and financial decoupling with containment and such taking place while the world splits in half like during the Cold War.
Such environment will first of all force a pick of sides and essentially force Russia to a subservient role to China. That won't sit well with a society that was pumped up by rabid nationalism. It's one thing to imagine Russia as a superpower that pushes back on the US interests everywhere around the globe and it's rather different to see a reality of being pushed around by the Chinese interests like a vassal state. Russian will also see it clear as a day that the US takes China seriously while Russia is just a minor annoyance.
It won't sit well with Russian elites either. Russian elites don't send their kids to study to the Beijing Polytechnic, they send them to Harvard, Yale, or Cambridge. Russian elites don't buy condos in Shenzhen or Shanghai, they buy condos in Miami, London, or New York. They don't park their yachts in Macau, they park yachts at the French Riviera. They don't keep money even in Hong Kong, they keep money in Switzerland, Cyprus, or London. When access to all that wealth will be threatened by a geopolitical wall it will strike really close to home at least for some.
If rivalry between China and the US gets really serious and into a split of the financial systems or even military confrontation then Chinese access to raw imports will be threatened. China doesn't have a force projection focused blue water navy or military experience to secure interests by force in key locations beyond the first island chain be it the Strait of Malacca or the Strait of Hormuz while the US could block or at least harass those choke points relatively easily while employing diplomacy or even coercion with resource-rich nations to limit supply. But China has a rather substantial land-based army while Siberia next door is rich in resources, low on population, etc. Still Russia has a problem extracting those resources without western technologies and expects payments in a hard western currency. Get that geostrategic map with existential time-bound pressures and military options even with nuclear potential suddenly come to the table. Will Russia cede Siberia and wealth from extraction of those resources to China in such a case peacefully? Especially when resource-extraction due to time constraints will essentially mean military construction. I doubt it and it won't fly well with rabid nationalism. That's essentially a point in history when two rabidly nationalistic countries have a breakdown in relations and fight a war even if they tried to be allies.
And you must be pretty damn sure that in such a tense game when the stakes are existential and global, the US won't just sit back and wait while Russia and China try to solve this conundrum. Every wedge will be hammered, every contradiction amplified both inside two societies and internationally, consequences be damned. Reverse-Nixon to Russia will be on the table, etc.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 09:38

In Russia nationalism of any particular nation (Russian) is not cultivated, otherwise borders of Russia would now be size of Moscow region. Russia is a country for all citizens with its own purpose different from western one.
Russian nationalism that is not popular. It is usually associated with idea of ​​European racist groups. White Brotherhood, etc, etc. It is very similar to Ukrainian one with same roots, they even fight together against Russians in Donbass! Pan-European white identity is stronger than pan-Russian! This is lot of marginalized.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 09:47

Сlash between China and Russia is much less likely than US and China, because this is a matter of world domination. I see no reason why Russians and Chinese would kill each other to joy of US.

Russian elite that holds money and educates children in West ...
Do not confuse elite with whores. Russian elite has ensured country independence and economic development over past two decades, and whores live in West with money stolen from people.
Russia and West now have different values, but this does not mean that whore not can integrate normally in London or NY ...
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Postby Vova12 » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 16:21

I own a piece of land and a house in most depressed region of Russia - Tver region.
Several times a month i go there. As uprising against Putin begins, i will inform in a separate message ... :D
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Postby Vova12 » Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 16:31



Vyshny Volochek / Tver Oblast / Vyshnevolotsky District
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 15:27

Like any destructive movement "Russian nationalists" are supported by West.
For example it is actively promoted by "Russian" service of Radio Liberty.

https://www.svoboda.org/a/30249706.html

Because European or American "white brother" is his ally and not Russian citizen of Russia his enemy.
Therefore part of this rubish is fighting against Russian militia along with same assholes from Ukraine.

https://www.thenation.com/article/neo-n ... t-ukraine/

Your will be surprised but CIA Liberty radio is now promoting Communists! :lol:

https://www.svoboda.org/a/29443441.html
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 15:31

They consider themselves white gentlemen and have a pagan, usually Scandinavian, ideology.
Vikings, Thor and Valhalla..... These are mostly stupid and iliterate assholes. 8-)
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 15:37

Unique In The World! Russian State TV Broadcasts Programs In Russia's 54 Minority Languages

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 15:40

Therefore there can be no understanding with EU where prohibition of Russian language takes place.
We just have different values.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 17:13

I wrote Russians are "Indians". There is no sense of solidarity with other Europeans. In appearance we look much more like Europeans than many members of EU but our heads are completely different ...
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Re: Immigration

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 07:53

This is just beginning. All fun is ahead!

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/0 ... story.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-p ... SKBN1ZE2J4

Thousands of books have been written on this subject and as many more will be written. But still i will try to write briefly how see it.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 16:13

Russia is at war with the West. It uses propaganda, economic coercion, military sabre-rattling, extraterritorial killings and diplomatic pressure to systematically undermine the rules-based international order. It also wages “lawfare”, abusing international legal co-operation and law-enforcement institutions.


Andrew Foxall is the director of the Russia and Eurasia Studies Centre at the Henry Jackson Society

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russ ... -svx5r5g8j
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 16:33

I probably overestimated my strength, this is a gigantic amount of information. Therefore will focus on some points of this story.After the end of IWW , in Europe there was another outcast - Germany. Gigantic reparations were imposed on it,country lost territories in West and East.

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Russia was a country with a ruined economy, taking avantage of outbreak of civil war Poland, Romania, Estonia seized some territories.
Blockade and economic sanctions were introduced against USSR.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 16:40

This brought together interests of USSR and Germany, and in 1922 Rappals Treaty was signed.Including military cooperation.Cooperation continued until Hitler came to power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Rapallo_(1922)
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 16:57

Hitler banned Communist Party after which cooperation was completed. Everyone in Europe read Mine Kampf and knew about Hitler intentions. But no one knew how far he could go , big game has begun.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 17:11

By the way Stalin was sure of inevitability of a new world war.
In 1931 Stalin said the words: “We are 50-100 years behind advanced countries. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it or they crush us. ”

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 17 Jan 2020, 17:26

I would like to note that Russian imperial army was not able to carry out a singl major successful operation against Germany in I World War, only against Austria-Hungary. Germany held a third of its forces on Eastern Front and two thirds in West.
After 1933 everyone had to take care of their own security on ther own. Small countries had a paticularly bad time, nobody was going to take into account their interests ...
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 09:19

At end of 1933 Hitler left League of Nations.In 1935 after plebiscite Saar was returned. . In March 1935 Hitler announces breakdown of Treaty of Versailles and creation of a regular army Wehrmacht, including Luftwaffe.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 09:25

Hitlers actions led to conclusion of a military alliance between USSR and France in May 1935. In addition a similar treaty was concluded between USSR and Czechoslovakia.
France at that time had strongest army in Europe.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 09:27

A similar treaty was proposed by USSR to Romania, Turkey and Latvia, but no treaties were concluded.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 09:32

In June 1935 Britain entered into a Мaritime treaty with Germany. In fact Great Britain recognized cancellation of terms of Treaty of Versailles.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 09:36

In 1936 Wehrmacht entered demilitarized Rhine region.
In same year Berlin-Rome axis was created. Between Germany and Japan signed "anti Commintern pact" directed against USSR.
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Postby Vova12 » Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 09:47

In March 1938 Austria was annexed to Reich.Then fun begins. Reich makes territorial demands on Czechoslovakia .
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