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Re: Immigration

Postby STMKY » Mon, 17 Jun 2019, 18:12

That is why Russians after the worst war in history do not consider the Germans as our enemies. We understand who really stood behind Hitler. And simple Germans, many of which are just like us, R1A were just pawns.

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Re: Immigration

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 07:36

Vova12 wrote:I would like to argue, example of Bloody Mary Tudor suggests other wise.


The perfect example. She tried to turn the country back to catholicism, so she got a nickname. Henry VIII. founded the Anglican church, therefore he can't get a bad nickname, as it would mean that your church was founded by a crazy mass murderer. So the question is, why he didn't get a nickname from elsewhere, and that is a good question indeed. Maybe it is true, that British nobility likes to give away nicknames to foreign people.

Same probably goes for Ivan and Russia. He is an historic statesmen of Russia, therefore he can't have a bad nickname in Russia itself. Still a crazy sadistic mass murderer as well he is.

STMKY wrote:That is why Russians after the worst war in history do not consider the Germans as our enemies. We understand who really stood behind Hitler. And simple Germans, many of which are just like us, R1A were just pawns.


I was interested in your post until the last words, were you come up with the R1A bullshit again. Nobody knew until recently which DNA you've got. Nobody had an agenda with that. All the high nobility in Europe (including Russia) was so closely related, that they produced a lot of disabled kids because of this. This conspiracy theory of yours is nonsense. >

The starting theory of the video is bullshit. Russia was always part of the European social-hemisphere and not an "independent world system". Especially in the years from the 16th century onwards. Why do you think Napoleon invaded it, why do you think Peter the Great (Vova take notice :D )travelled through Europe before he became Tsar and also got a lot of expertise from Western Europe. Russia was never isolated in its history from Europe.
After that start the video gets even worse. Off course the Ukraine is a country stuck in a battle for power. Russia took a part of it (back), after the Ukraine chose to move away from Russia. I can understand the Russian standpoint why they did it, but no need for a conspiracy crisis. You should ask yourself one question: why do people in many parts of the world think that the USA is the better option than Russia. If you can answer that, your conspiracy theories dwindle (some might still be valid, but not those you posted here).
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Re: Immigration

Postby STMKY » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 08:32

Are there still people in the world who consider the USA to be a paradise on earth and carriers of freedom? I feel the whole world is waiting for this Anglo-Saxon monster to collapse. Do not you notice how they are pricked in the ass around the world. So far, with small needles, but this process has been going on for the past few years and is growing.

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Re: Immigration

Postby STMKY » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 08:34

It would be interesting to read the thoughts of the Celtic people about the Anglo-Saxons. They can tell us a lot. But knowing what kind of total control is in the West, they may be wary of writing it.

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Re: Immigration

Postby RugbyLiebe » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 09:17

STMKY wrote:It would be interesting to read the thoughts of the Celtic people about the Anglo-Saxons. They can tell us a lot. But knowing what kind of total control is in the West, they may be wary of writing it.


According to your logic, they are R1B. They should be fine, right? You can't cherry-pick. Your R1A theory is flawed.

STMKY wrote:Are there still people in the world who consider the USA to be a paradise on earth and carriers of freedom? I feel the whole world is waiting for this Anglo-Saxon monster to collapse. Do not you notice how they are pricked in the ass around the world. So far, with small needles, but this process has been going on for the past few years and is growing.


That's not the point. The point is, when your choices are Russia or the USA (or god-forsake China), most will still go with the USA.
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Re: Immigration

Postby STMKY » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 10:49

A terrible tragedy took place with the Celts. It is very likely that the Anglo-Saxons killed all the Celtic men. That is why they have R1B. Celtic women were able to maintain the Celtic identity, but the language was almost lost. Unlike the Hungarians. They have a similar situation, but they have kept their language.

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 18:50

Deliveries of Russian amphibious aircraft Be - 200 to US (Seaplane Global Air Services) will begin in 2020–21.
This will probably help to avoid destructive fires.

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Re: Immigration

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 19:11

RugbyLiebe wrote:
The perfect example. She tried to turn the country back to catholicism, so she got a nickname. Henry VIII. founded the Anglican church, therefore he can't get a bad nickname, as it would mean that your church was founded by a crazy mass murderer. So the question is, why he didn't get a nickname from elsewhere, and that is a good question indeed. Maybe it is true, that British nobility likes to give away nicknames to foreign people.

Same probably goes for Ivan and Russia. He is an historic statesmen of Russia, therefore he can't have a bad nickname in Russia itself. Still a crazy sadistic mass murderer as well he is.


Under Ivan there was a strugle between centralizd power and feudal lords. All victims were associated with this.
The feudal lord could leave with his land for example under rule of Lithuania. It is clear that Ivan could not like it.
Under Ivan Russia increased by 2 times, 155 cities and fortress were built, creation of first regular army in Russia, first Zemsky Sobor ( system of representative democracy), judicial reform, school education were introduced ...

And in Europe issued these leaflets during Livonian War ...

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 19:21

RugbyLiebe wrote:
The starting theory of the video is bullshit. Russia was always part of the European social-hemisphere and not an "independent world system". Especially in the years from the 16th century onwards. Why do you think Napoleon invaded it, why do you think Peter the Great (Vova take notice :D )travelled through Europe before he became Tsar and also got a lot of expertise from Western Europe. Russia was never isolated in its history from Europe.

Peters reforms are same as in 19 century Japan (Meiji Revolution).
Realizing their backwardness to take all best (science first) from Europe in order to survive and not become a colony!

This allowed Peter to defeat Charles XII and continue to participate in European concert ...

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 19:26

RugbyLiebe wrote:You should ask yourself one question: why do people in many parts of the world think that the USA is the better option than Russia.

I think thanks to occupation forces of US in first place ... :D
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 19:42

Regarding world domination of Russia ...
For this there is only a weapon. Economy is too small for this, besides Russians have no ideology of superiority over other nations.
At least over Germans or Anglo-Saxons for sure ... 8-)
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 19:48

Maximum that Russians claimed was leadership of world working class!
Russia - is a classic spoiler. We will spoil world domination to all countries that achieve this. :D
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 18:36

But if there is no ideology our Western friends are always ready to help Russians!

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... i-will.htm
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 19:08

No, Section 230 Does Not Require Platforms to Be “Neutral”

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/n ... be-neutral
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 21 Jun 2019, 03:14

About Meiji Japanese Reforms was film "The Last Samurai" with Tom Cruise.
Before their eyes was an example of China and they did not want to repeat it.

Peters reforms are same.
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Re: Immigration

Postby 4N » Fri, 21 Jun 2019, 03:32

Vova12 wrote:About Meiji Japanese Reforms was film "The Last Samurai" with Tom Cruise.
Before their eyes was an example of China and they did not want to repeat it.

Peters reforms are same.


Great film. Seen in a number of times.

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 21 Jun 2019, 18:08

Bolton Argues War With Iran Only Way To Avenge Americans Killed In Upcoming War With Iran :lol:

https://www.theonion.com/bolton-argues- ... lMarketing
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Fri, 21 Jun 2019, 18:12

4N wrote:
Vova12 wrote:About Meiji Japanese Reforms was film "The Last Samurai" with Tom Cruise.
Before their eyes was an example of China and they did not want to repeat it.

Peters reforms are same.


Great film. Seen in a number of times.

My favorite movie is "Big Lebowski"!
In general i love Jeff Bridges very much!
"True Grit" is great too! 8-)
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 14:46

In Russia today is Day of Sorrow,

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and my anniversary!

I am 50 years old ! I will not mark, just sit with family at table. I do not drink, what to celebrate? :D I remember 25 years old, perfectly celebrated! 8-)

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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Sun, 23 Jun 2019, 13:48

Scottish school. Our days.

https://twitter.com/russiaspeaks/status ... 7832189952

Religion imposes restrictions on a person. Do not kill, do not steal, do not lie ...
Any religion. Its like a constitution for a country. People may invent new laws, but Constitution is sacred and un changed.
Religion gives you a Law that cannot be changed. You eithcer accept these laws or not.

If you are an ateist then you can do anything. There are no bans.
You can recognize pedophilia legal or allow cannibalism .... Anything.
As in a country without a Constitution.

This Scottish guy is telling truth, truth !There are only two sexes! Man and woman! It can not be changed!

And if people accept laws that sexes are much more it does not change anything.

This is just a law invented by people ...
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Re: Immigration

Postby rey200 » Mon, 24 Jun 2019, 07:03

Vova12 wrote:Bolton Argues War With Iran Only Way To Avenge Americans Killed In Upcoming War With Iran :lol:

https://www.theonion.com/bolton-argues- ... lMarketing


Someone has to point it out: it is satire!
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Re: Immigration

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 24 Jun 2019, 09:23

STMKY wrote:A terrible tragedy took place with the Celts. It is very likely that the Anglo-Saxons killed all the Celtic men. That is why they have R1B. Celtic women were able to maintain the Celtic identity, but the language was almost lost. Unlike the Hungarians. They have a similar situation, but they have kept their language.


It is more likely, that the theory is simply bullshit. What kind of organizational skills do you need to have to kill off the full male population? Do you really think that this could have worked in a state of chaos after the Romans left (somebody who would have the most orga skills at that time in Europe and still wouldn't be capable to do sth. like that). Definitely not some loosely organized German tribes like the Angles and the Saxons. Also Ireland was not the country you think it was back then. It was one of the earliest Christian countries in Europe taking over Christianity and even sent out missionaries to what we call today Germany and their scholars were well represented at Franconian courts. They are known until today for one of the longest periods of ancient Christian teaching through monastery schools up until the long chaos the ongoing Viking raids brought. After that when the Anglo-Normans came in the 12th century they couldn't even get full control of the island up as late as the 17th century.

To even think that whiping out all of the male population, in this circumstances, could have even been possible is only to justify a illogical theory. An interesting one, but if you really think about it, a stupid one.

Vova12 wrote:I am 50 years old ! I will not mark, just sit with family at table.


Happy belated birthday! Hope you had a great day.
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Re: Immigration

Postby RugbyLiebe » Mon, 24 Jun 2019, 10:03

Nice find, I'm surprised how easy this is to read even 500 years later

Vova12 wrote:And in Europe issued these leaflets during Livonian War ...

]http://zaist.ru/upload/medialibrary/575/5758342d3050424315395094768ce1ad.jpg


This you can find here:
https://books.google.de/books?id=-qMqiS ... &q&f=false

This is about that prisoners who were men, women, virgins and little children were killed.
"The mercenary he let go, if they swear that they never fight for Lyfland again. The adult Lyflanders he sents to Moskow, where they are imprisonend and only get a Met and a piece of bread to eat. The horrors girls and women go through are so big, that you shouldn't write nor talk about it. The Little children he gets are beaten to death and sometimes nailed on a tree and then shot.

Later the author goes on to described that they had some raped women also bind on a tree. And then honoured the archer who hit the "target of their private parts".

Not on expert on this kind of war and if this was the norm. This letter/flyer sounds quite authentic to be honest.


Vova12 wrote:http://chronologia.org/seven1/im/1k-6-056.jpg


That is the full "flyer". The book apparently is part of the state library in Munich.
https://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/d ... 00003.html

Interesting read. But I would clearly state this as propaganda as the details are nearly non-existent.
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Re: Immigration

Postby Vova12 » Mon, 24 Jun 2019, 19:07

In Russia it was not customary to just kill captured soldiers and civilians. Civilians were resetled in Russia, since Europeans owned many crafts that they did not know in Russia.
But of course there were exceses.

In Battle of Fraustadt battle Swede killed all captured Russian soldiers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fraustadt

After battle of Poltava Peter I did not kill a single one.
They were sent to Russia and given freedom.
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